DmC: Devil May Cry - Honest Opinions

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llew

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bartholen said:
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The thing is, it doesn't matter what the rest of the game is like because they've turned Dante from an interesting, confident, unique badass into the persona of the worst kind of gamers. It pains me to think this is what gaming companies think players relate to. It scares me more that they're partially right.
Yeah, right, because his previous handsome, athlete, unstoppable badass super warrior persona was SO MUCH MORE relatable.
The thing is they didnt try to make Dante A relateable, they just tried to make him cool, badass and cocky, with Dante B they tried to make him relateable and you can see the result
 

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llew said:
bartholen said:
The_Scrivener said:
The thing is, it doesn't matter what the rest of the game is like because they've turned Dante from an interesting, confident, unique badass into the persona of the worst kind of gamers. It pains me to think this is what gaming companies think players relate to. It scares me more that they're partially right.
Yeah, right, because his previous handsome, athlete, unstoppable badass super warrior persona was SO MUCH MORE relatable.
The thing is they didnt try to make Dante A relateable, they just tried to make him cool, badass and cocky, with Dante B they tried to make him relateable and you can see the result
Dante wasn't exactly relatable, but he was still fun and cool. A LOT of characters in fiction aren't relatable such as James Bond, Superman, Conan the Barbarian, John Carter, Alucard (from Hellsing AND Castlevania), Deadpool, etc but that doesn't mean I can't sympathize with or like him. Dante was just FUN and a great antidote for the DOZENS of milquetoast Marcus Phoenix knockoffs clogging up modern gaming
 

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But DmC isn't avaliable for the Wii either...

You said it wasn't on your platform of choice, when the important games are on PS3, 360 and PC. The only point you proved is you are willing waste money to attempt to make someone angry on the internet. Which is completely silly, but you even did a poor job at that. Anyone can say they preordered it, if you really want to make someone mad post a picture to prove it or claim you're 12 and Donte is mature because he says fuck you and the writing is Shakespearean. Also it's The Escapist, I know people having terrible taste on here.
Well, if Wii was my platform of choice then I would not have any interest in it...

The 'important' games? What is with the first two entries? Are they so shitty that people tend to ignore them? I would argue that in any series the first entry is important and even if the follow up is shit (hi Highlander 2) it does not hold less importance than the third game. Afterall, it was the second games sales that made the third one possible.

And for the part about taste: Right back at you, Mr. Fan(atic).
The first one is old, it was good for it's time but it's aged. It's important for creating the series, but it's extremely bare bones and unrefined compared to the later ones. 2 was terrible at release and hasn't gotten any better, it sold because it was riding on the success of the first one.
 

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bartholen said:
The_Scrivener said:
The thing is, it doesn't matter what the rest of the game is like because they've turned Dante from an interesting, confident, unique badass into the persona of the worst kind of gamers. It pains me to think this is what gaming companies think players relate to. It scares me more that they're partially right.
Yeah, right, because his previous handsome, athlete, unstoppable badass super warrior persona was SO MUCH MORE relatable.
Adam Jensen said:
Bottom line is, this game isn't worth $60, and Ninja Theory should have known that. When you're developing a new game in a well known series, your primary concern should be "will this satisfy our existing fanbase".

What the fuck were these guys thinking?
Dev #1: "Hey guys, let's make a new Devil May Cry game, just like the previous ones!"
Dev #2: "Umm, if we do that, the fans will just accuse us of rehashing the same game. We don't want to be Call of Duty, do we?"
Dev #1: "Alright, how about we redesign the character a bit and try to shake things up a little?"
Dev# 2: "Fair enough"

After the fan reaction to the new character design:

Dev #1: "Goddammit, why didn't you warn me about the raving fans? Now we've got to redesign the game and characters!"
Dev #2: "How could I have known? Plus, if we redesign it now, the fans will just complain about how we don't stand by our decisions and call us cowards"
Dev #1: "Okay... so we're fucked either way. Let's just try to roll with this one"
Dev #2: "Fair enough"

I think I've come up with a solution. Supply the game with two different audio tracks, where one has the characters called by their original names and on the other something else. Supply the game with a flippable cover which says something else on the front. Then have the player pick a choice before the game opening screen:
1. Choose to play DMC, a reboot which everyone hates, with a redesigned main character called Dante
2. Choose to play Crazy Pizza Pie adventure, a new hack'n'slash IP from Capcom where a new character called Captain Oregano must fight the armies of heaven and hell with his brother, Lieutenant Olivebranch.

Whichever you pick, the title screen will either say DMC or Crazy Pizza Pie adventure and have the according audio track.
Every poster that quotes me has acted like I'm a fan of the series. I'm not. I'm a softcore fan at best. I enjoyed the first few, but not more than a handful of hours. It's a decent hack and slash. It didn't invent the wheel.

Nobody has addressed the point I've made that Dante (and the game) was marketed as a sexist, douchey piece of shit. When someone wants to address THAT, I'll be happy to discuss it. Stop acting like I'm another in a plague of "it isn't the old one so it sucks" jackasses. I'm not.
 

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Should we be irked that freaking Forbes once again has some of the most balanced pieces involving controversy surrounding a game? http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/01/22/dmc-devil-may-cry-review-part-one-such-a-beautiful-ugly-game/

Edit fixed grammar a bit.
 

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shadow skill said:
Should we be irked that freaking Forbes once again has some of the most balance pieces involving controversy surrounding a game? http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/01/22/dmc-devil-may-cry-review-part-one-such-a-beautiful-ugly-game/
It just makes me think that most gaming journalists need to rethink their places in the universe
 

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Aiddon said:
shadow skill said:
Should we be irked that freaking Forbes once again has some of the most balance pieces involving controversy surrounding a game? http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/01/22/dmc-devil-may-cry-review-part-one-such-a-beautiful-ugly-game/
It just makes me think that most gaming journalists need to rethink their places in the universe
The thing is most of them whether they realize it or not, are really just another part of the advertising campaigns for these companies. It seems to be very common that these people really are not playing the same thing that we are (Mass Effect 3 being the most egregious example of this.) they don't have any credibility left. Just look at how so many went on about hair, desperately trying to push that meme even after the fans had moved on to gameplay related concerns.
 

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I've ranted everywhere else, so I'm out of words to spare on this terrible, idea-sharing, boring, delaying, annoying, crappy game. The only remark I have left is: it's interesting how most people seem to be defending the game by saying DMC 4 sucked, but the only problem I had with it was the two dice game moments (those were worst than DMC 2) and the Devil Bringer being broken. I wasn't even mad about having half the game as Dante and half as Nero, I was planning on playing both sides either way. It's a terrible decision mind, but it wasn't a major issue.

captcha: burning oil...sounds like most of this thread and the others on this game.
 

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DmC is a really bland game for me, given it's pedigree. Other than 2, I enjoyed the series, even though a lot of the stupidity grated (I waited till DMC4 was like 27 bucks before I got it, and the chainsaw-sword surfboard thing almost made me return that shit on the spot).

I just don't find DmC to be a good action game, though. No target lock, anemic movelist that is further restricted by progressing through the game (you know, the place where your repertoire should expand/that expansion should be put to use), atrocious story and dialogue (and this is by Devil May Cry standards, where we had a guy with a chainsaw-sword surf on enemies to death), and uninsightful-at-best-and-insipid-at-worst social commentary just isn't gonna float my boat. The first DMC did take itself fairly seriously, sure, but the combat was so good at the time that it could get away with that. Then the latter games had a seriousness with a humorous and fun edge (Nero's quest to save what's-her-name set against Dante's completely ridiculous little song and dance routine in DMC4). This reboot just takes itself too seriously, even when kidding ("My dick's bigger than yours,").

I do like the whole "city is trying to kill you thing" and found that seriously enjoyable, although I hate the whips.

I'm not trying to just shit on the game or anything, and I'm not really a big DMC fan, as I said. DmC's protagonist made me feel exhausted at best, the bombastic soundtrack sounded like a mess to me, and the gameplay lacked something as simple as a target lock. I found the story to be uninspired at the best of times. I'm not saying other people need to dislike it because I do, but this game feels like a black mark to me. And it couldn't even carry Bayonetta's purse.
 

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At the very least, the inevitable sequel might be a little better. I hope Ninja Theory learned from their mistakes and improve on them, who knows, I might even be interested in it.
 

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TehCookie said:
Rawne1980 said:
TehCookie said:
Well I think I spent more time on this than I needed too, but if I missed anything feel free to say so.
Don't hold back Cookie, tell us how you really feel?
All I feel is rage.

Oh and since some people here never heard of Operation Crazy here's the layout:
[http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/blackkittycat15/Forum%20Posts/1358896518203.jpg]
Row row, fight da powa! #THE DEMONS ARE COMING
isn't this, like, the exact damn thing that the sonic fans did?
and that everybody laughed their asses off at them for it?
 

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teh_Canape said:
TehCookie said:
Rawne1980 said:
TehCookie said:
Well I think I spent more time on this than I needed too, but if I missed anything feel free to say so.
Don't hold back Cookie, tell us how you really feel?
All I feel is rage.

Oh and since some people here never heard of Operation Crazy here's the layout:
[http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/blackkittycat15/Forum%20Posts/1358896518203.jpg]
Row row, fight da powa! #THE DEMONS ARE COMING
isn't this, like, the exact damn thing that the sonic fans did?
and that everybody laughed their asses off at them for it?
I haven't paid attention to sonic since the sega days. Either that or they failed, while the PS3 DMCHD is above DmC on amazon last time I checked. Besides DMC fans are still being laughed at for giving money to a company that screwed them over, but as the image says even if it fails you still get to enjoy a great game. Though being laughed at is a lot better than being insulted.
 

teh_Canape

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TehCookie said:
teh_Canape said:
TehCookie said:
Rawne1980 said:
TehCookie said:
Well I think I spent more time on this than I needed too, but if I missed anything feel free to say so.
Don't hold back Cookie, tell us how you really feel?
All I feel is rage.

Oh and since some people here never heard of Operation Crazy here's the layout:
[http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/blackkittycat15/Forum%20Posts/1358896518203.jpg]
Row row, fight da powa! #THE DEMONS ARE COMING
isn't this, like, the exact damn thing that the sonic fans did?
and that everybody laughed their asses off at them for it?
I haven't paid attention to sonic since the sega days. Either that or they failed, while the PS3 DMCHD is above DmC on amazon last time I checked. Besides DMC fans are still being laughed at for giving money to a company that screwed them over, but as the image says even if it fails you still get to enjoy a great game. Though being laughed at is a lot better than being insulted.
maybe you didn't, but the movement is indeed the same
when the sonic fans decided to "teach Sega a lesson" by not purchasing Sonic 4 and instead purchasing Sonic 1 off the store (XBLA and PSN)
boy where they mocked and laughed at XD
 

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teh_Canape said:
TehCookie said:
I haven't paid attention to sonic since the sega days. Either that or they failed, while the PS3 DMCHD is above DmC on amazon last time I checked. Besides DMC fans are still being laughed at for giving money to a company that screwed them over, but as the image says even if it fails you still get to enjoy a great game. Though being laughed at is a lot better than being insulted.
maybe you didn't, but the movement is indeed the same
when the sonic fans decided to "teach Sega a lesson" by not purchasing Sonic 4 and instead purchasing Sonic 1 off the store (XBLA and PSN)
boy where they mocked and laughed at XD
Like I said I haven't paid attention to Sonic since the Sega days, so was this before or after Sonic Generations? Though I think you miss the point, it's not to teach the publisher a lesson, it's to try to tell them what you want. If they were actually trying to teach them a lesson by throwing money at them I'd laugh at them too.
 

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TehCookie said:
from what I gather, it's exactly the same thing
and I typed "teach them a lesson" because I couldn't find the proper words, but the point was to show them what they really want (Sonic like the genesis days rather than modern 2D sonic)
and it was when Sonic 4 was coming out, like... right after Unleashed I think?

but it was just a little something I wanted to point out
haven't played the DMC series in a while (last I played was a bit of 4, then before that 3 almost all the way on PC and keyboard only (yes I was a masochist)) and I've yet to play the new one, so I don't really have a say on this =P
 

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teh_Canape said:
TehCookie said:
from what I gather, it's exactly the same thing
and I typed "teach them a lesson" because I couldn't find the proper words, but the point was to show them what they really want (Sonic like the genesis days rather than modern 2D sonic)
and it was when Sonic 4 was coming out, like... right after Unleashed I think?

but it was just a little something I wanted to point out
haven't played the DMC series in a while (last I played was a bit of 4, then before that 3 almost all the way on PC and keyboard only (yes I was a masochist)) and I've yet to play the new one, so I don't really have a say on this =P
I didn't bring any consoles with me to my college apartment so I'm stuck with the PC port. It isn't bad though. Makes jump canceling easier. Everything else, not so much~