Dark Souls for PC: Petition

[Magnus]

Would it really make the game any worse for being on PC? Good games are good games no matter what format they are released on!

 

[AlternatePFG]

Would it really make the game any worse for being on PC? Good games are good games no matter what format they are released on!

Not if the port is terrible. There are plenty of good console games that have gotten awful PC ports.

 

[Magnus]

And if Microsoft subsidised it's development under the proviso, like the've done so many times before, that From Software don't talk about a PC version, then there won't be one no matter what happens.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

Any decent argument he made was nullified by his "Only PC gamers can truly appreciate a game like this" argument. What a twat.

You know, there are a lot of games that are PC-exclusive that I want to play. Like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. for instance. But it'll never get a console port (Even though GDC said they were going to way back in '07) so if I want to play it I need to save up $500-800 and build a computer that can run it.

You want to play Dark Souls? The swallow your "pride" and go buy a $200 console like the rest of us.

You do know he played Dark Souls on the consoles and loved it? He even put it in his top ten of 2011 list. He just wants a console port since there would be better graphics, better performance and there would be a LOT more sales further down the line whereas the console versions probably wont be selling any new copies a few months from now. Dark Souls is a very hardcore RPG and the PC has a lot of very hardcore RPG's, Dark Souls just fits perfectly to be a PC game.

 

[Amaror]

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Yes, i agree.
It's quite strange, i have almost never seen any "Pc elitist" on this forum talking about master race and stuff, but i heard dozens of people complaining about Pc elitist.
I even saw some console elitists, who said they were the master race and everything.

 

[AJax_21]

Would it really make the game any worse for being on PC? Good games are good games no matter what format they are released on!

Probably. It's heavy on P2P, with no dedicated servers. Giving dedicated servers defeats the purpose of the multiplayer being oppressive and unknown.
Putting it on the PC opens it to mods. Game breaking mods. Mods that you will end up having in your game because the guy who invaded you has armor that gives him resist everything 9999.

As was previously mentioned, it is designed for a controller. a PC port would require reconfiguring the entirety of the controls.

Then what about Valve's own anti-cheat program VAC or whatever they call it. Wouldn't it benefit from being a steamworks game with tighter security? It is possible and you do bring up good points about exploits. Hell there are already ones on the base game.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

It's really hard to want to be sympathetic to the PC gamer's cause here, after more than a few of the PC elitists had the fucking nerve to say "it's your fault for playing Skyrim on the PS3" back when we were all raging about the locking up issue.

I signed it though. It's a good game, and I want to try to avoid letting pettyness get in the way of more progress within the industry.

So just because one vocal minoirty on youtube vids are cunts that is a representative of the whole group? What about all the people on PS3 who laughed at xbox 360 gamers about paying a sub for using XBL and then to get annoyed when 360 owners laughed at them for being hacked?

I understand that you and a lot of people aren't like this. Although, having an attitude that I don't care or it's not my problem towards one platform is extremely petty and sad. A small subset of twats should not dictate anyone's opinion about a whole group as this is what has kept gamers divided for years. It has also stopped many of us from having a decent discussion about the pros and cons of a system.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Would it really make the game any worse for being on PC? Good games are good games no matter what format they are released on!

Probably. It's heavy on P2P, with no dedicated servers. Giving dedicated servers defeats the purpose of the multiplayer being oppressive and unknown.
Putting it on the PC opens it to mods. Game breaking mods. Mods that you will end up having in your game because the guy who invaded you has armor that gives him resist everything 9999.

As was previously mentioned, it is designed for a controller. a PC port would require reconfiguring the entirety of the controls.

How would using servers defeat the purpose? You can have official servers that have official variables and no mods which would stop all those things from being a problem. For something like this it is possible to have P2P. P2P is just not used on PC a lot because it is an inferior system of online play in many cases.

There is no reason to actually give out mod tools. Not all PC games have mods just all of the good ones tend to have mods. This could once again be filtered by blacklisted and whitelist mods on official "rank" servers and on non official servers.

Aside from all the mods are only a problem if you actually download them and you don't download mods that change your stats like that. They don't really exist. You can get broken gear but even then I can't think of anything like this released in any of the TES games.

As well as that many have said it is more than possible to use a controller on PC. I have one for my PC that is basically a PS 2 controller and that is not including the fact you can use 360 controller too. Even reconfiguring controlls is the job of a port.

 

[El Presidente]

God damn, so much hate in this thread. I feel like I'd be better off admitting I'm a Neo-Nazi on these forums than saying I'm a PC gamer. Hell, I'd probably even get some guy trying to be edgy and interesting telling me that yeah, Hitler had some good points about the Jews.

I can't believe people don't see the hypocrisy in saying "PC gamers are all stuck-up snobs with nothing but contempt for console gamers," or words to that effect.

Fuck off. TotalBiscuit makes plenty of valid points in the video about the differences between PC gaming and console gaming. Like it or not, they work differently and the two demographics tend to have different preferences.

Also, why are there people here saying they actively don't want it to come to PC? What fucking difference does it make to your life or the games you play? If you don't want to play it on PC, fine, but there's no reason to be a dickhole about it.

 

[Ickorus]

This actually sounds pretty cool, but unfortunately, I can't sign the petition as I don't live in a country where zip codes have five numbers.

I used my postcode and it worked, don't think location comes into it; they should get that edited to avoid confusion.

 

[-Samurai-]

So, his only point was "People who primarily play games on a PC would probably enjoy it, so they should get it.".

I bet people that primarily game on an NES would probably enjoy it, too. PETITION TO HAVE DARK SOULS MADE FOR NES!!

I really couldn't care less about your choice of platform or why you chose it, but if you want a company to spend money on something for you, you've got to come up with a better reason than "I think people will buy it and like it.".

 

[Jesus Phish]

I've signed it.

To all the people saying they don't want this game on a PC, why not?

If you're not going to play it on a PC, because your PC might not be good enoguh or you already have it on a console, why would you want it not to go on PC where it would sell well? And sell longer. TB made great points about how Steam took a game 20 years old and resold it. I bought the X-com pack in 2000 for £5 at the time and since lost the discs. I bought it in that Steam sale. How does it harm you if a console game goes to PC?

I'd love to buy something like Tony Hawks 4 again for my ps2, but to do so I'd have to go to ebay and hope there's a second hand copy. If that game was on PC I could find it new easier and the guys who made it would see a benefit from that.

Signed the petition.

 

[Ickorus]

So, his only point was "People who primarily play games on a PC would probably enjoy it, so they should get it.".

I bet people that primarily game on an NES would probably enjoy it, too. PETITION TO HAVE DARK SOULS MADE FOR NES!!

I really couldn't care less about your choice of platform or why you chose it, but if you want a company to spend money on something for you, you've got to come up with a better reason than "I think people will buy it and like it.".

I don't think there needs to be any more reason than that, if people buy it they make lots of money from it and if people like it there's a chance they'll earn fans who will spend hundreds more on their other games.

 

[omega 616]

TB is, just for your information, the least elitist person. He "defends" console gaming everytime some idiot asks him stupid question about the whole console vs pc thing. Because neither console nor PC gaming are superiour.

After being subbed to TB for a long ass time, I know he is a massive PC elitist! He says consoles are only good for just mindless fun.

Also, your first little paragraph gets said so much on these forums. PC players saying "there are no PC elitists, it's the console guys saying there's is better" only to go on to say your last sentence. As for controls read just before the edit on the post...

I think he thinks of it like a PC is a bugatti and the console is a kit car, the buggati is THE gaming experiance and nobody should be stupid enough to take console gaming seriously, the kit car is something to fuck around on ... Do a few drifts in the local supermarket car park etc.

On topic. I have never played either game dark or demons but movement seems to be key and since with keyboards it's set to 8 directions and nothing else, it could be a hindrance.

It's like a racing game, you can't go a little left, it's either 90 degrees left or 45 degrees. You need a controller or wheel for that and I know you can get them.

I played assassins creed on PC and it's much trickier with a mouse and keyboard than a controller! Can't count the amount of times I leaped to my death or was too slow to get 100% synch 'cos I didn't grab the ledge I wanted!

Edit, I am not bothered if the PC gets the game or not. If it means more people can enjoy it then why not and the company obviously stand to make a tonne of cash if they do.

I don't get this mentality of "it's mine and you can't have it!", it doesn't hurt anybody if PC players play it.

 

[-Samurai-]

So, his only point was "People who primarily play games on a PC would probably enjoy it, so they should get it.".

I bet people that primarily game on an NES would probably enjoy it, too. PETITION TO HAVE DARK SOULS MADE FOR NES!!

I really couldn't care less about your choice of platform or why you chose it, but if you want a company to spend money on something for you, you've got to come up with a better reason than "I think people will buy it and like it.".

I don't think there needs to be any more reason than that, if people buy it they make lots of money from it and if people like it there's a chance they'll earn fans who will spend hundreds more on their other games.

A few too many ifs in there to be worth the money it would take to port and tweak it for PC.

Companies don't take risks and hope they'll make some money. They take the sure thing and make tons of money. Porting Dark Souls to PC isn't a guaranteed win for them. A few thousand signatures on an internet filled with a few thousand of signatures for other things won't change that.

 

[Ickorus]

On topic. I have never played either game dark or demons but movement seems to be key and since with keyboards it's set to 8 directions and nothing else, it could be a hindrance.

It's like a racing game, you can't go a little left, it's either 90 degrees left or 45 degrees. You need a controller or wheel for that and I know you can get them.

I played assassins creed on PC and it's much trickier with a mouse and keyboard than a controller! Can't count the amount of times I leaped to my death or was too slow to get 100% synch 'cos I didn't grab the ledge I wanted!

The thing is, if you're a PC gamer for any length of time you'll know you can use the mouse to enable the full range of movement; im not being elitist, I imagine you can do as much with your controller as I can with my keyboard and mouse.

The only issue I can see is that on the console you can use the analog sticks to control how fast you're moving where on the PC we'll likely only get two speeds, run and walk. (Not counting sprinting because that's on a different key)