Death (sort of depressing)

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Dogstile

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Pirate Kitty said:
JoJo Bizzaro 7 said:
Pirate Kitty said:
Pleading with you? No non-human animal knows what death is or could ever express any form of suicidal thought. They simply aren't self-aware or capable of such comprehension.
I would like to see such proof.
Until I do, I would like to say one thing to you: Stop talking out of your ass. That's my thing.
Proof that a non-human animal doesn't understand death or could never contemplate suicide? Did you seriously just ask for proof of that? XD

The next time you see a cow riddled with depression, threatening to jump from the water tower, take a photo and send it to me. I'd love to see it.
Are you seriously going to the old argument style of "ridicule the opposer whilst doing nothing to back up your point"?
 

Harlemura

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I've had two pets put down this year. My cat couldn't pee and my dog couldn't see (hurr hurr, rhyme to make things less depressing). My one remaining cat is now being harassed by a Siamese cat that keeps getting into the garden.
My grandad also died, by that was years ago.

I was about to say I've got over all of them, but writing this out makes me miss 'em again...
 

Dastardly

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Hmm. Considering I know her pretty well, she's seen enough of it to have a good idea.
Who here hasn't?

You don't understand death. No-one does, until they themselves are about to die; all we get are glimpses of the final, wretched fate that awaits everything that lives and breaths.
And yet we can understand LIVING with intense suffering. We can't know for sure if death is better or worse, but there comes a time, occasionally, when it becomes worth the risk. It's partly for the animal, partly for the owner. It's easy to say, "There are other ways," but impossible to prove that fact... just like when people say, "There's always adoption" but can't guarantee that anyone, anywhere will adopt that animal/child.

For the record, her response was a "meh, OK" rather than making him sound like the next Harold Shipman.
Inaccurate. Her response contained a "meh, OK," but was not composed of that. The response was an indictment of this instance of euthanasia as killing something without trying anything else first. While being firstly insensitive, it is also inaccurate, as the OP made it clear the family was informed treatment would be ineffective, even in spite of the likely prohibitive cost.
 

Therumancer

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hyperhammy said:
My dog was put to sleep yesterday after being diagnosed with cancer...
This has really gotten me down, since I grew up with this dog, and now he's gone.
I couldn't even say goodbye, since a friend of my family was watching over him... :(
Sorry if I'm getting you guys down. My question to you guys is: Have you ever had an encounter with death inside the family or pets?
Edit: Treatment wasn't an option. It was a form of cancer that was inherited from his dad...
she was 12 years old and the cancer has spread far beyond being treatable.
Basicly every organ was infected.
This happened to me not too long ago where I lost both my dog and my cat. My dog was a huge mess, covered with fatty tumors, blind, and his mind was going, we had him put to sleep. My cat wasted away into a skeleton, and while she wasn't in any pain one night she had some trouble drinking her water, and then the next day we found that she fell asleep in the middle of the kitchen floor and passed on.

Losing pets hurts, it hurts a lot. I know how you feel.
 

microhive

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Death isn't that bad since it evens the population growth and eliminates bad genes.

Might be sad emotionally but in the end it is for the better good.
 

WOPR

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Mackheath said:
WOPR said:
You say animals don't commit suicide?

True they don't get depressed and die (like all these weak sorry excuses for animals called "humans")

Judging from your responses, and this one in particular, you come off as an animal-loving human hating douche.

Depression is real; its caused by low serotonin levels, and leads to wild mood swings, crushing sense of self-worth and massive apathy. Left untreated or unnoticed it eventually leads to self-harm, and finally to suicide. Having suffered it myself, I find it disgusting how you spout your bullshit on how it is a weakness; its a condition of the mind, far more crippling than almost any injury, and you're arrogant dismissal of it really ticks me off.
considering how much crap I've gone through, I can say most "depressives" are weak

you have no idea how many people here have whined about wanting to commit suicide over something stupid like "My iPod broke!" while I'm sitting there with a gunshot wound just saying "whatever"

yes I know depression is real but there's this magical thing called "power of will"
I am a depressed person but you know what I do?
I get over it
I don't sit and brood over the little things

and if you knew anything about me at all you'd know that the average person would kill themselves after 3 days in my life

but yes I don't know what I did to deserve being called a "douche" (great use of vocabulary by the way, try calling me something other then a "shower" or "woman's cleaning devise" next time, okay?)

but I don't really "love animals" with the kind of zeal that "eat no meat!" people have

I just like them more

animals didn't beat the crap out of me for 18 years while law enforcement turned a blind eye because I was different

so bluntly put, I like animals more the humans because they're more HUMANE

don't blame me, blame your species.
 

SenseOfTumour

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I'm not going to feed the troll and let him enjoy emotionally abusing a recently bereaved person, but damn, I've been there, I've lost two grandparents and my dog, not recently, but it's sure come back, and just know it'll get easier, but you won't forget. You did the right thing, I just wish we did have the sense to allow us to switch off people living in a hospital bed in constant pain with no chance to recover, I don't understand why we're more humane to our pets than our loved ones.

Not to get into a euthanasia thread tho, someone can start one if that needs discussing.

Someone above made a good point however, sometime down the line, you may be ready to bring a new pet into your life, it's not a replacement, but they can give you some of what your dog gave you.
 

TilMorrow

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Its always sad to lose someone special my friend.
I had a dog who died because we had to put her down cause of her age and how she was dying slowly and painfully.
I also had a cat who got hit by some asshole in their car and injuryed her so badly she died not long after reaching the vets.

And one of my grandfathers died when I was young but I didn't know him that well but I was sad all the same.

I always say 'Death is nothing but another form of life'.
 

Phoenix09215

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JoJo Bizzaro 7 said:
Pirate Kitty said:
You killed your dog because it was diagnosed with cancer?

Treatment would probably be a better solution, but whatever.
Treatment for doggie cancer is expensive shit.
Which would you prefer: The dog suffers through multiple chemo sessions with little hope of improving, or gets put down quickly and painlessly.

This was the more humane choice.
Take this mans word. About 6 or 7 years ago my dog, Tyson got diagnosed with a serious heart condition. He and our other dog has just had a litter of puppied and from selling them we had a lot of money. Because of this we used it to pay for treatment. For those last few months that he was alive he was in pain all the time and miserable... It still makes me sad thinking about it now. So the lesson is; if a vet tells your your pet has a severe illness and the chances aren;t good then its probably better to put it down while its still happy...
 

BatOtaku13

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Pets are incredibly hard to let go of. my family had to put down our 16 year old dog a week ago, and even though we knew it was for the best, it's still sad to think about. the best way to look at it is that our pets are in better places now, and that they made our lives happy, which is what any pet should always do.
 

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I was reading this thread whilst listening to the sad part of the soundtrack at the end of Black Hawk Down, very suitable.

O.T. Death was a little alien to me because no one close to me actually died until I was 13 (well, my great-grandmother did, but I was about 2 years old). It was my granddad and I was really taken aback at how someone (or in this case, your dog) can be taken from you so quickly. Every time I think of him I miss him.
 

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hyperhammy said:
My dog was put to sleep yesterday after being diagnosed with cancer...
This has really gotten me down, since I grew up with this dog, and now he's gone.
I couldn't even say goodbye, since a friend of my family was watching over him... :(
Sorry if I'm getting you guys down. My question to you guys is: Have you ever had an encounter with death inside the family or pets?
Edit: Treatment wasn't an option. It was a form of cancer that was inherited from his dad...
she was 12 years old and the cancer has spread far beyond being treatable.
Basicly every organ was infected.
I'm sorry for your loss. Losing anyone/thing you love is really hard. Maybe not yet, but someday I hope you find comfort in remembering the good life you gave your dog, and how when the shit hit the fan, the people in his life stepped up and did what was right. Having pets is a big responsibility and it's not just about feeding and training them. We're responsible for the quality of their lives and that includes death.

It will get better though, I promise. The pain will recede with time. You'll never forget him but you will get past this loss and go on to be a companion for another animal someday. I've lost many people and pets in my life - it never gets easier, but it does get better.

*hugs hammy*
 

Irony's Acolyte

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My family's dog died about a year ago. She had been having seizures for about two weeks. We were planing on putting her down but one night when me and my mom came home we found her dead in her crate. We had to take her to the vet to be preserved, then buried her in the back yard. I miss her every now and then, but it hit my mom really hard.

Thankfully I haven't lost anyone in my family so far. But losing a pet can be pretty hard, I know.
 

Thundero13

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Awww *hug* the only experience I've ever had with death was when my cat died although he was more of my brothers cat I didn't really feel that sad until months later, I don't know why.
Anyway cheer up, you'll get over it.
 

tom919

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Death is scary to us because we don't know what comes next. Science tells us an afterlife isn't logical and as a scientist (hoping to study medicine) I take that stand point. I'm not saying death doesn't scare me. There's a lot I want to do and if death takes me before I'm done I'm worried I'll have regrets. I think it's the same for everyone. Mortality is a *****, but so would be living forever. At the end of the day your dog lived for 12 years for a dog that's 84, same age my dog was. It lived a good life and you should be happy you got to share it. Now you have to look to the future and your friends. That will help you survive, don't linger on the subject for too long either. Oh and ignore people who say you made the wrong choice, your choices are your own and if you can say "I was right" then you've done the right thing.