i loved it. it was true to the original and SS2 was hot. no weird squid thingy at the end though. that would have been cool
The crazy four hour cut is perfect.lyrandar said:Great, the crazy four hour cut could be perfect but I am unfortunately yet to see it.
each character is an archetype that is supposed to be identifiable on some levelNovskij said:I was bored through the whole movie.
No i didnt like it, it was compleatly unmemorable.
Can someone enlighten me on the message and ideas its trying to give me, because ill see with the characters is non-stop bollux talking, oh and that dude in the white/black mask, Clint Eastwood much?
the "massive plothole" is explained as the comedian feels that the massive number of deaths that would be caused by Adrian's plan and the lie that he was planning to spread over the world.HigherTomorrow said:That's because people fail to understand what it meant.cabooze said:personally, I believe that it is the best movie in it's genre and generally, a fantastic movie.
and btw, the alien octopus was fucking retarded and I will never understand the people who believe that it was better than the movie ending.
See, while Adrian Veidt managed teleportation, all living things died in transmission. He used this fact to his advantage, and crafted a fake 'alien' that would 'teleport' from another dimension, and wipe out half of New York. The teleportation resembled Dr. Manhattan's technique, and gave a reason for the East and West to band together against an 'alien threat'.
As mentioned before, yes, the lack of the squid has a massive plothole, as The Comedian has nothing to realize and therefore nothing to drive him mad.
After going over this fact, I decided that the novel's ending is, in fact, better.
Yeah well, the music itself ruined the mood for a good few times. It's like having a serious sex scene between the protagonist and the girl, with Jon Lajoie's "I Cum Too Fast" playing in the background. Doesn't matter what the reasoning is behind that song being in there, nobody is going to take that sex scene seriously.HigherTomorrow said:"Ride of the Valkyrie"s was a nod to Hollis Mason's childhood experience that he referenced in Under the Hood. The songs, "Times Are A-Changin'" and "Unforgettable" are both referenced in the novel as tag-lines for Ozymandia's Nostalgia cologne line. "All Along The Watchtower" is references as well. Not too sure if Hallelujah was in the book, or Sounds of Silence, but most of the songs had reasons.Klepa said:My biggest problem with the movie was the horribly misplaced music. Ride of the Valkyries, All along the watchtower, Hallelujah, Sounds of Silence.. Gah. There was other stuff as well, but the misplaced music is something that I remember.
I don't know about Dr.Manhattan, to me he seemed to be devoid of ego and emotion that's why i labeled him in my mind as "detached". I just don't know about John anymore, its like he sees things on another level. When he looks around its like hes seeing something completely different from us. ~Silk SpectreNovskij said:Ah i can see now better, thanks.captainwillies said:each character is an archetype that is supposed to be identifiable on some levelNovskij said:I was bored through the whole movie.
No i didnt like it, it was compleatly unmemorable.
Can someone enlighten me on the message and ideas its trying to give me, because ill see with the characters is non-stop bollux talking, oh and that dude in the white/black mask, Clint Eastwood much?
Dr.Manhattan (blue guy) = intellectual detachment
Rorsharch (Clint Eastwood :3) = undying pessimism on the darker side of man (never give up even in the face of oblivion or incidentally peace)
The Comedian = conscious acceptance of the darker side of man resulting in a self styled parody e.g. "It's all a joke" (also too stay sane one must become insane).
Night Owl = Nobility and determination to remain "normal" even after looking into the void (also emotional issues)
Ozymandias = Intellectual Ultimatum (Ordinary morality is for ordinary people) or (can't make an omelet without cracking some eggs, also know as the "Tyler Durden method")
Silk Spectre = Token Female :3
you can read plenty of story synopses on the web i won't bother boring you although i will say if your having trouble getting into the series just smoke some weed or make some hash brownies then watch the movie. for me this method really helped when i watched Army of Darkness, if not i may have never considered the "Evil Dead" series :3
Could it be that Dr Manhattan has an ego more than anything then? As such he feels superior to all so he stops caring. Which is a common thing amongst people who achieve a great deal, even outside scientists, such as muscisians and rich people.
With the comedian i think its more nihilism with him(which is also an acceptance of mans darker side), a rejection of morality and beliefs, so to enjoy life he turns it into a joke.(Incidentally, alot of comedians are depressed people due to the negativity in life, a common route to make happyness even in the darkest of times)
The Night Owl is having trouble escaping the past, thats a pretty old theme i think.
Ozymandias i think, is just another case of a an ego and superiority complex, but there isnt ordaniry morality, everyone has a diffrent morality, but he thinks himself superior and that he can do whatever he wants with those below him.
Am i seeing it right now?![]()