David Cameron calls for all teens to do community service.

[neonsword13-ops]

Nope.

I'm already doing something productive. LIKE HOMEWORK. (The piles won't stop...)

I don't have time for Community service right now, Mr. Cameron. So stop bothering me.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

This is basically putting jobs meant for criminals in the hands of teenagers

Whoa whoa whoa. You meant to say helping others is a job meant for criminals? It called community service because you are servicing the community. Breaking rocks and stamping licence plates are jobs meant for criminals. You could call it volunteer work and it would be the same thing. LOTS of people who are not criminals do this kind of work and actually enjoy it. I too come from Ontario where all high school kids are required to give 40 hours to the community before they get a diploma. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

I did listen to the speech where he said that and he didn't say it would be mandatory anyway, he only said it should be 'available' to all teens. Personally, I think, maybe every teen should do some community service as part of their education. How could it possibly be anything but a good thing?

What I meant was that compulsory community service are jobs saved for criminals. Only voluntary service is for people who want to help others.

 

[James Joseph Emerald]

Compulsory community service? As far as I know doing that is against the Human Rights Charta...

In theory, yes I'm for it. Hate me for it if you want, but I very much like the idea of showing all those spoiled private-schooled teenagers other sides of life. Just keeping to the extreme here of course, but I support the general idea.

A lot of European countries have mandatory conscription, where once you turn 18 you have to spend a few years in the army to learn discipline and how to survive in the real world. I don't think that's too bad of an idea. A lot of people could do with a bit of discipline, restraint and humility.

Some people blame it on class differences: "Oh poor me, I can't afford a flatscreen TV." Those inner-city London punks live in luxury compared to a soldier at a crowded Forward Operating Base.

 

[hazabaza1]

Ha hah, fuck you, Cameron.
I did nothing wrong and I refuse to do this shit because some pricks dislike you and take it as an excuse to be stupid.

 

[Barziboy]

Yep, nothing helps Teenagers buld confidence in Politics more that being forced to clean up the mess of others.

Ahem...student fees raise.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

To be honest if I lived in England I'd find some sort of loophole to get out of it. I think England's PM has to realize that it wasn't only 16 year olds in the riots. Also, it's not HELPING your society but rather hurting it by showing these people they have no say and are forced to do things against their will by the gouvernment.

 

[Pontus Hashis]

Yes, because it was all 16 year olds doing the rioting. He's like, "Um... would you chaps like to clean up, please? It's fine if you don't, just wondering..." He is a complete **** and if he gets voted in again I'm moving countries. (I hear Sweden is nice this time of year).
I also love how people are making out riots have never happened before and my generation are a bunch of degenerates and ruining the world. They've been happening for years and will continue to do so ;_; But that's just from overhearing general conversation, so I probably shouldn't take much notice. I also heard a couple of old ladies say how it was all just black people rioting. I wanted to rage on them so badly, but I'm guessing they just take Daily Mail as gospel.

Sorry, but there's no hope here either. If you thought the "it's just black people rioting" thing was bad, you would probebly die from frustration becus of all the racism here.
If I were you I would stand my ground and try and improve my country, so that it wont suck for everyone you leave behind.
Also, I accualy want to live in England or Scottland, since I liked it when I was there, but I'm not so sure now that I se the conservative bullshit you have to put up with.

 

[winter2]

If he meant that the scum that are actually CONVICTED of the looting to do this I am all for it. If he really meant all teenagers then that is kinda crazy and quite frankly draconian beyond measure.

Then again, I can see the value of building a stronger feeling of community through labor.... but then again so did Hitler I believe...

 

[SenorNemo]

This is not how social contract theory works. At least in my ethical construct, and as far as I understand the ethical construct of the English government, community service is morally commendable, not morally obligatory. It's things like that which the thinking teenager will see in society and want to riot against.

Then again, the paper the website is affiliated with has a right-leaning bias, so I'm going to wait and see before I make any conclusions.

And hey, I'm 19 and an American, so I'm just going to play London Calling and forget the whole thing.

 

[The Stonker]

Why not rather put them in jobs or military service?
They learn discipline.
Why wouldn't it be a good idea?

 

[daydreamerdeluxe]

Can we also force Mr Cameron to join in? Or will he be too busy pissing everyone off, from the education systems to the health system to the... I could go on.

Personally, I'd suggest a step in between this and National Service, and make everyone do at least a year before their 30th birthday as a PCSO. In doing that, people could get a year of pay, experience to aid them in getting future jobs, there would be more police working on the streets or (people like me) covering the paperwork to allow the proper officers to actually spend more time doing their jobs, and PCSOs would actually garner some respect. But, of course, this government is cutting the police force. Because we OBVIOUSLY don't need police. -_-*

 

[ShindoL Shill]

this is really unfair, he's PM of Scotland too.
not outrage about the OP saying PM of England its mainly to do with scotland not rioting yet we may still get this.

if by some miracle this law gets passed, is free hugs a community service?

 

[Dahaka27]

No way, just because some English Yobs and Neds trashed a few cities means by extention the Scots get punished too? Not bloody likely....

/remembers age
Whew! Not a teenager, besides, this is exaclty the reason I vote SNP.

 

[DEAD34345]

This is a non-issue. The community service isn't compulsory, he merely wants to make it available for 16 year olds.

Apart from the 1 or 2 other people who mentioned this, did any of you actually read the article?

I did, and Going down a bit, Boris Johnson said that he wants it compulsory not just available. Then it gave a quote from Cameron saying he liked that idea. Although that may have been from Jonhson but the way they wrote it made it seem like it was from Cameron

Hm... you're right. I think that's from Johnson, but they have definitely attempted to make it seem like David Cameron said it. Coming from the Daily Express, this kind of misleading writing is pretty much expected.

Still, there is absolutely no chance of compulsory community service. This isn't a real issue, it's just a sensationalist news-paper stirring up trouble as usual, and it would be better if we didn't react to this crap, because that's exactly what they want us to do (brings them more publicity and website hits).

 

[ToastiestZombie]

this is really unfair, he's PM of Scotland too.
not outrage about the OP saying PM of England its mainly to do with scotland not rioting yet we may still get this.

if by some miracle this law gets passed, is free hugs a community service?

Sorry, didnt know that. I feel dumb now

 

[Woodsey]

Given the rather wide cross-section of rioters and looters, this just smacks of them not even paying attention to it and blaming the usual scapegoat. The rioters and looters can be made to clean up their own mess, and then that can be the end of it.

I'd love to know what Golden Age all these fucking guys grew up in. Pretty sure previous decades weren't exactly renowned for their love and understanding between various groups.

 

[Jakub324]

Great, now we have to pay for someone else's mistakes. When Britain leaves the EU, I might have the slightest bit of respect for Cameron. Until then, I won't piss up his arse is his kidneys are on fire.

 

[ramboondiea]

cameron and go and fuck him self, and not in a way he will probably enjoy, he can go fuck himself with a rusty polearm.

this is the kind of crap i knew was going to be sprouted after the riots, al this will do is piss people off, community service is used as a punishment for criminals, making innocent children do the same things as criminals is madness, RAAWWR! genuinely angry now! seriously i cant stress this enough go fuck yourself cameron

 

[JasonKaotic]

It still baffles me beyond belief that anyone voted for the **** in the first place.
Eh. I'm not doing it. Nor will anyone else. We have nothing to redeem ourselves for. If every teenager in the country was in the riots, I'm pretty the country would end up in a much worse situation than it did, mister fucking Cameron.
Your generation was much worse than ours anyway, mister fucking Cameron.
Can you please somehow make the next election hurry up, mister fucking Cameron?

 

[OutsiderEX]

Personally, I am for some form of National Service: Germany and the Scandinavian nations have it and those who don't want to join the Armed Forces can do EMT or Police work.