DmC: Devil May Cry - Honest Opinions

[hermes]

I just remember when I could do awesome stuff like these commonly. The old ones had such a seamless style to them.

This game just feels like it's trying way too hard to be cool. It kind of reminds me of that 14 year old who draws swastikas on his desk, purposely tries to laugh as loud as he can when someone dies in a movie or something, and makes sure to say the opposite opinion of whoever is in earshot.

You knew those kinds of kids. We all did.

That is kind of funny, because that was exactly what I thought every time Dante opened his mouth in any cutscene in DMC 3: "These guys is trying too hard to make it look cool"; although not in the same way. Whether new Dante is "hipster cool", old Dante was "90s cool".

 

[llew]

I'm really glad I'm not a fan of Devil May Cry... Cause I really wouldn't want to be associated in any way with the people out there bitching about this new game and all its supposed sins... The behavior of some of the "fans" really has been far FAR worse than anything I've seen from Ninja Theory.


Seriously people, amend your attitude.

Being a fan of the originals who could not give a flying fuck about the reboot, i have to say some reactions are well justified in that the director (Taneem or something, i forget) of ninja theory did quite literally call us "whiny, entitled morons who should get over it" when we said that the new dante looks more like a drug addict than a half-demon badass

 

[Rawne1980]

Well I think I spent more time on this than I needed too, but if I missed anything feel free to say so.

Don't hold back Cookie, tell us how you really feel?

 

[TehCookie]

Well I think I spent more time on this than I needed too, but if I missed anything feel free to say so.

Don't hold back Cookie, tell us how you really feel?

All I feel is rage.

Oh and since some people here never heard of Operation Crazy here's the layout:

[http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/blackkittycat15/Forum%20Posts/1358896518203.jpg]
Row row, fight da powa! #THE DEMONS ARE COMING

 

[TehCookie]

snip

*opens Steam - preorders DMC*

FIGHT DA POWA!!!

I really want to see this game succeed. Just so that this fanoutrage continues!

DMC? I thought it showed in the image greenmangaming was cheaper.

If you mean DmC, why am I mad you wasted $50?

 

[King Billi]

I'm really glad I'm not a fan of Devil May Cry... Cause I really wouldn't want to be associated in any way with the people out there bitching about this new game and all its supposed sins... The behavior of some of the "fans" really has been far FAR worse than anything I've seen from Ninja Theory.


Seriously people, amend your attitude.

Being a fan of the originals who could not give a flying fuck about the reboot, i have to say some reactions are well justified in that the director (Taneem or something, i forget) of ninja theory did quite literally call us "whiny, entitled morons who should get over it" when we said that the new dante looks more like a drug addict than a half-demon badass

Yeah I have heard that... I was even given a link to mister Antoniade's Twitter account to see an example of it and I've got to say after looking over a fair amount of his tweets I'm even less convinced that these reactions are justified... All I saw was a man who has a great deal of pride and respect in what he has created, is generally polite to those who aren't insulting or threatening him and who dosen't take any crap from "fans" who attack him personally with excessively hateful comments and threats(of which I read several!)

All I really have left to say is that those who do legitimately hate DmC and seriously wish for it to go away should direct their attention to the aforementioned "Operation Crazy" and support that, get behind what you actually love and contribute to something positive instead of fueling the hate.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

I just remember when I could do awesome stuff like these commonly. The old ones had such a seamless style to them.

This game just feels like it's trying way too hard to be cool. It kind of reminds me of that 14 year old who draws swastikas on his desk, purposely tries to laugh as loud as he can when someone dies in a movie or something, and makes sure to say the opposite opinion of whoever is in earshot.

You knew those kinds of kids. We all did.

That is kind of funny, because that was exactly what I thought every time Dante opened his mouth in any cutscene in DMC 3: "These guys is trying too hard to make it look cool"; although not in the same way. Whether new Dante is "hipster cool", old Dante was "90s cool".

No, Nu-Dante is the definition of 90s cool. Mean-spirited, sweary, grungy, "gritty", and tries to be cool but comes off as an insecure douchebag. Dante actually had more in common with a 70s rockstar; he was flamboyant, over-the-top, charismatic, and had a sense of humor.

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

The thing is, it doesn't matter what the rest of the game is like because they've turned Dante from an interesting, confident, unique badass into the persona of the worst kind of gamers. It pains me to think this is what gaming companies think players relate to. It scares me more that they're partially right.

Yeah, right, because his previous handsome, athlete, unstoppable badass super warrior persona was SO MUCH MORE relatable.

Bottom line is, this game isn't worth $60, and Ninja Theory should have known that. When you're developing a new game in a well known series, your primary concern should be "will this satisfy our existing fanbase".

What the fuck were these guys thinking?

Dev #1: "Hey guys, let's make a new Devil May Cry game, just like the previous ones!"
Dev #2: "Umm, if we do that, the fans will just accuse us of rehashing the same game. We don't want to be Call of Duty, do we?"
Dev #1: "Alright, how about we redesign the character a bit and try to shake things up a little?"
Dev# 2: "Fair enough"

After the fan reaction to the new character design:

Dev #1: "Goddammit, why didn't you warn me about the raving fans? Now we've got to redesign the game and characters!"
Dev #2: "How could I have known? Plus, if we redesign it now, the fans will just complain about how we don't stand by our decisions and call us cowards"
Dev #1: "Okay... so we're fucked either way. Let's just try to roll with this one"
Dev #2: "Fair enough"

I think I've come up with a solution. Supply the game with two different audio tracks, where one has the characters called by their original names and on the other something else. Supply the game with a flippable cover which says something else on the front. Then have the player pick a choice before the game opening screen:
1. Choose to play DMC, a reboot which everyone hates, with a redesigned main character called Dante
2. Choose to play Crazy Pizza Pie adventure, a new hack'n'slash IP from Capcom where a new character called Captain Oregano must fight the armies of heaven and hell with his brother, Lieutenant Olivebranch.

Whichever you pick, the title screen will either say DMC or Crazy Pizza Pie adventure and have the according audio track.

 

[TehCookie]

DMC? I thought it showed in the image greenmangaming was cheaper.

If you mean DmC, why am I mad you wasted $50?

I mean the new DmC, that is going to release tomorrow in my area. And I did not waste a single dollar - because I don't pay in dollars! *bwahahaha*

Nah, I find this game actually appealing unlike the previous ones - I find it hard to find fun in games where 'important' part of the series are not on my platform of choice. Now I stand before DmC that is actually best on PC (no FPS limit for example), characterdesign I find more appealing and visuals that seem to look really good... Why not get it?

DMC3 and 4 are on PC, and while 3's port is horrible 4 is better on PC than the consoles. Depending on who you ask which one is better is a back and forth (though a lot say 3 since it's a complete game, those who play for the combat prefer 4 for it's improvements).

Also I already said this in the beginning but unlocking frames doesn't change animations or windows. However being a DmC fan you probably don't care about the gameplay.

 

[TehCookie]

I find it hard to find fun in games where 'important' part of the series are not on my platform of choice.

DMC3 and 4 are on PC, and while 3's port is horrible 4 is better on PC than the consoles. Depending on who you ask which one is better is a back and forth (though a lot say 3 since it's a complete game, those who play for the combat prefer 4 for it's improvements).

So you made my point: Entry number 3 and number 4 are ported to the PC... So I don't give a rats ass about the main series.

And yes, I am the fanatic here... Please don't call me that, I have no strong feelings towards DmC and I'm just enjoying all those tears of rage and hate that flow through all this threads. Up until your picture I wouldn't even have picked it up outside of a sale.

But DmC isn't avaliable for the Wii either...

You said it wasn't on your platform of choice, when the important games are on PS3, 360 and PC. The only point you proved is you are willing waste money to attempt to make someone angry on the internet. Which is completely silly, but you even did a poor job at that. Anyone can say they preordered it, if you really want to make someone mad post a picture to prove it or claim you're 12 and Donte is mature because he says fuck you and the writing is Shakespearean. Also it's The Escapist, I know people having terrible taste on here.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

So you made my point: Entry number 3 and number 4 are ported to the PC... So I don't give a rats ass about the main series.

DMC 4 isn't a bad game. You should get it on PC. It's probably very cheap now since it was released in 2008. You'll have a lot of fun with it. And the graphics are still sweet. It's a very colorful game. Seriously, go for it. Even if you don't care about the story it's still a good amount of fun for a small amount of money.

 

[danon]

Thanks ninja theory for making me save money by destroying good franchises. It wasn't enough by just destroying metroid was it?

 

[Kitsune Hunter]

Thanks ninja theory for making me save money by destroying good franchises. It wasn't enough by just destroying metroid was it?

Actually it was Team Ninja that made Other M, not Ninja Theory, Fail. Seriously if you're going to criticize Ninja Theory, at least get your facts right first

 

[llew]

Being a fan of the originals who could not give a flying fuck about the reboot, i have to say some reactions are well justified in that the director (Taneem or something, i forget) of ninja theory did quite literally call us "whiny, entitled morons who should get over it" when we said that the new dante looks more like a drug addict than a half-demon badass

I would really like to see the source of this 'literal' quote.

it was a long time ago i saw it so i cant be arsed to go find it but he has done several comments like that along the development of DmC

 

[llew]

I'm really glad I'm not a fan of Devil May Cry... Cause I really wouldn't want to be associated in any way with the people out there bitching about this new game and all its supposed sins... The behavior of some of the "fans" really has been far FAR worse than anything I've seen from Ninja Theory.


Seriously people, amend your attitude.

Being a fan of the originals who could not give a flying fuck about the reboot, i have to say some reactions are well justified in that the director (Taneem or something, i forget) of ninja theory did quite literally call us "whiny, entitled morons who should get over it" when we said that the new dante looks more like a drug addict than a half-demon badass

Yeah I have heard that... I was even given a link to mister Antoniade's Twitter account to see an example of it and I've got to say after looking over a fair amount of his tweets I'm even less convinced that these reactions are justified... All I saw was a man who has a great deal of pride and respect in what he has created, is generally polite to those who aren't insulting or threatening him and who dosen't take any crap from "fans" who attack him personally with excessively hateful comments and threats(of which I read several!)

All I really have left to say is that those who do legitimately hate DmC and seriously wish for it to go away should direct their attention to the aforementioned "Operation Crazy" and support that, get behind what you actually love and contribute to something positive instead of fueling the hate.

already have done my part for OC and am still loving it, if the guy really wanted to win over the fans who disagreed with the new design he shouldnt have been a child and responded by calling all of the fans (yes it was directed at all the fans by my memory) idiots or worse and been a massive cock about where he was taking DmC. The only issue i have with the thing is that it is using the DmC name as a selling point and changed almost everything else (much like dmc 2 did)
also i said SOME reactions were justfied, some were simply outrageous

 

[danon]

Thanks ninja theory for making me save money by destroying good franchises. It wasn't enough by just destroying metroid was it?

Actually it was Team Ninja that made Other M, not Ninja Theory, Fail. Seriously if you're going to criticize Ninja Theory, at least get your facts right first

Oops sry about that they have only destroyed 1 franchise each so far.