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Gotta go with overuse of poorly balanced weapons.

Like, say, Halo 3's shotgun. There is absolutely no time between when the shot ends and the melee starts. It's just instant.
 

Jessiah

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I'm gonna go with Annihilus charm stealing in Diablo 2. Can't do it now since you don't have to drop them to trade them to another player. But I know one of my old friends and I got away with it at least 3 times.
 

LordCraigus

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You can't really call defending an objective, flag etc. 'camping'. Staying in a good vantage point with your weapon (be it sniper, machinegun, rifle etc.) trained on where the attackers are coming from is a perfectly valid way of defending.

Camping I'd define as doing the above, but in way that doesn't help your team one bit.
 

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Statistically 70% of the gaming market is exclusively single player. I know no one believes that, probably because forum posting sorts are likely savvy when it comes to linking things together, and likely more community based. Add that to the media overload on the multiplayer front, then no one pays attention to market statistics preferring not to try and figure things out on their own.

But for the multiplayer dickwaddery.

1. Some people enjoy griefing: A griefer is a defined player type, one of eight I believe (it has been a while since I delved into that part of game theory)

2. Some people over react: Gaming is inherently designed to be frustrating. If it weren't it would be too easy and therefore boring. So you are going to be tense, and you will eventually lose. In balanced multiplayer scenarios you can be assured of losing about half the time. There are very few other areas of polite society that throw this much dirt into anyone's face. As such the governances of polite society tend to be broken down very quickly and hate filled reactions and poor sportsmanship rear their ugly heads.

3. The whole anonymous thing: You'll probably never see these people again, they don't know who you are, etc. etc. etc. This is the reason I go by mark_n_b, I want to say "I'm accountable"

4. mixed skill levels: This is why I, and most people, don't go multiplayer. Shit-talk is easily handled and a fun part of the experience, unless you are trying out a new game and there are two other players who have been playing since Beta, one is always killing you and then doing the idiot tea bagging thing, the other is on your team calling you the worst things he can type because you are not an instant expert. And you are neither learning how to play the game better (because you're dead most of the time) nor having fun (same reason).

5. It's easier to remember the crap: Honestly, most of the people you encounter in online multiplayer are there to have fun and could care less about the score or winning or losing or who's new or who's old or whatever. But one bad apple does spoil the bunch and after five games you are going to remember how unpleasant that one guy who spent the whole game camping spawn points and that other guy who called you a "*****************" before you'll remember how much of the map you learned, or how you got a "good job" message sent to you after a successful push.
 

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In some COD4 maps there are are some buildings without window, so, i get in one, put a bunch of claymores on the stairs and I stay for the whole match. I only do this when im really having a low skill day.
 

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Unfortunately, since my friend can be a douche sometimes, I absolutely can't stand it if my deaths are more than my kills on my Kill:Death ratio. It's just so annoying when he looks at my stats and says "Man you suck" while he has over 1000 more kills than deaths at 1300:300 ratio. The worst part is, I can bet you he didn't earn those kills fairly. He doesn't to it the "honest" way, he asks people if they can help him achive "100 headshots with X sniper rifle" and some people agree with him. Nevertheless, he's a good guy, just a jackass sometimes.

And 'nade spamming is extrememly heavy in CoD4 as people throw cooked grenades and have martydom and people hold grenades and die and then there's two grenades on the ground. And let's not forget the noob tube. Sometimes I was 30 ft away (I checked the killcam) and I still died. While everytime I throw a grenade, it's about a 1 in 500000 chance that it will actually kill something.

Its annoying, but also part of the fun that it's a frantic team deathmatch game.

And also about camping, these "professional gamers" arn't professional at all as all they do is find a good ledge to glitch and wait for someone to come up. And example would be T-squared, the alleged "god" of Halo 3, he gave some tips on how to own at halo 3 and ALL of them were hiding spots for camping and waiting for someone to come up and "own" them ith the Sniper Rifle. He makes me sick as he probably does that all the time in Halo 3.
 

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I don't like people who spawn camp and people who hack.

Campers are fine. I've even delved into a bit of camping from time to time. Granted, that was in an objective-based gametype, so it was more 'defending' than 'camping'.
 

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Dr_Baron_von_Evilsatan said:
I have a few things specific to COD4

1. 'nade spamming

2. spawn camping

3. Spawn bombing (Instant air strike on your spawn in S&D)

4. jumping/diving/dancing

5. blatant overuse of Juggernaut and Martyrdom

6. P90 + triple grenades + stopping power/double tap + martyrdom

7. Grenade Launcher when it's used instead of bullets.
I do all of those *eep*(sometimes I do the cardinal sin of Juggernaut AND Last Stand)
Jumplion said:
And example would be T-squared, the alleged "god" of Halo 3, he gave some tips on how to own at halo 3 and ALL of them were hiding spots for camping and waiting for someone to come up and "own" them ith the Sniper Rifle. He makes me sick as he probably does that all the time in Halo 3.
Going around the other team with invisibility while your team is BRing is camping? Running away while throwing grenades is camping?The Frag headshot or the B,Y,B combos is camping?
 

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I used to know a girl who talked dirty over Live. Like....real dirty, and then shoot bewildered teenage boys in the face.

She got off on that shit.
 

Lord Krunk

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Camping and Sniping. In TF2, sniping is cured by the Spy, but when an entire team decides to go Engy, it gets really annoying. It gets worse when the other team goes engy, too, and I'm stuck as a lone soldier, taking down sentries slower then they're being rebuilt.

My preferred tactic is to charge in there, guns blazing. It's not the smartest thing to do, but it's:

1) The most fun;

2) The most brave.

To quote Terry Pratchet in 'Eric': "The bravest general can say 'CHAAARGE!', but cowards always make the best strategists."

The cowards in this case are Snipers and Campers, who do nothing but hide. However, it is effective, and so should be commended as the 'smart' thing to do, if not the most commendable.
 

Lord Krunk

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Nah, the context is that Rincewind's (The worst wizard of all time, and renowned coward/athlete) ancestor was the man who came up with the idea for the Trojan Horse.
 

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Lord Krunk said:
Nah, the context is that Rincewind's (The worst wizard of all time, and renowned coward/athlete) ancestor was the man who came up with the idea for the Trojan Horse.
Ah so its not a quote on real life I see.
 

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shatnershaman said:
Lord Krunk said:
Nah, the context is that Rincewind's (The worst wizard of all time, and renowned coward/athlete) ancestor was the man who came up with the idea for the Trojan Horse.
Ah so its not a quote on real life I see.
Dude, Terry Pratchett! Of course it's not real life, have you not heard of the awesomeness that is Terry Pratchett and his Diskworld series?

As for what annoys me online, I'll have to say that camping isn't very high up there. Frankly, it's the bastard that hogs the power weapons. I'm not as stupid to say that everyone has to use the same weapon, but still, someone using an over-power weapon doesn ruin it for me.
 

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shatnershaman said:
Lord Krunk said:
Nah, the context is that Rincewind's (The worst wizard of all time, and renowned coward/athlete) ancestor was the man who came up with the idea for the Trojan Horse.
Ah so its not a quote on real life I see.
I don't know... Napoleon was probably the end of smart 'run in there and beat the crap out of them' tactics. I could be wrong, but nowadays warfare is just hiding, fooling around, and terrorizing developing countries in the name of 'freedom' (oil).

To quote Stalin (I think), "One man's death is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic."

Is it just me, or have a couple of 'tragedies' been happening recently?

NOTE: The most people who died at any given point in the Iraq war were British soldiers; the ones who were bombed by -you guessed it- Americans.

EDIT: Oh, and I agree with TPAM. Martyrdom is cheap.
 

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shatnershaman said:
Jumplion said:
And example would be T-squared, the alleged "god" of Halo 3, he gave some tips on how to own at halo 3 and ALL of them were hiding spots for camping and waiting for someone to come up and "own" them ith the Sniper Rifle. He makes me sick as he probably does that all the time in Halo 3.
Going around the other team with invisibility while your team is BRing is camping? Running away while throwing grenades is camping?The Frag headshot or the B,Y,B combos is camping?
No, finding an invisible ledge that no one else can get to is camping. Finding an invisible ledge, jumping from that ledge to another invisible ledge where it's impossible for anyone to see you is camping. Going off the freakin' map where there is yet ANOTHER invisible ledge on a pile of grass where you pop out and kill someone passing by is camping.

Though I guess that's what halo is based off of ;)
 

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Jumplion said:
shatnershaman said:
Jumplion said:
And example would be T-squared, the alleged "god" of Halo 3, he gave some tips on how to own at halo 3 and ALL of them were hiding spots for camping and waiting for someone to come up and "own" them ith the Sniper Rifle. He makes me sick as he probably does that all the time in Halo 3.
Going around the other team with invisibility while your team is BRing is camping? Running away while throwing grenades is camping?The Frag headshot or the B,Y,B combos is camping?
No, finding an invisible ledge that no one else can get to is camping. Finding an invisible ledge, jumping from that ledge to another invisible ledge where it's impossible for anyone to see you is camping. Going off the freakin' map where there is yet ANOTHER invisible ledge on a pile of grass where you pop out and kill someone passing by is camping.

Though I guess that's what halo is based off of ;)
Yea what next hiding in cardboard boxes? Or even Barrels that are made of metal that is solid and may even be Japanese or meatshields like in Gears of War 2.