Do you believe in ghosts or the paranormal?

[Aqua Trenoble]

And i probably shouldn't have used the stress example. Stress is a really hazy word, and could refer to a lot of things. The place where i read it from (a Harvard website) said that scientists have a hard time proving that stress does anything in humans. They only had a few results from mice.

So then you have no argument that I didn't will myself healthy? Because I'm ready to drop this argument when you are.

Also T-T-Triple post! I really am awful.

 

[soulfire130]

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All I'm asking for is a scenario which is testable, such that the test arrives at the same eventuality as your supposed supernatural claim. I'm not claiming that the paranormal exists. Read any of my posts if that confuses you.


If you can't test it, it's not real.

Ok, were in any of my posts did I say you claimed that the paranormal exists? If you're talking about the counter-argument, I as guessing you would say "you're the one that claims the paranormal is real, not me. You give me testable evidence."

Look, just find a place that acually has supernatural activity. Record with a video cam multiple nights and see if anything turns up. This way the only one that could tamper with the video is you. There's your testable scenario.

There are things that have yet been tested and are so far real: dark matter. wormholes(not sure about that). the ever expanding edges of the universe.

It's 11:12 PM where I am, can we just agree to disagree?

 

[ResonanceSD]

Go to an ICU, find a person who's about to die, get your mother to Jesus them back to life. How hard can that actually be?

Lol, "Jesus them back to life"...

Even if that did happen, everyone would just assume that it was a hoax. It's nearly impossible to prove anything nowadays.

So you're admitting that what you claim is impossible to prove?

Yeah, I fucking said that twice already.

Oh good, now that we can safely toss out rational debate.

Keep this quiet, but I'm a dragon.

 

[Aqua Trenoble]

Keep this quiet, but I'm a dragon.

Awesome. Can I be a dragon, too?

 

[ResonanceSD]

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All I'm asking for is a scenario which is testable, such that the test arrives at the same eventuality as your supposed supernatural claim. I'm not claiming that the paranormal exists. Read any of my posts if that confuses you.


If you can't test it, it's not real.

Ok, were in any of my posts did I say you claimed that the paranormal exists? If you're talking about the counter-argument, I as guessing you would say "you're the one that claims the paranormal is real, not me. You give me testable evidence."

Look, just find a place that acually has supernatural activity. Record with a video cam multiple nights and see if anything turns up. This way the only one that could tamper with the video is you. There's your testable scenario.


There are things that have yet been tested and are so far real: dark matter. wormholes(not sure about that). the ever expanding edges of the universe.

It's 11:12 PM where I am, can we just agree to disagree?

I've seen that movie, it was rubbish


And I'm not about to go wasting my time. I'm not trying to prove the paranormal exists. I maintain that if someone makes a claim, they can go and prove it, rather than put the burden of proof on the guy calling hokum.

 

[Burst6]

Also the person with the problem isn't a good judge of how well they are recovering. Could be that you were recovering all that time but you just couldn't feel it.

Who else would be a good judge of how well someone is recovering?? I had a bad cough and a tight chest, and it was commonly agreed that neither of those symptoms were improving at all. I wasn't recovering at all with any natural solutions my parents gave me.

Because what you feel isn't exact. It's just an approximation that your brain perceives, and how much you feel isn't only dependent on what's actually wrong with you. The only accurate way to tell is to check using medical strategies.



Also natural solutions have a reputation of not working at all. Remember, people devote their entire lives to fixing these kinds of problems. They make medicine that is specific and contains the right amount of chemicals that help your body without hurting it. They spend a lot of money on research and make a lot of sacrifices. If there existed simple solutions that did the same thing, doctors would have started using them a long time ago.

And i probably shouldn't have used the stress example. Stress is a really hazy word, and could refer to a lot of things. The place where i read it from (a Harvard website) said that scientists have a hard time proving that stress does anything in humans. They only had a few results from mice.

So then you have no argument that I didn't will myself healthy? Because I'm ready to drop this argument when you are.

Also T-T-Triple post! I really am awful.

No my argument still stays at the coincidence thing.

And yeah lets drop this argument. I need to go to sleep. Just remember, coincidence doesnt equal low chance. Some coincidences have a very good chance of happening.

 

[floopdawoop]

I want to believe. Unfortunately I've never seen anything to persuade me to.

 

[TheMariner]

Well, I believe in angels so it would be kind of odd if I didn't acknowledge demons as well right? Good cannot exist without evil and whatnot.

 

[Ftaghn To You Too]

I once believed in it.

Then I turned ten. *Ba-dum-tsch*

Actually, I do not believe in it unless I have seen it with my own two eyes AND there is a reasonable scientific possibility of it existing. There are quite a few people who are not crazy or stupid who believe in it by their own experience, but most likely they are wrong. We don't know everything, so the door is always open.

 

[Aqua Trenoble]

Okay, if everyone is done talking to me or at least can save their objections until tomorrow afternoon? I have to be in a play twice tomorrow so I really need to be unconscious now.

Kthxbai.

 

[badgersprite]

No, but it's cool to pretend or imagine. In essence, part of me wishes there were some truth to it and likes these kinds of theories purely as entertainment value, but I know it's entirely false without a shadow of a doubt. It's fiction, but there's fun in it as long as you don't take it too seriously and can have a bit of a laugh at those who do.

 

[Patrick Dare]

This explains pretty well why any personal experiences cannot be used as evidence.

 

[Aprilgold]

I don't believe in them because I don't believe in religion. Theres a reason to all of the accidents that they say happen, but they never, REALLY did.

 

[tipp6353]

I think sometimes that when people die a violent death or die young they tend to stay on this earth, like my grandmothers old house with the barn next to it, I seen a lady early 20s,blonde hair, blue dress and a bonnet dangling from the rafters in the barn by a noose, the site was very very eerie for me.

 

[Rofl-Mayo]

I believe in the stuff. I've fiddled around with Ouija boards but I can't seem to get them working though. And I'm not sure if Demonology falls under this category but I've looked into that too.

If anyone actually has used a Ouija board and knows what they're doing can you please message me some tips. It would be much appreciated.

CAPTCHA: Imustact THE

 

[Mouse_Crouse]

My mother's prices are perfectly reasonable compared to what doctors charge for their cures, especially since the doctor's methods don't even goddamn work half of the time!

The irony here is amazing.

Honestly I feel bad for you. When you (one day), either by your mothers admitting or by some other means, find out what this really turns out to be. It's going to crush you. You have bought into this so hard, you will be absolutely destroyed. You may here all the anecdotal stories that she tells about all the success-stories, and the failures get brushed off. It's gonna be a big wake-up one day.

On Topic: No I don't believe in the "paranormal". Be it aliens, ghosts, psychics, what-have-you. Don't buy into any of that stuff. You think you've seen ghosts, what have you.... great for you, I think you saw something that you interpreted as those things. Same with psychics. Time after time again, people keep coming forward with "supernatural psychic powers" and time and time again they are dis-proven.

 

[g3ko]

I'm not even kidding, if there's good, reliable money in telehealing then there must be something to it.

Gullibility comes to mind..

Obviously you didn't read a word of the previous sentence. Repeat clients. FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS. Nobody, no matter how gullible, pays 200 dollars on a regular basis for absolutely no reason. She gets referrals all the damn time. It is a legitimate buisness, dude.

i think he was talking about the placebo effect.

 

[edudogel]

i believe in aliens but they do not go to earth we are stupids apes to them and Ghosts are not real(I have had an out of body Experience but hey who care)

 

[b3nn3tt]

Not even a little bit. I accept that a lot of people have these 'experiences' and believe them to be real, but there will always be a better explanation for them than the paranormal.

I share the opinion of many here, that if something can't be tested then it can't be said to exist. If someone could offer up genuine proof that ghosts, psychic ability, or anything of that nature exists then I would fully endorse the claims, but I am yet to see any kind of compelling evidence to that end.