Do you have any interest in the Wii U?
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I never bought a Wii because there was nothing on it that really demanded I get it, unlike the PS3 or 360, and the Wii U just looks like an elaborate joke to me. So, no, not at all.
I remain cautiously optimistic for the following reasons:
1. It will be nice to see Mario, Zelda & other Nintendo franchises with current-gen graphics.
2. It will be nice to play them without having to deal with motion controls. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually a big fan of motion controls (like the Wii and Kinect) for easy to understand multi-player party games, as I often entertain guests and family. But for more traditional "core" games, I don't like being forced to use them.
3. The hi-res touch screen in the controller has some genuinely brilliant potential applications. Aside from the predictable always-present map or inventory, it could also be used to allow customisable icons for using items, casting spells or launching abilities without having to pause the game.
4. The Wii U, if successful, may actually extend the life of the current generation well beyond the birth of the next. As the Wii U is similar in power to the existing PS3 & 360, we'll likely see games developed for it ported over to them. Additionally, developers & publishers may be more inclined to take risks on new ideas when they have three platforms (including two already well established platforms) they can release the games for.
5. The ability to continue playing a game on the controller's screen without using the TV, while a gimmick, is still pretty useful.
6. Developers are likely going to port existing games to it. For the most part, this just means the Wii U will get a slew of good existing games with nothing new added - but some of the better developers may take the opportunity to throw in extras. That could make games we've already played and loved worth playing all over again (see: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition)
7. Even the worst Nintendo consoles get enough good games in their lifetimes to justify owning them. From the moderate failure of the N64, the near-total failure of the GameCube and the core-game failures of the Wii, they're all still worth having. I can't see the Wii U being much different.
1. It will be nice to see Mario, Zelda & other Nintendo franchises with current-gen graphics.
2. It will be nice to play them without having to deal with motion controls. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually a big fan of motion controls (like the Wii and Kinect) for easy to understand multi-player party games, as I often entertain guests and family. But for more traditional "core" games, I don't like being forced to use them.
3. The hi-res touch screen in the controller has some genuinely brilliant potential applications. Aside from the predictable always-present map or inventory, it could also be used to allow customisable icons for using items, casting spells or launching abilities without having to pause the game.
4. The Wii U, if successful, may actually extend the life of the current generation well beyond the birth of the next. As the Wii U is similar in power to the existing PS3 & 360, we'll likely see games developed for it ported over to them. Additionally, developers & publishers may be more inclined to take risks on new ideas when they have three platforms (including two already well established platforms) they can release the games for.
5. The ability to continue playing a game on the controller's screen without using the TV, while a gimmick, is still pretty useful.
6. Developers are likely going to port existing games to it. For the most part, this just means the Wii U will get a slew of good existing games with nothing new added - but some of the better developers may take the opportunity to throw in extras. That could make games we've already played and loved worth playing all over again (see: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition)
7. Even the worst Nintendo consoles get enough good games in their lifetimes to justify owning them. From the moderate failure of the N64, the near-total failure of the GameCube and the core-game failures of the Wii, they're all still worth having. I can't see the Wii U being much different.
You've beaten Little King's Story, right?Crono1973 said:
How about Elebits? Zack and Wiki? No More Heroes? Muramasa? Sin and Punishment: Star Successor? Xenoblade? Dead Space Extraction? Donkey Kong Country Returns?
Also, forget Other M (which was actually pretty good if you ignore the story), what about Prime 3?
I could keep going. I always see people complaining about Nintendo's biggest 1st party titles, when they completely IGNORE anything else. I also see a lot of people going with the bandwagon opinion of the people who played the Wii for the first 6 months and just stopped, assuming the entire library from then on was just more waggle. From here, it looks like you haven't even played half the games you're complaining about. Or you really wanted to hate them, went into the game with that mindset and dropped it after an hour of criticizing everything you can and ignoring the rest. I don't think your opinion as to the whole of the Wii's library matters until you've actually played a good deal of the above games. There's a lot of great stuff on the Wii that goes completely unnoticed.
I sort of am, and Nintendo is reaching out to third parties for this one so more power to them really. What's interesting is the wii was less powerful because of nintendo being a small studio/publisher and needing to spend less money on each game. They have less employees than Valve if I remember correctly and still release quality games. More than once a year I might add. So don't know enough about it but I think what I'd really like to see is a new Ip.
This statement makes no sense, not only because the Wii's success was the direct result of it not being a hardcore platform, but because the hardcore gaming market and third parties had abandoned them long before it came out. Had they tried to compete directly with Microsoft or Sony with the Wii they might not be in the console industry at all anymore.jackpackage200 said:
As for the Wii U, no I'm not interested in it at all to be honest. It was quite clear to me when it was announced that they not only didn't know where to go with motion control from the Wii, but are now trying to compete directly with tablets in some regard. A move that is somewhat silly to be honest. They also seem to be trying to simultaneously court a hardcore market that stopped caring about them years ago, while adding as many bells and whistles onto the controller as they could think of without any real idea as to how any of it will result in a better gaming experience. The limitation of one tablet controller per console (unless they find a way around it) also limits the possibilities for multiplayer. Pretty much the only gameplay space that I had actually thought the controller may be interesting for.
So to sum up, Nintendo is now trying to compete directly with other casual platforms (tablets, smartphones, etc.) that will very likely replace them in the casual market, while trying to court hardcore gamers by making the console as powerful as the ones that they've invested 5-6 years in now and "promising" that things will be different this time, and to top it off are throwing shit at the wall when it comes to the controller to see which one sticks because they really don't have a follow up to the first workable implementation of motion controls. Actually, trying to see what sticks probably sums up their whole approach to this thing in general. I've never seen Nintendo come off as having so little of an idea of where they're going and why as when the Wii U was announced.
I'm not sure what there is to be interested in in all of that.
I believe he wasn't so much referring to sales figures as to the fact that it is a casual gaming platform, not a major one. Nothing against casuals, but, they aren't major. It's lack of full fledged online play, centered control system, and main stream 3rd party support would put it out of major gaming and into "hardcore" casual. Did it do well with it's targeted demographic. Oh absolutely hell yes it did. It did amazing and it made Nintendo richer then it could imagine, but it's still not a major gaming platform, it's a niche one and even Nintendo itself has recognized this.Matthew94 said:
OT: Unless Nintendo says it's scrapped all the WII-U plans and decided to develop and release the Gamecube 2... I'll not be buying another Nintendo product.
I have a good amount of Interest. I'm a HUGE Pikmin fan, and having recently picked up and finished Pikmin 2 after having to replay Pikmin 1 for several years (Which is my favorite game of all time), I'm hella excited for Pikmin 3.
Wii games attach rate is pale in comparison to the PS3, never mind the X360 attach rate. Developers don't care if a console sells 90M - if only Nintendo games sell why should third parties care? Nintendo was less prominent this gen, hence why they're trying to get 'gamers' back on board.Matthew94 said:
Well for me I have little or no interest. Having seen Nintendo rely on what I view as gimmicks recently it's made me pessimistic about their products, whether it be motion, dual screens, 3D or touch I don't want it. Like another poster said, Nintendo is taking a path of it's own where the hardware and control method is completely different. I'll assume PS4 and X720 will be quite a bit more powerful than the Wii U which means Wii U will never be lead platform and if the tech difference is vast enough it will probably get mediocre versions. I didn't grow up with Mario or Zelda either so I don't feel any motivation to play those games. I just want a traditional gaming experience when it comes to consoles - a controller, not a tablet. I'll follow it's progress and release and see how it goes anyway.
I probably wont be buying a Wii U.
E: With rumours of it supporting an app store I can see what they're aim and target is.
I feel like an elitist prick when I say that I primarily PC game now. I've hardly touched my consoles, except for a few games.
No, I'm not interested.
No, I'm not interested.
IF I thought Nintendo was going to do something really cool with the Wii U, I would be excited. But given their track record, I'm pretty blase.
Absolutely no interest in it, I've hated Nintendo and their marketing departments for years, this new gimmick wont change that.
I had some interest in the Wii U but that went away with the controller. Might pick it up if controller doesn't ruin system. Can see screen being used too much and having to divert eyes to controller screen instead of tv screen. Though I have always been biased against touch screens since labtops had those little pad areas instead of mouses.
