DmC: Devil May Cry - Honest Opinions

[aguspal]

Great game. I can understand that not everyone likes it and why old school fans may not, although saying that I've bought every DMC game on release since the first one so I guess I am a old school fan. But seriously, it's not new, we've known about it since 2010 now, all the hate is just pathetic, move on. This game isn't evil and it's not the cause of all the worlds ills, but the way some people are acting it's as if NT and DmC came round to their house and stamped on all their toys.

Anddddd I finally looked thougt a few videos of this epic game with equally epic gameplay such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuj05upk73I

Oh golly, he found a glitch!

Though the music has to become ingame music...

A rather terrible semi game-breaking one at that. Especially since, for what I heard about the series anyways, the bosses are one of the best parts of those kind of games.

Still I rather prefer to be somewhat neutral. But even then I can see the faults this game has... but I dont care, its HILARIOUS.

 

[Tohuvabohu]

Anddddd I finally looked thougt a few videos of this epic game with equally epic gameplay such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuj05upk73I


As someone who has never/barely played (I did play the first three levels or so of DMC3) the DMC series, this is just WOW. Epic battle, I had no clue who was going to win until the end.

Oh god. I need MORE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS GAME

That reminds me. During my time playing the game, I encounter all kinds of occasional bugs with enemies.

Some get stuck in the environment.
Some freeze altogether, this seems to happen to the fat-baby enemies the most. But it's happened at least once with every enemy I encounter.
Teleporting enemies who get caught in teleporting loops (happens a lot when I knock them off the level)
Some seem to forget they're in the middle of a fight and stand around doing nothing.
And a rare glitch I've had involves knocking enemies off the levels, who vanish into the void without dying and leaving me unable to exit the area I'm in.

I wish I was recording a video in one instance when I activated Devil Trigger (which sends every enemy up into the air) and launched one of those big saw golems upwards, and then got stuck inside an awning. His weakpoint was facing towards the wall and merged into it, making him impossible to kill.

Every time I play, something glitches at least once. Most of the time it's harmless, but it still makes me facepalm. It's embarrassing.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Is "the game looks great" a big selling point still? Games look better and better with each year. You might bring up graphics in a review if they're inordinately bad but if they're good that's more or less to be expected, technological advances considered. There's a steady trend towards realism in both lightning and overall design in this kind of games. So, graphics/visuals I could care less for. They never made a bad game good.

 

[King Billi]

Is "the game looks great" a big selling point still? Games look better and better with each year. You might bring up graphics in a review if they're inordinately bad but if they're good that's more or less to be expected, technological advances considered. There's a steady trend towards realism in both lightning and overall design in this kind of games. So, graphics/visuals I could care less for. They never made a bad game good.

I wouldn't say it should be a selling point but I do personally appreciate a certain level of care and imagination when it comes to a games graphics and overall design. If a game has a keen attention to detail and goes beyond merely using aesthetics that are functional in order to create something wholly unique and interesting then I feel some degree of acknowledgement is deserved.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

The story is laughable at best. That's just what the world wanted, an angsty stupid emo tween version of the beloved classic.

But I want the old super flamboyant Dante back! He was stupid and different and kinda weirdly endearing!
This guy's just a boring emo fuck.

OK, genuine ire at this, how exactly is new Dante emo? Because whenever I hear that bullshit attempt to knock the new design, dialogue, hairstyle all I hear is "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIIIIGGGHHHHHHTT"

Its a game about how a white haired man in a redcoat can cry, fucking get over yourselves!

OT: I actually played it, combat is good (but too easy), platforming is no longer 20 foot vertical leap you figure out the rest and there is an actual plot rather than 'Dante turns up somewhere and fights things' so, y'know... it isn't DMC 2.

Geezus, I actually liked the old Dante but whenever someone calls the new one emo I retroactively want to punch the original in every game for starting this...

He may not be emo but he's still a self-involved, mean-spirited, witless douchebag. Seriously, when your hero is completely insufferable you've failed as a writer

 

[Pulse]

Personally, when it comes to a hack and slash:

I don't care about the story
I don't care about character "arcs"
I don't mind what the character looks like, especially the colour of their hair
All that matters is the gameplay...

Ninja gaiden 3 bombed big time, be thankful it's nowhere near that bad.
DMC looks passable fun
Bayonetta 2 is going on the wiiU......
MGS rising still look promising

I'll wait and see what MGS is like, if not I'll get it off ebay.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

He may not be emo but he's still a self-involved, mean-spirited, witless douchebag. Seriously, when your hero is completely insufferable you've failed as a writer

He is a douchebag. Immature douchebag. Old Dante is a fun guy. Someone you could hang out with and have a beer. He may not be very mature either, but he is charismatic. Charisma is important. This Dante is a fuckin' 4chan douchebag with 0 charisma.

 

[TehCookie]

A rather terrible semi game-breaking one at that. Especially since, for what I heard about the series anyways, the bosses are one of the best parts of those kind of games.

Still I rather prefer to be somewhat neutral. But even then I can see the faults this game has... but I dont care, its HILARIOUS.

There are plenty more bugs than that.

Spoiler

EDIT:
And another video I just found

These are legitimate criticisms from someone who so clearly loves this series and I can certainly respect your postion now that I know the specifics of your complaints, you obviously care for this whole series more than I do.

The main issue I take with alot of the other criticisms I've heard is that they have take it personally and make out that Ninja Theory hates them and is trying to destroy their beloved franchise.

Do you hear that form DMC fans or from the media saying that's what the DMC fans think? All the DMC fans I know are trying to say why they don't like it but are blown off as haters who don't like his hair even when they give reasons. If you did encounter one of the people who hate them for his hair, every fanbase has their bad apples and please do not think the rest of the fans are like that.

Part of the hate towards Ninja theory is the fact Tameem is acting like a dick to them and insulting the old Dante and is completely full of himself. This is how he response to a tiny bit or criticism https://twitter.com/superninjatam/status/270958085982523396 I want to clarify I'm not justifying the DMC fans hate towards them, I'm just saying why it exists.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

As a fan of Devil May Cry I can tell you all that hatred towards this abomination has nothing to do with Dante's hair color. If this was a true prequel and they wanted to make Dante still have some type of Devil Trigger before actually awakening his demonic powers, then making him have a default black hair at some point in his life is not a bad idea. However, breaking the lore and characters as much as they did is worthy of hatred. I don't want to see a sequel to this piece of shit. I want to see a sequel to DMC 4.
This game should be treated as an isolated incident.

 

[kazann]

Only person that likes the new Dante checking in.

Only? I doubt that - I can't really dislike a look that I myself have (oh gosh, he has a decent haircut!!! what an emo!).

It's not the look that i dislike, it's his unlikeable personality. It's as if they mistook "badass" for "asshole" while coming up with him. It's not a good sign if the atagonist of the game is more relateable and likeable than the protagonist (apart from the heart eating maybe).

Asshole sounds like fun, really. I like his "unlikeable" personality for some reason... Maybe because im not a huge dmc fan and can see that the series is actually rather a shallow hack and slash game...

 

[King Billi]

These are legitimate criticisms from someone who so clearly loves this series and I can certainly respect your postion now that I know the specifics of your complaints, you obviously care for this whole series more than I do.

The main issue I take with alot of the other criticisms I've heard is that they have take it personally and make out that Ninja Theory hates them and is trying to destroy their beloved franchise.

Do you hear that form DMC fans or from the media saying that's what the DMC fans think? All the DMC fans I know are trying to say why they don't like it but are blown off as haters who don't like his hair even when they give reasons. If you did encounter one of the people who hate them for his hair, every fanbase has their bad apples and please do not think the rest of the fans are like that.

Part of the hate towards Ninja theory is the fact Tameem is acting like a dick to them and insulting the old Dante and is completely full of himself. This is how he response to a tiny bit or criticism https://twitter.com/superninjatam/status/270958085982523396 I want to clarify I'm not justifying the DMC fans hate towards them, I'm just saying why it exists.

I've read alot of criticisms recently on this very thread from very intelligent, reasonable people and I can certainly respect their opinion and understand their issues with this game, but it doesn't change the fact that the loudest voices out there right now appear to be coming from the "bad apples" who have nothing constructive to offer besides pure contempt and derision.

To me DmC is a perfectly decent game and alot of fun to play and I don't feel that the original games are in any way degraded by this games existence, I mean come on... "New Dante" and "True Dante" couldn't ever be mistaken for being the same person could they? In fact the whole design and tone of DmC has been so far removed from what the original series was that the only thing they have in common now is the name... And in my opinion there's nothing in a name... even one as revered as Devil May Cry.

 

[aguspal]

A rather terrible semi game-breaking one at that. Especially since, for what I heard about the series anyways, the bosses are one of the best parts of those kind of games.

Still I rather prefer to be somewhat neutral. But even then I can see the faults this game has... but I dont care, its HILARIOUS.

There are plenty more bugs than that.

Spoiler

OMFG.


Thank you I will watch them tomorrow thougt because bed is calling me

 

[TehCookie]

I've read alot of criticisms recently on this very thread from very intelligent, reasonable people and I can certainly respect their opinion and understand their issues with this game, but it doesn't change the fact that the loudest voices out there right now appear to be coming from the "bad apples" who have nothing constructive to offer besides pure contempt and derision.

Hating the game doesn't make one a bad apple as long as they have reasons. The thing is legitimate complaints are being written off by DmC fans as a "You don't like the hair!" Next time pay attention to some of the haters and see if it's blind hate or educated hate. There are a lot of stupid people in the world and I don't know where you go so it very well could be blind hate, but don't write it off all hate like that.

Since I don't go to other news sites much did any of the DMC fans there mention Operation Crazy? Where the old fans are trying to boost the sales of the HD collection to let Capcom know that is what they want instead of the reboot (Look at the top 100 games on Amazon, DMCHD is above DmC. Actually when I just checked DmC is no longer on the list but DMCHD still it.)

 

[AgentCooper]

I picked up the new DmC on release day. I managed to beat the game in a couple of sittings. I really enjoyed it and found the combat really fun and I would like to see where Ninja Theory takes the story next. That is assuming a sequel happens.

 

[lapan]

Only person that likes the new Dante checking in.

Only? I doubt that - I can't really dislike a look that I myself have (oh gosh, he has a decent haircut!!! what an emo!).

It's not the look that i dislike, it's his unlikeable personality. It's as if they mistook "badass" for "asshole" while coming up with him. It's not a good sign if the atagonist of the game is more relateable and likeable than the protagonist (apart from the heart eating maybe).

Asshole sounds like fun, really. I like his "unlikeable" personality for some reason... Maybe because im not a huge dmc fan and can see that the series is actually rather a shallow hack and slash game...

For me personally he crosses several lines, but I guess different people have different tastes.

Meanwhile Mundus is keeping world peace and is overall less of an asshole.

Spoiler: Ending spoilers

Dante and Vergil kidnap his pregnant wife, murder the baby and her. After Mundus is defeated they open the gates of hell and the game ends on an open end, the world worse off than before and Vergil still out there wanting to take Mundus's place

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

He may not be emo but he's still a self-involved, mean-spirited, witless douchebag. Seriously, when your hero is completely insufferable you've failed as a writer

He is a douchebag. Immature douchebag. Old Dante is a fun guy. Someone you could hang out with and have a beer. He may not be very mature either, but he is charismatic. Charisma is important. This Dante is a fuckin' 4chan douchebag with 0 charisma.

Right, so fun story, I have a number of friends who use the exact words you just did to describe the old Dante, mostly going off the Devil May Cry 3/4 openings. Commanding two sentient swords not to talk for the rest of their existence(assuming he doesn't chuck them?) Mean-spirited Douchebag. Refusing to explain WHY he just stabbed a guy in the chest and instead fighting a guy trying to do the right thing? Self involved douchebag. You can dislike new dante for that reason but it's disingenuous when the old one wasn't miles better

From how the game plays out (because you've not played it, I imagine), it has the pleasent bonus of a love interest who ISN'T a genetic clone of his mother and who he priorities over killing Mundus, he actually has a minor dilemma about straight up killing his own brother and appears to have a motivation to fight the demons other than cos it's awesome. And he doesn't cry or get impaled on his sword. Always a plus.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

For me personally he crosses several lines, but I guess different people have different tastes.

Meanwhile Mundus is keeping world peace and is overall less of an asshole.

Spoiler: Ending spoilers

Dante and Vergil kidnap his pregnant wife, murder the baby and her. After Mundus is defeated they open the gates of hell and the game ends on an open end, the world worse off than before and Vergil still out there wanting to take Mundus's place

Yeah, but given most of the f*ck up is because Vergil isn't really doing the right thing, I wouldn't call it Dante being an asshole.

Spoiler

Like how Dante was going to trade the pregnant wife for Kat, he even said as much to her, VERGIL straight up killed her and the kid. And Mundus small monologue about how Dante really hasn't done anything heroic did at least make him stop and think before soldiering on and playing up his douchebag tendencies to get a reaction out of the Demon King so Vergil could 'cut him off from the Hell gate' which to me didn't sound like 'trap a load of demons on earth' so I can understand his confusion when it DID happen. Problem with revolutions is it never ends the way you wanted it to.

 

[King Billi]

Since I don't go to other news sites much did any of the DMC fans there mention Operation Crazy? Where the old fans are trying to boost the sales of the HD collection to let Capcom know that is what they want instead of the reboot (Look at the top 100 games on Amazon, DMCHD is above DmC. Actually when I just checked DmC is no longer on the list but DMCHD still it.)

I've never heard of this before now but it sounds great! I honestly hope this can get the fans point across to Capcom or whoever... It's always better to show support and admiration for the things you love then obsess over what you hate.

 

[RadioactiveMicrobe]

I just remember when I could do awesome stuff like these commonly. The old ones had such a seamless style to them.

This game just feels like it's trying way too hard to be cool. It kind of reminds me of that 14 year old who draws swastikas on his desk, purposely tries to laugh as loud as he can when someone dies in a movie or something, and makes sure to say the opposite opinion of whoever is in earshot.

You knew those kinds of kids. We all did.

 

[hermes]

The thing is, it doesn't matter what the rest of the game is like because they've turned Dante from an interesting, confident, unique badass into the persona of the worst kind of gamers. It pains me to think this is what gaming companies think players relate to. It scares me more that they're partially right.

Dante looks and acts like a self-entitled homeroom cut-up. I'm surprised his special attacks don't involve him fondling cheerleaders at parties against their will and trying to sneak into movies without being caught.

I'd rather actually play a game where the protagonist is a literal log of feces than endure the sexist, masochistic garbage that is this reboot.

This is what confuses me about fan reaction to the game. The only game where Dante has had any kind of character arc was the first. We learned more about him and he showed some kind of emotion. In 2, he was a miserable and silent "badass" all the way through. In 3 all Dante needed to get was his Devil Trigger. Apart from that, he remained the same cocky yet entertaining person throughout. 4 was all over the place, I think by then Capcom had actually started to use him as a parody of himself.

At least in this iteration he has grounded reasons for living the way he lives and changes gradually as he finds himself to be accepted by his brother and human friend.

I'm not a fan of the games so if my reaction is the same as the 'fan' reaction then it is merely coincidental shared viewpoint.

I don't know the rules on posting links, but in this instance, it is the fastest way to prove my point.

http://www.gamewallpapers.com/previews_480x300/wallpaper_dmc_devil_may_cry_02.jpg


That horse shit is everything wrong with gaming "culture" today and dumb rebooted Dante is right there in the middle of it. I don't want any part of this hypermasculinized crap trash. Regardless of the arc old Dante had, he wasn't conceived as a foul-mouthed high school hard-on jughead. We need characters like Jade from Beyond Good and Evil. We need characters like Lee and Clementine. We need characters that don't set gaming back a year every time they open their mouths for a line of dimwitted dialogue.

So, your point is that we don't need any Devil May Cry at all, because the other ones were not much better:
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/588/588735/devil-may-cry-3-dantes-awakening-20050217061802396-000.jpg
http://fotos.subefotos.com/1783f4ba0067a549cd5ee34546c1a26fo.jpg

Got it.