CVG reveiws killzone 2

[GloatingSwine]

Who says it should be?

Quite frankly, co-operative gaming is now so ingrained in the genetics of shooters that it is much rarer for a game not to have it than to have it. The only other major shooters of the last few years that have no co-op are Call of Duty and F.E.A.R. 2, and the latter is a horror game and has the time slow mechanic which would both be incompatible with co-op gaming.

If Killzone 2 had co-op, it's value to me would increase massively, because it would probably convince my regular co-op buddy to pick up a PS3, and I would play it that way, probably to the exclusion of playing it solo, which I have done with every other co-op shooter for the last few years.

 

[keptsimple]

Funny comments:

"Marked down for no co-op? What the ****!? Did Halo 3 have co-op? NO"

"How can you give a game negative marks for not having co-op!!!!! You can only review that content that's there. It's like someone reviewing mario and then deducting points for it not having machine guns!!!"

 

[keptsimple]

(CoD4 never got scored down due to lack of co-op).

Christ. Will people stop saying this? COD4 was routinely criticized for its lack of co-op when it was released. I found this in an IGN review after literally 30 seconds of searching on google:

"The single-player isn't perfect. For starters, it's single-player. Co-op gameplay in shooters is quickly becoming the standard. Considering you spend almost the entire campaign with the same squadmates, the hope (and even expectation) for online co-op is not unwarranted."

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/832/832599p2.html

IGN is perhaps the most mainstream of mainstream critics, and even they criticized the sainted COD4 for its lack of co-op.

 

[sms_117b]

That as a whole didn't seem to bad a review. I don't and most of my friends don't care about co-op mode, what's the point? all you want to do during it is kill each other anyway

 

[keptsimple]

Yet COD4 wasn't scored down massively for it, and surely it should be quality of the game over the quantity of features, yet that doesn't seem to be the case e.g. Halo 3. The CVG review seems to put far too much importance on co-op. Frankly a good online multiplayer can easily make up for it, something I'm told it has, with an emphasis on teamwork.

It seems a little odd to me that a squad-based FPS released in 2009 wouldn't have co-op. Not a huge deal. But regardless, CVG couldn't have deducted too many points if they gave it an 8.7.

KZ2 looks like a good game, but too many people are turning the game's reviews into a referendum on the PS3. Geez, as good as the game may be, it's still an FPS. The game is designed to be a huge seller, not an innovative risk-taker. That's bound to turn off a handful of reviewers at least a little bit.

 

[BenMcMichael]

ive played and completed it today it is a great game, imo the best exclusive on ps3 and best fps out there

 

[RAKais]

Strangely, it doesn't make the little Master Chief in me hurt when I say Killzone 2 looks goddamn spectacular but there has been plenty of games that have looked amazing and havn't got perfect reviews in the end. I think PS3 fans should cool off a little, take a look at why it didnt get a perfect score and theyll see that it has nothing to do with its amazing graphics or gameplay. Iv heard lack of developed story and coop around, thats a fair thing to mark a game down. Visuals arnt everything.

For me, as an xbox 360 owner, Chronicles of Riddick: Assualt on Dark Athena and Aliens: Colonial Marines are the games I'm wetting myself over. Even if they get low scores I'm still getting them because thats a true definition of a fanboy, one who buys their favourite game despite reviews. Not the flameboys who foam at the mouth when their favourite games don't get the God of Games label stuck to it.

 

[Inverse Skies]

I'm interested in getting it. I'll have to buy a wireless adaptor for my ps3 though which will be a pain (rent money? nah that's not important). I have Kingdom Hearts to finish first though... and uni goes back soon. Sigh. Too many things on. But I'll judge if the score given was fair when I get the game, and not before.

 

[Clashero]

Once again, I bring out my definitive counter argument for things of this sort.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MarkMatthewz?gl=AU&hl=en-GB

I point you towards some of the comments on this account, from a subtly named gent called "ps3lover008".

queer

******

And my personal favourite;

fuck you you fucking gayass piece of shit ps3 and wii own you can go wipe your douche with your 360

I get the impression fanboys are rather like fascists and communists - opposites, but yet, exactly the same...

You can be a fascist communist. Fascism refers to lack of political and social freedom, communism is lack of economic freedom. Stalin was very authoritarian (not quite a Mussolini-style fascist, though) AND a communist, but I digress.
Yes, PS3 fanboys are really getting on my nerves. 8,7 is a bloody amazing score, specially when they say it's "spectacular from start to finish". If someone said that about my game I'd be crying tears of joy.

 

[the no name man]

Am I the only one old-fashioned enough to think that 8.7 is a bloody good score?
Since when does a game need 11 out of 10 from every reviewer to be worth playing?
I wish someone would dissect a fanboys' brain, so we can see how their brain is wired.

8.7 is a good score and those super fan-boys should read the whole review before getting mad. I cant wait to play this

 

[quack35]

I don't have a problem with fan boys, unless they're COMPLETELY UNREASONABLE.

 

[PhoenixFlame]

Part of this is the desperation with which fanboyism seeks to justify flaws or any kind of "fair and balanced" review of a game. This desperation grows as the market turns downward against whatever they're a fanboy of.

I'm a PS3 owner, and even I can tell that the PS3's titles this past year, with the exception of Metal Gear Solid and possibly Little Big Planet, are underachievers. They've sold decently but nowhere near the amount that should have been sold. As a result, Sony fans have takena beating over tons of media articles and tons of bloggish opinion that the PS3, compared to the other two consoles and with its enormously large price point, has not done as well as the 360 or the Wii.

I want the PS3 to succeed, and I think KZ2 is going to be a great hit that will help revitalize the system. With a price drop or a bundling down the line, the PS3 has a good chance of gaining a bit of ground while still remaining steady as the most technologically heavy of the 3 consoles. But I'm not beyond understanding nothing is perfect, either.

I encounter fanboys every day, and they are just as difficult if not harder to moderate than straight up trolls. But they are just as bad due to a simple lack of reason.

 

[johnman]

Fanboy quote:
"You absolute M$ loving slags. If this was on that broken piece of trash masquerading as a console with it's last hope being the pointless Alan Lakes, you'd give this undeniable perfection of a game 12/10. And it is undeniably perfect, even though it's a shooter, and I hate shooters, but it's on my beloved PS3 so that's different, isn't it, my precious?"

At the end there it just sounds like he was kidding. He was just making a joke right? Oh god please tell me he was! I don't want to completely lose my faith in humanity until the nukes start flying.

He was imitating a person on the forum called Sulivloom ( cant spell it) which the poster mentioned but was cut out in the quote. Neddless to say he is a massive ps3 fanbot

 

[Dr. UBAR]

The complete disconnect from reality that these people exhibit is staggering. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but is Killzone 2 even out yet? I mean, shit, no one outside of the developers and reviewers have actually played the whole game. Lots of games look impressive in the first ten minutes of a demo.

Maybe I'm overreaching, but it kind of seems like PS3 fanboys are reacting the same way Republican fanboys are: after nearly a decade of domination, they are now playing second fiddle and are absolutely losing their shit over it.

(Note: Not all Republicans, but pay attention to what pundits like Rush Limbaugh are doing, and tell me he's not totally losing his shit.)

Actually when you made that post, I was about 4 hours into the Killzone 2 campaign. Many Aussies would be further but I got it after school.

 

[caz105]

Why did it get marked down for not needing to change weapons very often?Am I the only one who doesn't understand this??

 

[Rational-Delirium]

Well PS3 fanboys were also angry when Little Big Planet only got a 9.0 on gamespot, and now they're doing it again. I haven't played Killzone 2 so I can't have an honest opinion on the review, but I'd say 8.7 is pretty good for an 'excellent' game. But I couldn't help but notice this comment on the site:

If i'm honest, its not a fantastic score for the best fps on PS3

I think it's a really good point. If this really is the best fps on the PS3, it should have gotten a better score than that. Maybe a 9.5 or so. I'm not trying to justify the PS3 fanboys, I'm just making an observation.