Do people not realize games aren't $60?

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Danny Dowling

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You're right. Order will retail in the UK for £45, that's more like $69.50. The game is not $60, it's $69.50, the more you know.
 

Creator002

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I realise that games aren't $60. That's because they're usually $100.
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi, oi, oi!

Digital games are still full price and you can't resell them. On top of that, digital seems to be the way the world is going, even console-wise. I only have 2 games for my Xbox One on disc. Watch Dogs, because it was cheaper than digital (by ~$70) and GTA V (I don't remember why). My friend only has his sports games on disc and that's because he trades them in each year for the next. Otherwise, he'd be all digital too.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
All of this stupid is The Order 1886 worth $60 discussion is pointless because the game isn't going to cost you $60. Say you beat the game in 5.5 hours after paying $60 and say you hated it or loved the shit out it but you'd never replay it. Well...

ProTip: you can fucking sell the game!!!

If you buy the game on release and beat it over the weekend. You're going to be able to get at least $40 for it if you sell it. Thus, the game only costs you $20. I'm going to buy it (since I'm in the mood for a game like The Order) from Target as you get a $20 PSN card for $5 more. The game + $5 more + tax = ~$70. Then take off $15 immediately due to the PSN card, which brings the cost to $55. Then, if you sell for $40 after playing it, it only cost $15 total. What's the point of waiting for a game to drop to $30, $20, or whatever when you can play it now for that price?

The real question:
Is The Order 1886 worth $15-$20?
I don't want to rent my 8 hour games with little replay value for 20$. You can buy both civ 4: BTS and FTL for that money and those games are fun for 100s of hours and I don't need to sell them again. How about this deal: I pay a fixed, reasonable amount of money and get a game in return which I can then play whenever I want to. If The Order: 1886 doesn't have that deal, I'm not buying it. I'll just pick up five longer, better games for it's price with the next steam sale. I'm not sure what it matters to you anyway. (you seem a bit worked up in your post) Why is the way I choose to spend or not spend my money your concern? Do you have a vested interest in The Order being played or sold a lot?
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
Barbas said:
Most AAA games I comes across nowadays - whether digital or physical - can only be activated and played on one device, because they require Steam, Origin or uPlay. That means there's not really much of an incentive to get them on or near launch day, when they are traditionally at their most expensive. There's no resale value to count on there and they're unlikely to work as required. If I buy via GreenManGaming, I can get maybe a 25% discount a while after launch day. Otherwise, I wait until Steam sales.
That is one of the many reasons I barely PC game. Most PC gamers love to point out that you can build a more powerful PC for the same price of a console but they always fail to factor in the much cheaper console game prices. I don't have to wait to play a game, I can go out and buy it day 1 if I want and pay the same price as someone waiting for the price to drop.
Actually here in Australia, console games have always been more expensive than their PC versions...

A quick google to EB Games Australia (our version of gamestop) shows me these results

GTA V is $10 cheaper on PC than on console

Project Cars is $10 cheaper on PC then on console

Finally, Watch Dogs (a terrible game evident by the reviews and massive price drop)

$46 on PS4, $35 on Xbone and $28 on PC

I don't have to go out to buy my games either, I buy it, download and install it in an hour and play. Not only do I save compared to console prices, I also save during sales.
 

shrekfan246

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I mean, way to stick to your convictions, OP. At least you've got that going for you.

But I'd like to point out that, even if you're planning on reselling your game, you still need $60 + tax to actually purchase it in the first place. So, by actual metrics of economics, yeah, games are $60 (in the US). Your method is reliant on being able to resell a game and get a decent price for it, which I'm sure isn't necessarily too hard, but it's not a guarantee and you're still dropping $60 up front for the privilege of playing the game.

The way you brush off PC gamers is rather hilarious, as well. I don't like the death of physical copies either, but it's a basic fact that you're far more likely to be able to get PC games digitally than physically (and even the physical copies are dependent on digital DRM), and a large number of people--myself included--prefer to play games on the PC rather than on consoles.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Phoenixmgs said:
What's the point of waiting for a game to drop to $30, $20, or whatever when you can play it now for that price?
Because you get to own it for $20 instead of renting it for $20. Some people like their game collections.
 

MrHide-Patten

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Oh look at the Americans complain about $60 how qauint. Australian in the thread is very Australian... ****.

In all seriousness though I just buy things from the UK and give the bird to publishers and such that think that crap slides. DLC prices are still 50 shades of shit.

Also if a game is any good, I'd like to replay it, like say how somebody can rewatch movie. If the game isn't very good, then why would I buy it in teh first place? Because you want me to?
 

lord.jeff

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So $60 to own a game or $45 to rent the same game, which would I choose? I'm gonna go with own, sure it's more expensive but I have way less bullocks to deal with. Though I've only bought two games at full price ever.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
I played Bioshock Infinite plus its Burial At Sea DLC for far less the $60 ($7 + whatever the Burial At Sea episodes costs) and I didn't wait for price drops. I pay less for games and don't wait for price drops.
OK, then, now please explain to me how I'm going to have access to that $50 (between the buying and selling). In my current financial situation, it is important to have access to every dollar I can have access to and spend my money incredibly wisely. That includes not putting a lot of money down with the hopes of getting most of it back later, because I may need it between those two times.

Not everyone can afford this plan of yours, so it is absolutely pointless to use as a reference point when discussing the price. There's other issues also, but others have already pointed them out.
 

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shrekfan246 said:
I don't like the death of physical copies either
There are some of us underground motherfuckers, PC master race represent, that continue to beef and feud with Steam and Origin and refuse their digital service. You say Lord GabeN. I say FUCK DAT! I buy 'em retail. Keepin' dat shit real and live. Legit. Strait like that.

Retail represent. RE_TAIIIL!!! Digital can suck it with the rickets.
 

Snotnarok

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Some people don't sell their games.
How about those who bought the game digitally? Well they can't sell it at all now can they?
What about those who buy the game later when it's still 60 but the game will get you 20 dollars in the shop, or less?

If you're going to say "It's your fault if you don't sell the game" that's not exactly fair now is it? Some collect games and this game did cost $60 bucks.
I know little of The Order other than the devs trying to feed everyone BS about "30 fps is more cinematic" instead of "We're pushing the system beyond what it can handle and had to compromise the way the game runs." but from what reviews have been saying it's not even worth $40 bucks
 

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Not to mention, you can go on Amazon, or if your town has a secondhand shop, and get games for crazy low prices. Even if it's just games that you skipped during that gen and feel like scraping around the bottom of the barrel.
 

josemlopes

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What you are talking about has a name, its called renting. Buying and owning does cost that price, if the person can wait it will cost less.
 

Loonyyy

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I've got an even better idea. Instead of paying however much it costs (And since I'm on PC, and Australian, that's more) for a game that doesn't look particularly good, and listening to people telling me that it's not that much, because reasons, I instead realise that my time is more valuable than a bad game, and that I am confused as to why they are trying to sell me on it. It looks like a linear Third Person Shooter. It's not exactly the second coming of fucking christ. If I, or anyone else, decides that however much is not worth it, that's not something you get to say they're wrong about, because you aren't a mind reader. It's still a loss, and it still looks like a waste of time.

I guess this is inversion of stop liking things that I don't like. Stop not liking things that I like. Buy them. Please. I promise they won't cost you much money. Or time. Or anything else you could want back from the experience of yet another console TPS. Or hell, how about whoever won't buy it that you're so upset with, why don't you just buy it for them. Then you can take your complaint directly to them, and we'll all be better for it. And you can play the game together, and grow to hate them as they rag on it. Good times.

Fortunately, the damn thing took the question out of my hands. No PC version.
 

bartholen_v1legacy

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You're right! For me, new games are actually 60 ?, which translates to roughly $68.

Yeah, because you can always trust that the game can be resold at 2/3 of its shelf price. Because it's always guaranteed that there are people who will buy your used game. Because everyone who resells games always does it immediately and not, say, 2-3 weeks later. Because everyone always buys new games at launch and not, say, 2-3 weeks later. Because the time and effort to put up a sale on, say EBay, transactions, posting and shipping don't factor into a person's willingness to put up a resale at all. Because there's no such thing as supply and demand, amirite?

The parameters by which you set your argument are so strict and limited that they just plain make your statement wrong. BTW, I hardly buy any games for more than 30? and even more rarely resell my games, but this argument is just so tunnel-visioned I had to put in my 5 cents.
 

Pyro Yuy

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Is it me or does it feel like tc is trying too hard to troll?

As a PC gamer though, I generally tend to get games on sale, and I've enough of a backlog that I don't really need to worry about not having a game to play... Or I can pick up something I know I'll play (Damn you battlefield!) at release for $30-40.