Do you feel sorry for non gamers?
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In the meantime while i take a look at this list, why dont you ask your brother if he is looking for something specific?? What kind of game does he want to play? up to every detail.Scabadus said:I can certainly try:DioWallachia said:
Ocarina of Time
Various Grand Theft Autos - from Vice City, up to 4, back down to buying 3 on his iPhone a few months ago
A football (that's soccer if you're American) game on the PS1, loved by my family because one of the combo buttons was to full-on boot your opponent in the face
Crazy Taxi on our old PS2 (this one, now I think about it, he could play for hours)
House of the Dead III (again, our home copy, we don't go to arcades much. I did have the lightguns though!)
Halo 1 & 2 (both co-op playing through the full campaign, along with many hours of splitscreen/networked multipayer, no online)
Sim City 3000 (we managed to play this against each other: start at one date, you have until another date to make as much money as possible. It's really fun!)
Counter-Strike: Source (for about an hour, offline, VS me. I think he got one kill... we have rather different natural skill levels)
Command and Conquer: Generals - Zero Hour
Dawn Of War: Dark Crusade, replaced by Soulstorm when it was released
Guitar Hero (or at least that type of game)
Neverwinter Nights 1 (again playing co-operativly with me, he enjoyed it but we never completed it - I was home for the holidays - and he never played it solo when I left)
Minecraft
That's all I can remember... I'm sure there are more and the order may not be perfect, but the importent ones are in there and it's mostly chronological.
I don't 'feel sorry' for them, no. I'm sure they have their own perfectly valid ways of entertaining themselves and spending their time and money, etc.
I mean, I can't actually imagine what those ways are, but it's none of my concern so to each their own.
I mean, I can't actually imagine what those ways are, but it's none of my concern so to each their own.
I never got this. That is, the idea that if you're not on the internet or reading a book or engaged in whatever other typically introverted activity, you must be having sex instead. Why not driving a car, or waiting in a queue or any of the other billions upon billions of possible things people do all the time?Buretsu said:
Sigh.........where is our Judge Frollo when you need him to burn the non-gamers?blackcherry said:
Maybe they are highly lauded because they believe its the only way people will actually care about books again. Sort of in the same way that everyone knows that Citizen Kane its the best movie ever even if it flopped at the box office, only by having the critics claiming over and over over the years people actually gave 2 fucks about it once again.Woodsey said:
"Maybe they are highly lauded because they believe its the only way people will actually care about books again."DioWallachia said:
Uh... lol?
Anyway, you're missing the point. Game writing just isn't good for the most part - even top sellers that we praise for their writing aren't particularly exceptional outside of the medium.
No, not everyone can be absorbed in the world of gaming, just like I don't like sports. I can have fun playing and sometimes in the right crowd I can even have some fun watching it, however I don't usually like it.
I am missing out on a lot of the good things about sport for not liking it though. I don't get to share the community and the entertainment they like, but hey, I like games. I already got my entertainment. I already got my community. Why would I care that there are people out there watching a guy run over the field while kicking a ball? Why would they care that I like playing Xenoblade?
I am missing out on a lot of the good things about sport for not liking it though. I don't get to share the community and the entertainment they like, but hey, I like games. I already got my entertainment. I already got my community. Why would I care that there are people out there watching a guy run over the field while kicking a ball? Why would they care that I like playing Xenoblade?
Let me put it this way. You know what are books best sellers right now? Twilight and Scientology books. The Scientology ones are bought by the ones that made the book to reach the best seller point and reach a more wide audience by tricking them. More or less i believe that using a critic opinion (even from ones that dont exist like this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Manning_%28fictitious_writer%29)its the same tactic.Woodsey said:
And if game writing isnt heard outside the medium its because, from a technical standpoint, they arent mainstream yet. Confusing? well here is a bastardized version of this article:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_266/7959-We-Are-Not-Mainstream
Tickets to see a movie are cheap and more accessible, playing a video game however requieres the console and the game, and each game (at least the so called AAA titles) cost at least 60$. Its obvious to see why no one knows about game writing when its this unreachable.
@Dio: so you're saying that because many people have terrible taste in books literature is a bad medium?
And yeah, woodsey is right about the quality of writing in games IMO - although there are many very well-written games out there, we haven't had a gaming Odyssey yet. This is because the medium is still very young and people are just figuring out what can be done with it.
And yeah, woodsey is right about the quality of writing in games IMO - although there are many very well-written games out there, we haven't had a gaming Odyssey yet. This is because the medium is still very young and people are just figuring out what can be done with it.
Most of the games here happens to be ones that dont have a very good story-gameplay integration and others are multiplayer heavy experiences (especially Minecraft who under my eyes feels like a MMORPG) Never played Neverwinter Nights or Dawn of War though.Scabadus said:I can certainly try:DioWallachia said:
Ocarina of Time
Various Grand Theft Autos - from Vice City, up to 4, back down to buying 3 on his iPhone a few months ago
A football (that's soccer if you're American) game on the PS1, loved by my family because one of the combo buttons was to full-on boot your opponent in the face
Crazy Taxi on our old PS2 (this one, now I think about it, he could play for hours)
House of the Dead III (again, our home copy, we don't go to arcades much. I did have the lightguns though!
Halo 1 & 2 (both co-op playing through the full campaign, along with many hours of splitscreen/networked multipayer, no online)
Sim City 3000 (we managed to play this against each other: start at one date, you have until another date to make as much money as possible. It's really fun!)
Counter-Strike: Source (for about an hour, offline, VS me. I think he got one kill... we have rather different natural skill levels)
Command and Conquer: Generals - Zero Hour
Dawn Of War: Dark Crusade, replaced by Soulstorm when it was released
Guitar Hero (or at least that type of game)
Neverwinter Nights 1 (again playing co-operativly with me, he enjoyed it but we never completed it - I was home for the holidays - and he never played it solo when I left)
Minecraft
That's all I can remember... I'm sure there are more and the order may not be perfect, but the importent ones are in there and it's mostly chronological.
I could recommend him to play The Legacy of Kain and Bastion for very STRONG story driven game or Alien Soldier for Sega Genesis and Tyrian for the PC for intense arcade action.
The Legacy of Kain (PC,PS1,PS2) has the problem of being so strong in the writing that you are gonna need to start from the first game to understand what in the heck is going on and 2 games are on the Playstation 1 and 3 on the PS2. One of the reason that games today do the "Same but different approach of James Bond or Indiana Jones" is because of this, having the necessary hardware to appreciate an entire series is a pain in the ass and doesn't guarantee a success on the selling point.
Accessibility to games is completely irrelevant to my point. The best of the best writing in games rarely matches that of films and books (often not matching those which we'd simply consider just plain good).DioWallachia said:
I don't really get the confusion.
On the bright side, at least they weren't subjected to the new shit in ACR.TrilbyWill said:
Or maybe it already exist but because the hardware is no longer produced to sustain things that according to video game producers dont make a profit it was lost in time. I mean, i know that filmaking started around 1895 but 80% films from that point to say 1943 (the year Citizen Kane was made) were lost forever. Same for videogames except that even with all the things that were against the film industry you can still get The Cabinet Of Dr Caligari (1920 and technically belong to public domain) on a bloody DVD but good luck find a game and a console that works (not including emulation that its technically illegal)Kahunaburger said: