Deadly Sins of gaming!

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Dan B

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game companies that spend all their time creating new DLC rather than fixing glitches in the existing DLC. (hmmm MW2 is getting a lot of mentions in here)

O yeah and I think rule 3 should be never have unskippable cutscenes!
 

Poofs

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how aboutno sewer levels, no swamp levels, and dont use th right analog stick for ANYTHING besides camera control
 

Mr. Omega

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Starkiller8965 said:
Kinguendo said:
Starkiller8965 said:
I am Omega said:
6: Avoid selling out, or you better keep up quality, but even then we'lll call you greedy.
Guilty parties: Mario, Halo
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how is halo selling out when there are only 6 titles the CoD/final fantasy/castlevania franchises have considerbly more than that.
Being successful isnt selling out.

EDIT: However a lot of people acuse successful people of selling out all the time so I can see why you would think it is... some of them have but not all success is derived from selling out.

im not saying being succesful is selling out I was saying there are better examples of the percived selling out rather than picking the easy option and pointing at halo
I see your point, and to be honest I was improvising when I was writing the "guilty parties" part. There are plenty worse culprits than Halo, that's just what came to mind when I was typing. Honestly, now I think I should have put FF there. That being said, I put Halo down because the first thing that came to mind when they announced Reach, and even ODST was "Wait, wasn't Halo supposed to be a trilogy?" God of War is also guilty of that, and so is Prince of Persia, but Halo was the first one to come to mind.
 

Pat728

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I am Omega said:
Based on my "Things in gaming you'll never forgive", I'm getting less specific and putting up a list of things that generaly tend to lead to rage in the gaming community.

We all know the 7 deadly sins. Well, I've gone and made a series of 'sins' of the gaming industry. Commiting these can lead to serious nerd rage, fanboy wars or even series death!

1: (taking one from ZP here) Never end on a cliffhanger!
Guity parties: God of War 2, Halo 2.
2: If you're going to be console exclusive... STAY CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE!
Guilty parties: Kingdom Hearts, Banjo Kazooie.
3: Never release important parts (ie story, game modes) as DLC.
Guilty parties: Assassin's Creed 2, (I forgot my second choice)
4: Try to stay consistant with the series style, or if not, the game better be damn good.
Guilty parties: Zelda Wind Waker (example of damn good game), Infamous 2 (recently forgiven)
5: Try to keep a reasonable timetable. We hate delays!
Guilty parties: Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Duke Nukem Forever (I'm sorry, I couldn't resist...)
6: Avoid selling out, or you better keep up quality, but even then we'lll call you greedy.
Guilty parties: Mario, Halo
7: When a game similar to you comes out before you, comparisons are inevitable.
Guilty parties: Prototype/Infamous, MW2/BFBC2

Try to think of your own. Think about what common thing tends to universaly piss off gamers. something that when metioned, everyone seems to get mad at it,and there are very little exceptions to that rule. Things in gaming that cause unanimus rage!

Let the insanity begin!
I don't agree with a lot of these. There's nothing wrong with doing #2. It's better if a game has a chance to reach more people. #4 isn't bad either. Plenty of people would rather see a series try something new than do the same thing over and over. #5 may be annoying but games are delayed for a reason, because they aren't ready for release yet. #6 makes absolutely no sense. When exactly did mario sell out? Mario has always been with the same company throughout his entire lifespan. And #7 doesn't even fit with this list. I don't see how "Similar things will be compared" is a "deadly sin" of gaming.
 

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If you're going to make a game primarily for a console and then port it to the PC then fair enough, but:

- FUCKING OPTIMISE IT PROPERLY YOU MORONS
- Include all graphical options in the menu, as well as a mouse sensitivity bar where 0 doesn't move it at all and *top number* makes you do a 720 degree turn just by looking at the mouse.
- Have menus where the option that my mouse is over and clicking on is the one that I select, do not include the console-thing where it highlights options. If I click 'load game', and that's right next to 'delete save' and that is still highlighted despite my moving the cursor out of the button's 'detect' zone, then I will be sorely pissed if I delete my save.
- Don't use GfWL!

Seriously developers, if you want me to spend £35 then I'm happy to do it, but it's the (mostly) little things that count.
 

The Ambrosian

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Pat728 said:
I am Omega said:
Based on my "Things in gaming you'll never forgive", I'm getting less specific and putting up a list of things that generaly tend to lead to rage in the gaming community.

We all know the 7 deadly sins. Well, I've gone and made a series of 'sins' of the gaming industry. Commiting these can lead to serious nerd rage, fanboy wars or even series death!

1: (taking one from ZP here) Never end on a cliffhanger!
Guity parties: God of War 2, Halo 2.
2: If you're going to be console exclusive... STAY CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE!
Guilty parties: Kingdom Hearts, Banjo Kazooie.
3: Never release important parts (ie story, game modes) as DLC.
Guilty parties: Assassin's Creed 2, (I forgot my second choice)
4: Try to stay consistant with the series style, or if not, the game better be damn good.
Guilty parties: Zelda Wind Waker (example of damn good game), Infamous 2 (recently forgiven)
5: Try to keep a reasonable timetable. We hate delays!
Guilty parties: Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Duke Nukem Forever (I'm sorry, I couldn't resist...)
6: Avoid selling out, or you better keep up quality, but even then we'lll call you greedy.
Guilty parties: Mario, Halo
7: When a game similar to you comes out before you, comparisons are inevitable.
Guilty parties: Prototype/Infamous, MW2/BFBC2

Try to think of your own. Think about what common thing tends to universaly piss off gamers. something that when metioned, everyone seems to get mad at it,and there are very little exceptions to that rule. Things in gaming that cause unanimus rage!

Let the insanity begin!
I don't agree with a lot of these. There's nothing wrong with doing #2. It's better if a game has a chance to reach more people. #4 isn't bad either. Plenty of people would rather see a series try something new than do the same thing over and over. #5 may be annoying but games are delayed for a reason, because they aren't ready for release yet. #6 makes absolutely no sense. When exactly did mario sell out? Mario has always been with the same company throughout his entire lifespan. And #7 doesn't even fit with this list. I don't see how "Similar things will be compared" is a "deadly sin" of gaming.
Selling out isn't to do with changing companies. It means when you change to become more mainstream/accumulate more money from the changes.
 

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Starkiller8965 said:
I am Omega said:
6: Avoid selling out, or you better keep up quality, but even then we'lll call you greedy.
Guilty parties: Mario, Halo
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how is halo selling out when there are only 6 titles the CoD/final fantasy/castlevania franchises have considerbly more than that.
The problem isn't the amount of Halo games, the problem is that they're popular.
 

Mr. Omega

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Pat728 said:
I don't agree with a lot of these. There's nothing wrong with doing #2. It's better if a game has a chance to reach more people. #4 isn't bad either. Plenty of people would rather see a series try something new than do the same thing over and over. #5 may be annoying but games are delayed for a reason, because they aren't ready for release yet. #6 makes absolutely no sense. When exactly did mario sell out? Mario has always been with the same company throughout his entire lifespan. And #7 doesn't even fit with this list. I don't see how "Similar things will be compared" is a "deadly sin" of gaming.
Most of thses aren't , my opinions, these are just things I noticed that people tend to get angry about. Not posting my personal ideas, just my observations. On a side note, I pulled number 7 completly out of nowhere, so yeah, I agree with you on that one in retrospect.
On another side note, don't get me wrong, I love Mario. I f***cking love Mario. I still buy most of his games. But I'm not gonna kid myself. Mario Golf (good game) Mario Tenis (good game) Mario Party (good up to 3) Mario Kart (GREAT games), Dr. Mario (Good game), Mario + Sonic Olympic Games (...meh.) among a few others I forgot. These are all good games, don't get me wrong. Hence why I put the "keep up quality" part.
Mario is overused. Sure, he's a mascot of nintendo, but so is Link. So is Samus. So is Kirby. And they're lucky to get more than one game per system. Like I said, I f***ing love Mario, but I'm not gonna kid myself.
 

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Eukaryote said:
Don't punish players for leaving matches

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Wrong! Punish them, punish them severely!

Gotta agree with "no unskippable cutscenes tho", especially ones immediately before brutal boss fights!
 

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otterdude said:
Don't create an expensive DLC that is required to download any other much cheaper DLC, even would-be free ones that come as a promotion from Dr. Pepper. *cough* Mass Effect 2
Huh? Do you mean the hammerhead? Cause that was free.
 

Con Carne

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Everything pisses off gamers. Nothing makes us happy. There's always something to ***** about.
 

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manythings said:
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QTE's. This needs to be number 1!
QTE's aren't bad, the problem is the way they are used. In God of War they are AMAZING. In most other things they are just pissing annoying.

I would take issue with "Never end on a Cliffhanger". If it is a definite trilogy the second game can but the first game should always be a stand alone story.
I agree with what you said about QTEs, they can be a good addition to s gsme, but only if used properly. Unfortunately, the majority of developers don't use them properly, hence why they annoy so very many people. I think that Assassin's Creed II actually used QTEs quite well, because you got several opportunities if you missed one, and you didn't even have to do it at all if you didn't want

I do have to take issue with your second point though, because I hate that mindset where the first game can be a stand alone great but the second and third then make no sense without each other. It's common in film trilogies as well, and it annoys me then. If something is definitely part of a trilogy then I have no problem with the endings running into the next games beginning (such as Lord of the Rings, in movie terms). Otherwise, make games work by themselves
 

CHIMP MAGNET

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What did halo do to sell out? if your referring to Halo wars than that's not bungies fault. the license for a halo rts was out sourced when bungie was still firmly sucking microsofts balls.
 

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Well, Rare doesn't have choice which console their games are now on, they're owned by Micrsoft, so does the Banjo Kazooie franchise get a pardon?

I'll make a list of gamer commandments since you hit the nail on the head with the sins bit.

1. Thou shalt not camp.
2. Thou shalt not spawn kill.
3. Keep thine voice down.
4. Thou shalt not brag.
5. Thou shalt not spam grenades.
6. Thou shalt be fair.
7. Thou shalt not swear excessivly.
8. Thou shalt not be a cheap bastard.
9. Assist thine team mates
10. Thou shalt not behave like a noob.
 

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KorLeonis said:
Eukaryote said:
Don't punish players for leaving matches

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Wrong! Punish them, punish them severely!

Gotta agree with "no unskippable cutscenes tho", especially ones immediately before brutal boss fights!
it gets especially bad when the autosave is placed BEFORE the cutscene, and not AFTER
 

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Woodsey said:
Have menus where the option that my mouse is over and clicking on is the one that I select, do not include the console-thing where it highlights options. If I click 'load game', and that's right next to 'delete save' and that is still highlighted despite my moving the cursor out of the button's 'detect' zone, then I will be sorely pissed if I delete my save.
....Not been playing AvP have you?
 

LiberalSquirrel

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I get more nerd rage when something switches console-exclusivity, rather than going from console exclusive to more consoles. As in "I've been playing such-and-such a game on the xBox and 360... why are you switching to a different platform-exclusive for the next game in the series?", for example. Raaaage!

Also, apparently typing "video games" without a space is a mortal sin. I typo'ed once, and a friend of mine went ballistic on me.