DC Comics Wants You To Draw Naked Female Suicide

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DC is having a bad time lately. Yesterday Batwoman's authors quit because they couldn't show her lesbian marriage. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/127492-Lesbian-Marriage-Too-Tough-For-Batwoman-Authors-Leave] Apparently, DC decided to distract us from that shitstorm with another: They want naked pictures of Harley Quinn killing herself.

Seriously, that's a contest they're running. [http://www.dailydot.com/fandom/dc-comics-kill-naked-harley-quinn-contest/] The winner gets an opportunity to contribute to an upcoming comic. You need to submit 4 pictures [http://www.dccomics.com/node/305151], including "trying to get hit by lightning by waving a giant metal rod" and "wearing clothes made of chicken to get alligators to eat her". It's the last one that's got people really upset:

Harley sitting naked in a bathtub with toasters, blow dryers, blenders, appliances all dangling above the bathtub and she has a cord that will release them all. We are watching the moment before the inevitable death. Her expression is one of ?oh well, guess that?s it for me? and she has resigned herself to the moment that is going to happen.

Naturally, people are pissed [http://jezebel.com/dc-comics-contest-draw-a-naked-woman-committing-suicid-1265537616]. There are all sorts of protests about how this is sexualizing suicide and making it seem attractive, about how it would never be done with a male character, etc.

I'm just here to report the news; I have no words that can describe what I feel at hearing this. How about you, Escapists?

EDIT: By the way, (United States) National Suicide Prevention Week starts tomorrow.

EDIT 2: Might as well mention some common things being brought up in the thread.
1) "What's the big deal? Of course she's naked, she's in the bath, it's more realistic!"
A lot of people are mentioning how it's obvious that she would be undressed, as she's in the bath. First off, she's not actually taking a bath. Secondly, if it's obvious, why mention it? It deliberately takes the imagination to a place with a naked woman in it, which has sexual connotations. If they had left out "naked" it's possible that people would have drawn her naked; they also might have left her in her costume, as that's the most obvious identifier of who she is, and could lend a bit of lightheartedness to the scene. (This also ties in with point 3 about comedy)

2) "She's crazy, of course she's the one committing suicide!"
The fact that she is mentally ill is actually a bit worrisome. There are plenty of people in this thread asking if this might be some way to kill off the character. Showcasing a mentally ill character trying to kill themselves in a plausible way, with the darkest possible tone, seems like a little much to ask from a character celebrated for her lighter approach to horrible things.

3) "It's just black humour/ a realistic piece on suicide. It's art!"
These two seem opposed, but address the same problem: Tone. The first three entries are all mad black humour: wearing a clothes made of chicken to tempt alligators is straightforward comedy. The last entry is drastically different. Read the blurb above I copied from the official contest rules again, or better yet read all 4 in succession: Doesn't really match up, does it? It's entirely possible to do good black jokes about suicide, just as it's possible to do a moving, realistic artistic piece on suicide. When you mix the two, you seem to be trivializing the idea of suicide as a whole.
 

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Your title...isn't misleading. I'd sort of assumed it would have been.

*sigh*
 

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Thunderous Cacophony said:
EDIT: By the way, (United States) National Suicide Prevention Week starts tomorrow.
Now that's what I call TIMING.

Whilst I don't know much about Harley's persone in the comics, I'd venture that if she truly was to kill herself, she'd go out with a giant bang in a completely over-the-top gruesome way and although the alligator-chicken-suit seems a good way to start, I'd think it's a tad lacking in style.
 

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I don't see the problem here. If people wanted to start complaining about all the fucked shit that is drawn for comics, they should have done it years ago. But hey, if they think it's an equality issue, then maybe people should draw sexy naked Batman killing himself, and send those in too. Beats crying about it on the internet.
 

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Jesus... There are plenty of situations that make me feel annoyed or angry when it comes to how things are portrayed or treated in various forms of media. But it's fairly rare that something makes me feel physically sick.

I mean Jesus fucking Christ, this goes beyond "it gives the wrong impression" or "it's a problematic trope that reinforces stereotpyes" or anything like that. This is just fucking psychotic. I'm of the belief that while anything can potentially be funny, even siubjects like suicide, anyone who wants to make jokes about that kind of thing needs to be prepared for the fact that it's going to be an uphill struggle. And if the joke then falls flat and insults people, the person making the joke has no one to blame but themselves for bringing it up in the first place. But in this situation there is no joke. It's just suicide. Naked suicide. But that's okay because it's Harley Quinn, so therefore it's funny. And come to think of it she's not even going to be in costume, so that makes it even less cartoony and more... Yuch. I really don't want to think about this any more.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Your title...isn't misleading. I'd sort of assumed it would have been.

*sigh*
This. I came here just to see what the actual truth was and how much of a twist OP had put on it. Not sure how to feel about this.
 

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Maybe they aren't trying to be comedic? Maybe they genuinely want Harley Quinn to kill herself for some reason (haven't really read those comics in a while so I don't know what is going on there). You can depict women suffering in art without having a big hissy fit, you know?

If it is intended as comedy, I don't really see a funny side to this.
 

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Tragedy said:
Maybe they aren't trying to be comedic? Maybe they genuinely want Harley Quinn to kill herself for some reason (haven't really read those comics in a while so I don't know what is going on there). You can depict women suffering in art without having a big hissy fit, you know?
Specifically naked, mind. They gave a 4 line description of what they wanted, and being naked was one of the things they felt was important.
 

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5ilver said:
thaluikhain said:
Your title...isn't misleading. I'd sort of assumed it would have been.

*sigh*
This. I came here just to see what the actual truth was and how much of a twist OP had put on it. Not sure how to feel about this.
Me too. I'm not outraged; I'm far too busy wondering what the eff is the deal with this.
 

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This is weird. But I really can't make out anything of this without context as to "why" she's doing this shit. Accusations of sexualizing or misogyny is a wild leap.
 

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Wait, she's in the bath, about to electrocute herself. I don't know about people who are outraged by the nakedness, but any sane person I know is naked in the bath. Oh right. Every sane person, and this is Harley. Still, if you're going to kill yourself, I doubt you're going to be looking to get your best Sunday attire.

And yes, if people want a counter-campaign, they should just draw Batman in place of Harley and submit that instead.
 

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Vegosiux said:
Wait, she's in the bath, about to electrocute herself. I don't know about people who are outraged by the nakedness, but any sane person I know is naked in the bath. Oh right. Every sane person, and this is Harley. Still, if you're going to kill yourself, I doubt you're going to be looking to get your best Sunday attire.

And yes, if people want a counter-campaign, they should just draw Batman in place of Harley and submit that instead.
I was thinking the same thing, but with the Penguin. Poor guy never gets any kawaii sexy moments. :c
 

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I'm not so pissed about the suicide thing so much as pissed about the suicide thing PLUS the gay marriage thing. They're fine with people killing themselves naked but gay marriage is bad? DC is morally screwed.
 

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I don't really see the problem, it's one page of a comic book containing 4 panels of her trying (and failing in the first 3) to commit suicide. The three attempts are pretty out there and "wacky", the last one a bit less so I admit. But I'm sure that on the next page this will fail just as the other attempts have. Whatever the story reason for her trying to end her life, it could be a great (story) reason or a really stupid one. But we have not idea what the story is even about.
 

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I don't know what to say. At this point DC's inability to treat its female characters with a shred of respect post-relaunch seems less like a succession of disconnected bad creative decisions and more like a mission statement.
 

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It makes sense because it's Harley. If it was Catwoman or Starfire, there might be some pause, but remember wo this character is.
 

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I can't really be outraged by this, since (as others pointed out) she is in a bathtub, and well, it's logical for her to be naked. I'm just really puzzled by the fact that DC has (seemingly, judging by their recent share of shitstorms recently) turned from publishing kid-friendly superhero comics to sleazeploitation pulp trash for frat boys. At least that's the first image that comes to mind about the New 52 thing.

Edit: Oh shit, I re-read that description, and they didn't specify a need to be water in that bathtub. What's worrying is how in character that would be from Harley.