Did You Like Watchmen's Movie Adaptation?

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nick n stuff

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i loved it. it was true to the original and SS2 was hot. no weird squid thingy at the end though. that would have been cool
 

Acidwell

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I really like it, it was 100 times more faithful to the graphic novel than v for vendetta or league of extraordinary gentlemen and is so much better for it.
Yeah there are a few problems with it but it is a very good film in its own right and an enjoyable adaptation.
 

The Great JT

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I enjoyed it. I thought it would've been better if they'd kept the space squid and made the reason the world has to unite "to fight the threat of alien invasion" rather than Dr. Manhattan, but overall I liked it.
 

Doomsday11

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Loved it also I though the ending was better then the novel's with Docter M being the cause it fitted together better in my opinion
 

NeuroticMarshmallow

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Overall the production was impressive and the acting was top notch-yet the film was a bit long which caused the film to be stretched thin. but its so gorgeously shot (in fact probably the most gorgeously shot film out there) and the instrumental soundtrack impressive. I didn't finish the graphic novel,sadly-so this is the opinion from someone unbiased on the graphic novel itself.
 

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Novskij said:
I was bored through the whole movie.

No i didnt like it, it was compleatly unmemorable.

Can someone enlighten me on the message and ideas its trying to give me, because ill see with the characters is non-stop bollux talking, oh and that dude in the white/black mask, Clint Eastwood much?
each character is an archetype that is supposed to be identifiable on some level

Dr.Manhattan (blue guy) = intellectual detachment

Rorsharch (Clint Eastwood :3) = undying pessimism on the darker side of man (never give up even in the face of oblivion or incidentally peace)

The Comedian = conscious acceptance of the darker side of man resulting in a self styled parody e.g. "It's all a joke" (also too stay sane one must become insane).

Night Owl = Nobility and determination to remain "normal" even after looking into the void (also emotional issues)

Ozymandias = Intellectual Ultimatum (Ordinary morality is for ordinary people) or (can't make an omelet without cracking some eggs, also know as the "Tyler Durden method")

Silk Spectre = Token Female :3

you can read plenty of story synopses on the web i won't bother boring you although i will say if your having trouble getting into the series just smoke some weed or make some hash brownies then watch the movie. for me this method really helped when i watched Army of Darkness, if not i may have never considered the "Evil Dead" series :3
 

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HigherTomorrow said:
cabooze said:
personally, I believe that it is the best movie in it's genre and generally, a fantastic movie.

and btw, the alien octopus was fucking retarded and I will never understand the people who believe that it was better than the movie ending.
That's because people fail to understand what it meant.

See, while Adrian Veidt managed teleportation, all living things died in transmission. He used this fact to his advantage, and crafted a fake 'alien' that would 'teleport' from another dimension, and wipe out half of New York. The teleportation resembled Dr. Manhattan's technique, and gave a reason for the East and West to band together against an 'alien threat'.

As mentioned before, yes, the lack of the squid has a massive plothole, as The Comedian has nothing to realize and therefore nothing to drive him mad.

After going over this fact, I decided that the novel's ending is, in fact, better.
the "massive plothole" is explained as the comedian feels that the massive number of deaths that would be caused by Adrian's plan and the lie that he was planning to spread over the world.

though uncharacteristic, it shows that even the ruthless comedian was just like everyone else in the movie, heavily flawed but with good qualities.
 

erbkaiser

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I liked the film, but not a lot. The Últimate Cut' though -- with the Tales of the Lost Freighter mixed in with the movie -- I love it.

And I think the movie ending is better than the Squid.
 

Dr. Danger

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I read the graphic novel in preparation for the film. The first time I saw it, I was outraged by all the things that were left out and some of the actor/ress choices. Then I went and saw it again in a different mindset only to find how much I really enjoyed it. So much so that I saw it twice while it was still in cinema and bought it for blu-ray the day it was released.

The ending made much more sense even if it was less creative. On the other hand, almost all of my favourite scenes weren't included in the film. And little alterations like Dan and Laurie having their conversation in the diner instead of the rooftops managed to make me foam a little. Then the lack of explanation about Bubastis AND the lack of Adrian Veidt's backstory. Which is amazing.

Overall, it's a brilliant film.
 

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HigherTomorrow said:
Klepa said:
My biggest problem with the movie was the horribly misplaced music. Ride of the Valkyries, All along the watchtower, Hallelujah, Sounds of Silence.. Gah. There was other stuff as well, but the misplaced music is something that I remember.
"Ride of the Valkyrie"s was a nod to Hollis Mason's childhood experience that he referenced in Under the Hood. The songs, "Times Are A-Changin'" and "Unforgettable" are both referenced in the novel as tag-lines for Ozymandia's Nostalgia cologne line. "All Along The Watchtower" is references as well. Not too sure if Hallelujah was in the book, or Sounds of Silence, but most of the songs had reasons.
Yeah well, the music itself ruined the mood for a good few times. It's like having a serious sex scene between the protagonist and the girl, with Jon Lajoie's "I Cum Too Fast" playing in the background. Doesn't matter what the reasoning is behind that song being in there, nobody is going to take that sex scene seriously.

Or having a movie where a man is fighting testicular cancer, and a doctor tells him that he needs to get neutered. As we are shown how the man starts crying over the idea of losing his figurative and literal manhood, AC/DC's "Ballbreaker" starts playing on the background. Nobody will feel sorry for the man.

Music's there to convey mood. It's accomplished by the music itself, and not the lyrics. No amount of references is enough to justify playing a song on a scene that isn't conveying the emotions the writer is after.
The whole damn script might be based on the song, but when a mother is reunited after her child, you don't show mom and son running towards each other in slow motion, and play a death metal tune on the background.
Of course it wasn't this drastic in Watchmen, but a lot of the music choices were really bad.

It makes me cringe even more, knowing that most of the music is really good, but it was horribly placed.
 

captainwillies

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Novskij said:
captainwillies said:
Novskij said:
I was bored through the whole movie.

No i didnt like it, it was compleatly unmemorable.

Can someone enlighten me on the message and ideas its trying to give me, because ill see with the characters is non-stop bollux talking, oh and that dude in the white/black mask, Clint Eastwood much?
each character is an archetype that is supposed to be identifiable on some level

Dr.Manhattan (blue guy) = intellectual detachment

Rorsharch (Clint Eastwood :3) = undying pessimism on the darker side of man (never give up even in the face of oblivion or incidentally peace)

The Comedian = conscious acceptance of the darker side of man resulting in a self styled parody e.g. "It's all a joke" (also too stay sane one must become insane).

Night Owl = Nobility and determination to remain "normal" even after looking into the void (also emotional issues)

Ozymandias = Intellectual Ultimatum (Ordinary morality is for ordinary people) or (can't make an omelet without cracking some eggs, also know as the "Tyler Durden method")

Silk Spectre = Token Female :3

you can read plenty of story synopses on the web i won't bother boring you although i will say if your having trouble getting into the series just smoke some weed or make some hash brownies then watch the movie. for me this method really helped when i watched Army of Darkness, if not i may have never considered the "Evil Dead" series :3
Ah i can see now better, thanks.

Could it be that Dr Manhattan has an ego more than anything then? As such he feels superior to all so he stops caring. Which is a common thing amongst people who achieve a great deal, even outside scientists, such as muscisians and rich people.

With the comedian i think its more nihilism with him(which is also an acceptance of mans darker side), a rejection of morality and beliefs, so to enjoy life he turns it into a joke.(Incidentally, alot of comedians are depressed people due to the negativity in life, a common route to make happyness even in the darkest of times)

The Night Owl is having trouble escaping the past, thats a pretty old theme i think.

Ozymandias i think, is just another case of a an ego and superiority complex, but there isnt ordaniry morality, everyone has a diffrent morality, but he thinks himself superior and that he can do whatever he wants with those below him.

Am i seeing it right now? :p
I don't know about Dr.Manhattan, to me he seemed to be devoid of ego and emotion that's why i labeled him in my mind as "detached". I just don't know about John anymore, its like he sees things on another level. When he looks around its like hes seeing something completely different from us. ~Silk Spectre

Now with the comedian. I don't know but to my understanding nihilism almost always comes with a certain amount of apathy which is something that the Comedian is devoid of, he cares he cares a lot that's why he stayed a costume hero and fought in the Vietnam war. he almost reminds me of some extent to Batman Darknight's re-imagining of the Joker. Yes you have a point with the comedians but I myself wouldn't go so far as to call comedians "nihilistic" in a sense i would say they aren't moral-less but what they do is show us that our morals are a joke.

Same with Ozymandias too me it just wasn't an ego thing, if he was truly ego centered he would have been like "Light" from The Death Note anime i.e. He would have tried to set himself up as a god and force his idea of justice on the world. Were as what we are presented with is a man who manipulates the fears of man to coerce the worlds governments into a global peace. He reminds me of those Villains in movies that claim to do things for "The Greater Good" except this time hes right. Or atleast that is what the narrative is trying to convince us.
 

ninja555

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I liked it. Saved by Jackie Earle Haley, would have been average without him. Would have worked better as an HBO miniseries.
 

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As a fan of the comic, I loved the movie. I also agree with erbkaiser when I say that I personally thought that the movie's ending made much more sense and was more reasonable than the comic ending, which was something I was worried about when I heard they were changing the ending. It got the look and more importantly, the FEEL of the book perfectly, and they got the perfect casting for Nite Owl, Dr. Manhattan, The Comedian, and especially Rorsharch. However, I didn't really like the actors they got for Adrian Veidt and Silk Spectre, and their use of licensed songs was a bit strange (Halleluja?...Really?) but now I'm just nitpicking on what is otherwise a great movie-adaptation.
 

mikespoff

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Had never read the book, but I thought the movie was magnificent. Every frame, every line, every scene was outstanding.

Just my opinion.
 

Sovvolf

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I loved the movie, I read the comic once a month (almost) and I thought the movie was a very faithful adaptation of comic.