Cult Classics That Suck
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I knew someone would say this!incal11 said:
Yeah but, just because it has a lot of good ideas in one game does not make it automatically good unless the ideas are executed well together. And comparing it to today's standards, they are really not. Absolutely every aspect of the game feels clunky, unintuitive, unsatisfying or a combination of the three. At least it did to me.
If you like it, okay great, lucky you. I wish I could have liked it, I did buy it on Steam afterall and its now another game I'm never going to touch again.
But ask yourself, if Deus Ex was never released back in 2000, and instead came out TODAY (with current gen graphics and all that jazz, but the exact SAME gameplay as you know from the game) would it be well received, or even seen as a cult classic and remembered 10 years from now? I'm going to be honest and say I think it would get 5/10 scores pretty much universally and generally be seen as a mess of a game by the gaming community at large.
The Rocky Horror Picture Show would be my pick as well. I mean, if you just sit down and watch it, by yourself, it's hard to recommend.Pararaptor said:
However, one should clarify, what people have made out of Rocky Horror Picture Show is awesome. Get a bunch of people together with an excuse to dress in drag, and you've got yourself something cool.
On the contrary, I find most SNES RPGs gobsmackingly boring, including Chrono Trigger, Breath of Fire... to the point where I feel absolutely no drive to continue playing them whatsoever. Earthbound and Super Mario RPG are games that captivate me, however. They feel like they have a lot more soul, while other RPGs feel hollow and devoid of character in comparison.PopeJewish said:
As much as i hate to admit it, System Shock 1/2 were nether my thing and everyone i know just raves how they paved the way for this and all that rah rah rah. You know what its like
But age has little to do with it. FF7 could be 100 years old and not be a cult classic since it is/was the epitome of a commercial and critical success. There are a lot of people that don't like it but it is undeniable that it is massively popular and therefore doesn't fit the cult criteria.Aylaine said:
Totally agree... I hate that game more than any other. (Even if it isn't a cult classic, I still hate it.)Julianking93 said:
AverageJoe said:
I only played it last year and found it amazing, poor graphics yeah, clunky gameplay, some terrible voice acting, but it gives you the choice.., you can change the story, you can kill everyone, you can go all stealth, and I found the cyberpunk plot a bit over the top but very imaginative and curious, with some intriguing questions. I really felt bad about killing people in the game. Mass effect 2 seems completely bland compared to it.
I'd have to say Fallout 3 because it's just an ugly Oblivion with guns and a rubbish ending. ICO because it's all style and no substance, and every Metal Gear game since the one on Playstation 1 because they are so long winded with pompous, overly long storytelling and until the PS3 game they all had awful controls. I know most of these games are kinda new but are often (incorrectly) referred to as classics.... I feel better now.
deus ex is still awesome
if it would come out today it wouldn't only have updated graphics but also different gameplay
and yes, i recently played it and of course it doen't hold up to todays standarts in many ways but thats what you have modders for
c&c sucked, every incarnation from top to bottom
if it would come out today it wouldn't only have updated graphics but also different gameplay
and yes, i recently played it and of course it doen't hold up to todays standarts in many ways but thats what you have modders for
c&c sucked, every incarnation from top to bottom
Torment pissed me off as well, I have to admit. While it did have some interesting dialogue and backstory, 70% of it was just verbal diarrhea. Also, here's a scenario. I walk around in town, in an alley, some thieves show up and ask me for my money, I answer "No", they attack me, I kill them. Suddenly this whole part of town is aggressive and attacks me on sight forever. I look this part up online for the first time. I see this: If you agree and give the thieves your money the area is friendly and you can do a massive number of quests in there before finally killing them all. These quests give you the necessary experience to move further into some dungeon. Well, fuck that I think, I'll just skip to the dungeon. I go there and get INSTARAPED. Ok, so what can I do to advance my character now? Nothing. I'm fucked. Ok, granted, Torment had probably the most options to approach a situation than any other RPG, but what's the point when some of them break the game? And not some obscure ones, but the NATURAL thing one would do, that is to refuse being robbed by thieves? I uninstalled the game right there, not for me.Eponet said:
I made another post after that one explaining a little furtherseditary said:
Yeah, agreed. So, the game is clunky, and it looks terrible and sounds terrible too (not that those last two really matter or are anything to do with my opinion of the game personally), but it's good because... you can change things? and there are choices? You can change things in a lot of games these days, perhaps not to the extent that things can be changed in Deus Ex (I wouldn't know, I didn't subject myself through enough of the game to really be able to argue that at this point) and many games now have choices which effect the way the game plays out... But even disregarding all that and saying that Deus Ex does indeed succeed in this area even by today's standards, the game still plays terribly, and is an unintuitive and clunky mess, so how is it a good game?ilion said:
Holy SHEEEEEEUT!The Rockerfly said:
You have just become rather awesome!
I got told to watch this by my brother and dad, because it was apparently 'a cult classic', and I watched, finished, and thought 'Well, that was total shit.'
Now, for my 'cult classic', I'm going to have to say it, and I may die form the sheer amount of flaming, but:
SYSTEM SHOCK
Now, if you will excuse me, I must go and prepare my funeral.
For one, XIII is nowhere near a cult classic. Having played it on the PC, I loved it, despite its quite poor gameplay which it made up for by giving me a story that was bloody compelling. Pity it wasn't a commercial success, the game set up a sequel PERFECTLY with a cliffhanger ending.Altorin said: