Ignore the fanboism in the comments section. You know how fanboys are. Give their "perfect game" a low score and they'll go apeshit on you.
Erm.. no, Killzone is not as viable to get the same scores as Halo CE.Psychosocial said:Superb gameplay and awesome graphics are NOT enough for a 10/10 if that's what you are implying.Mazty said:Exactly. CoD4 didn't get slated for not having co-op, something no one can deny would have made it an even more enjoyable game.Eipok Kruden said:Really? I never once saw a review site take points off Bioshock or Call of Duty 4 because they didn't have co-op. You shouldn't deduct points for what isn't there.oliveira8 said:I think giving negative score for something that aint there but should is logic. Sorry but those comments are pure gold!
That's where a lot of K2 reviews are going off the track and instead mark it down for not being perfect (as in not having everything including the kitchen sink) instead of giving it a score in comparison to what's on the market at the moment.
With almost all the reviews saying that the graphics are stunning, and the gameplay both on and offline is superb, surely a game with that kind of praise should be getting a good score all around.
It doesn't seem to make much sense to drop a game's score by a fair amount because of essentially nit-picking, not particularly good reviewing in my opinion.
A game worthy 10/10 needs to actually bring something new, Killzone 2 is as much of a candidate for a 10/10 as Halo CE was.
It's all been done before, what a game worthy a 10/10 needs is something extravagant. It should bring something new to gaming, be original at the very least.
But hey, 87/100 is almost 90/100 and that could be seen as 9/10, which is a great score. You should also read the previous comments, as someone already mentioned, Call of Duty 4 was before this co-op mania started.
So long story short, people demand and expect way too much.PedroSteckecilo said:I think alot of PS3 "Fanboys" are annoyed that Halo gets a universal 10/10 BEST GAME EVAR! ALWAYS! NO QUESTIONS! for free, where as Sony Titles are always scrutinized to the nth degree. I suppose it's a fair criticism, but Sony is also usually late to the party, with Killzone 2 feeling a hell of a lot like an Ultra Polished Sci-Fi Version of Call of Duty 4 rather than the great heir to a beloved series (Halo 3) or as a strikingly original product that will reshape the way we see gaming.
This has given me a idea, I am going to create a still title, and ship it as that. They can't review what's not there.oliveira8 said:Haha fanboys.
"How can you give a game negative marks for not having co-op!!!!! You can only review that content that's there. It's like someone reviewing mario and then deducting points for it not having machine guns!!!
I just hope your score was based on what you played, and not on what you didn't play"
I think giving negative score for something that aint there but should is logic.
Sorry but those comments are pure gold!
Whoa Whoa are we talking about the halo series?PedroSteckecilo said:Um... since when is 8.7 a bad score?
Personally I'd give it about an 8.5, mostly due to the shit tastic story, annoying squad AI and lack of variety in the levels.
Oh but reading is so last generation my friend, we watch. http://screwattack.com/HardNews/011409Mazty said:I heard that the only reason they didn't make a co-op was time, and that it may come out in a patch later on. But that was through word of mouth, though I'd be really interested to read the source you got that from.ChromeAlchemist said:KZ2 was pretty much built for co-op. Perhaps they shouldn't have deducted points considering it was hardware issues that prevented them from including co-op, but either way it was originally meant to include co-op and perhaps the gameplay reflected that.
Name one time when ScrewAttack have made up news.Indigo_Dingo said:And Screwattack know precisely jack shit.ChromeAlchemist said:Oh but reading is so last generation my friend, we watch. http://screwattack.com/HardNews/011409Mazty said:I heard that the only reason they didn't make a co-op was time, and that it may come out in a patch later on. But that was through word of mouth, though I'd be really interested to read the source you got that from.ChromeAlchemist said:KZ2 was pretty much built for co-op. Perhaps they shouldn't have deducted points considering it was hardware issues that prevented them from including co-op, but either way it was originally meant to include co-op and perhaps the gameplay reflected that.
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They don't have anything because they want to make something unique and engaging, and didn't have the time.
Care to show me a link, or how you came about this information?Indigo_Dingo said:And my news is direct from Steven ter Heides. He knows more about his own game.ChromeAlchemist said:Name one time when ScrewAttack have made up news.Indigo_Dingo said:And Screwattack know precisely jack shit.ChromeAlchemist said:Oh but reading is so last generation my friend, we watch. http://screwattack.com/HardNews/011409Mazty said:I heard that the only reason they didn't make a co-op was time, and that it may come out in a patch later on. But that was through word of mouth, though I'd be really interested to read the source you got that from.ChromeAlchemist said:KZ2 was pretty much built for co-op. Perhaps they shouldn't have deducted points considering it was hardware issues that prevented them from including co-op, but either way it was originally meant to include co-op and perhaps the gameplay reflected that.
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They don't have anything because they want to make something unique and engaging, and didn't have the time.
And so far, Matzy has told me his source was from word of mouth, and mine is right here. I don't usually use them for news reports, but I have noticed that much of the news I have seen there I have seen everywhere else.
Spoken like a true fanboy...Mazty said:To give it a whole point lower than Halo 3, an utterly bland, unoriginal game, the reviewers seem to be working entirely on personal opinion rather than approaching all the games from the same view, making the score system entirely pointless. The reviewer for Halo 3 blatantly is a Halo fanboy, unable to seperate his love for the game to give a good review. Whereas the reviewer for K2 is comparing it to perfection & not other games on the market. Having a point system which varies reviwer to reviewer is pointless as comparing scores then means nothing.
Link? Can't find it for the life of me...Indigo_Dingo said:IGN sponsored pre-release event. Saturday the 21st of February. Seems versus is.ChromeAlchemist said:Care to show me a link, or how you came about this information?Indigo_Dingo said:And my news is direct from Steven ter Heides. He knows more about his own game.ChromeAlchemist said:Name one time when ScrewAttack have made up news.Indigo_Dingo said:And Screwattack know precisely jack shit.ChromeAlchemist said:Oh but reading is so last generation my friend, we watch. http://screwattack.com/HardNews/011409Mazty said:I heard that the only reason they didn't make a co-op was time, and that it may come out in a patch later on. But that was through word of mouth, though I'd be really interested to read the source you got that from.ChromeAlchemist said:KZ2 was pretty much built for co-op. Perhaps they shouldn't have deducted points considering it was hardware issues that prevented them from including co-op, but either way it was originally meant to include co-op and perhaps the gameplay reflected that.
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They don't have anything because they want to make something unique and engaging, and didn't have the time.
And so far, Matzy has told me his source was from word of mouth, and mine is right here. I don't usually use them for news reports, but I have noticed that much of the news I have seen there I have seen everywhere else.
By the way it seems the link's source was the director of Guerilla games, why exactly would he lie about something like this?
Its not wrong - its subjective - if you wish to beleive Killzone 2 is the best FPS this gen then beleive that - I'm not stopping you. But claiming reviwers are biased against it because it didn't score a 10 is ridiculous - its a good game, but I disagree with your views.Mazty said:It's only fanboy nonsense when you can show how its wrong/illogical. If you compare the two reviews, it's somewhat worrying that both reviewers are working for the same magazine as one is very critical, whereas the other can't seperate his love for a series and being as objective as possible.
Having played both titles, I think that I can be pretty certain in saying the Killzone 2 does a lot more original things and is a considerably better title (in respect to other games around the release dates of each game).
So because a reviewer does not conform to your ideal review, he is automatically a fanboy...you sound like a literate version of those posting on the x-play forums after their review of Killzone 2.The reviewer for Halo 3 blatantly is a Halo fanboy