'Disney's first black princess - a good thing?'
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To this day I still haven't noticed any black zombies. Are they hinding from me, or am I just not 'sensitive' enough to that sort of thing to notice them?Furburt said:
As for this movie... I don't care whether or not the princess is black, asian, latino or a robot, but I guess the creators do. At least I think they do. I'm not sure if it was this film or another one, but there was A film out there with a black princess who's original design was caucasian.
I don't mind this switch, but I do wonder what the point of it was. Did her being black suddenly make the story better? Did it change any message the film was supposed to express? Or was it the result of a bunch of executives who were so steeped in racial guilt that they were worried they'd send a wrong message by displaying a white girl with a tiara on her head, instead of a black girl?
Oh god, that pissed me the hell off.Furburt said:
There are infected black people, therefore it is racist...so, it would be less racist to have every single human in the game white? Makes sense.
As long as it's not a black girl inserted into a European fairy-tale (as most Disney movies are) in the intrests of tokenism, I don't really care.
Old news, and as it's even OLDER news that racism pervades every single disney movie, this one does not dissapoint the pattern.
As a black man let me tell you, don't listen to he racist blacks. I like killing black people as much as I like killing white people......err......zombies....in games...you get what I mean.Vanguard_Ex said:
I really do like that they are including more races in games though. THe sad reality is that the world as it is now is not racially free, but if the games industry is any indication, it's definately on the way.
I agree. Its like the Resident Evil series. I admit I've not played RE5, which is the one people complain about, but throughout the series, haven't the zombies been caucasian (sp?), spanish/mexican and indian? And its a Japanese game. Maybe RE5 is racist (Yatzee seems to think so), as I say, I havn't played it. I hadn't heard of the fuss with L4D2. You can't have games like those fifty cent whatever-it-was skull games and then complain about a few black zombies in with the hoardes.Vanguard_Ex said:
Well Walt Disney would be turning in his cryogenic grave. He's a bit of a bastard.
I don't overly care that much, I don't see a racial divide anywhere around me so there's no reason to even remark on it really.
I don't overly care that much, I don't see a racial divide anywhere around me so there's no reason to even remark on it really.
I'm betting the bigger fuss if Aladin was released today would be over depicting Muslim characters. Oh, and when the Sultan says, "Praise Allah", there would be rocks thrown at Disney. But anyways...
I wouldn't call it a huge deal, but I think its more significant then you think. Disney makes movies out of fables, fairy tales, folklore, etc. And at a certain point, your just going to have to include characters of other races if you want to make a movie at all. Its a pragmatic necessity. However, Princess and the Frog could have very easily had a white princess, and no one would blink an eye. But in this case, Disney chose to make there princess black simply because they can. It may be, "Can make more money by appealing to the black demographic" but still, end result is the same. And the idea that a character can be a minority race without being forced into it is fairly unusual. And Ill even give them credit for it being a good idea. Of course, the real progressiveness here is that there can be a black princess voluntarily, and that's not a big deal, so step 2 in this process is to not make a big deal out of it. Notice it, give Disney a brief thumbs up, and move on. Hope the movie is good.
I wouldn't call it a huge deal, but I think its more significant then you think. Disney makes movies out of fables, fairy tales, folklore, etc. And at a certain point, your just going to have to include characters of other races if you want to make a movie at all. Its a pragmatic necessity. However, Princess and the Frog could have very easily had a white princess, and no one would blink an eye. But in this case, Disney chose to make there princess black simply because they can. It may be, "Can make more money by appealing to the black demographic" but still, end result is the same. And the idea that a character can be a minority race without being forced into it is fairly unusual. And Ill even give them credit for it being a good idea. Of course, the real progressiveness here is that there can be a black princess voluntarily, and that's not a big deal, so step 2 in this process is to not make a big deal out of it. Notice it, give Disney a brief thumbs up, and move on. Hope the movie is good.
ThisJoshGod said:
at the end of the day, it really doesnt matter one iota what skin colour she is...
Being black I must ask, how is Milly racist? The only milly I've ever heard of was white while Tiana is among the list of stereotypical black names.
Anyway, it was refreshing and my sister is excited but truthfully I didn't make a big fuss. I want to see it because it might actually be good as opposed to everything to come out disney in the last few year (Up was pretty good but the majority of credit goes to Pixar).
Anyway, it was refreshing and my sister is excited but truthfully I didn't make a big fuss. I want to see it because it might actually be good as opposed to everything to come out disney in the last few year (Up was pretty good but the majority of credit goes to Pixar).
It's this whole mentality of being so insanely careful not to step on anyone's toes. Because in the western society we assume every game of ours comes from the west, any unsavoury depiction of other races MUST be racism. Because as we all know, there are no other people on the globe beyond Germany.Eekaida said:
RE4 comes out, zombies are spanish or whatever they where, noone says anything...
RE5 comes out, zombies are black, people go crazy....
RE5 comes out, zombies are black, people go crazy....
