Do you really think that Battlefield will take DOWN COD?

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Blank Kold

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See, what happens is one of those two is released, a few months down the line, once the first game has lost alot of its playerbase, the other is released. So people end up buying and playing both.
 

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Captain Placeholder said:
ENOUGH OF THESE THREADS ALREADY.

Battlefield is a Tactical Team First Person Shooter.

CoD is a run and gun First Person Shooter with NO TACTICAL OR TEAM BASED MERIT AT ALL.

THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT FPS' STOP COMPARING THEM.

WOW WILL ALWAYS BE THE BES... wait wrong thread. Where was I again?

All joking aside - every game series will die out at some point. It has happened to everything so far. Just wait. It will Die, we will celebrate. Then we will play a better IP that has yet to be made.
Oh no, EA are the ones claiming that they will be the best FPS this year. I just don't think so. Sure the game will be absolutely better, but COD will still sell more.
 

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I hope not.

There's more than enough room for both games to flourish. They're different enough that they can satisfy different shooter itches for different people. Why does every FPS set in modern times have to "take down" Call of Duty? Every racing game doesn't have to "take down" Gran Turismo, TD:U and PGR are completely different experiences, but are all racing games that are good on their own merits.
 

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It's hard to say what will dethrone what they are two completely different games. Some people like myself like the smaller mapped CoD maps that make sniping less annoying, and vehicles non-existent. Anyway you look at it in the end each game will have massive followings that are sure to be cash cows.
 

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There are many games 'better' than CoD. There are few games more fun than CoD.

If any games become more succesful than CoD (which will happen, inevitably. It happens to everything), then it won't be Battlefield. Battlefield is more tactical and so it requires a bit more thought to play, which stops it from being the simple joyride that CoD is, and stops it from having such a mass-market appeal.

If Battlefield was going to become as succesful as CoD it would have to simplify itself and become less tactical. To defeat CoD, you must become CoD.

Oh, and in the future, make balanced threads. This makes you sound like a bit of a tool.
o_O in what way? I stated many people regard COD as trash around the internet yet every release of the game is bigger than the last. I do believe that a lot of other games are better (it is why I said 'in my eyes') and a lot of gamers are claiming their hate for the COD games in forums all over. The same thing happened last year though, and COD still sold really well. I don't see COD being taken down by Battlefield.
 

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I want to see BF3 beat CoD. I actually see this being very possible for a couple reasons.
1. It's already obvious how Activsion is about to milt the CoD franchise.
2. BF:BC2 did WAY better than expected
3. I know that many of my friends, who were once hardcore CoD fans, are getting sick of CoD and they're moving on to Halo, BF:BC2 and Crysis 2.
 

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Physics Engine said:
I hope not.

There's more than enough room for both games to flourish. They're different enough that they can satisfy different shooter itches for different people. Why does every FPS set in modern times have to "take down" Call of Duty? Every racing game doesn't have to "take down" Gran Turismo, TD:U and PGR are completely different experiences, but are all racing games that are good on their own merits.
Its EA saying all of this in interviews. They are claiming that they actually plan on releasing 'quality' unlike their competitors (obviously refering to COD). Or this interview where they flat out imply COD as a 'children?s game, a twitch, infantry-focused on-drugs sugar-rush experience'. It seems EA is all about 'taking' down COD this year.
 

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IamSofaKingRaw said:
I've seen the gameplay trailer (looks awesome) I've read about the fully destructible awesomeness in the MP portion but still, I don't think that this game will put COD out of relevance.
You're trying to compare NASCAR and the Dakar Rally, or pop CDs and Verdi.

Aside from superficially looking similar they're completely different, different scale, difference play style, different timespan for matches and even different player attention spans. One won't ever beat the other out of relevance and there's still a couple of million players operating on BF2. Not so many on CoD2,3 or 4.

I hope the Fault Line trailer doesn't reflect a CoDding up of the mainline BF series though, if the multiplayer is anything less than BF2/2142 could pull of I'll be skipping it.
 

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fix-the-spade said:
IamSofaKingRaw said:
I've seen the gameplay trailer (looks awesome) I've read about the fully destructible awesomeness in the MP portion but still, I don't think that this game will put COD out of relevance.
You're trying to compare NASCAR and the Dakar Rally, or pop CDs and Verdi.

Aside from superficially looking similar they're completely different, different scale, difference play style, different timespan for matches and even different player attention spans. One won't ever beat the other out of relevance and there's still a couple of million players operating on BF2. Not so many on CoD2,3 or 4.

I hope the Fault Line trailer doesn't reflect a CoDding up of the mainline BF series though, if the multiplayer is anything less than BF2/2142 could pull of I'll be skipping it.
Once again (I should really edit my OP) its EA thats really pushing to 'overthrow' COD. I've already showed two interviews that give examples of this in this thread. Heres another where they clearly diss COD for it going on its 9th addition to the series and the guy also says he'd love for the comparisons between the two. If you didn't know, EA and Activision have a little rivalry going on. Maybe thats why EA is making it clear nowadays that Battlefield is a much better experience.
 

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As has been said, they are too different to cancel each other out, the 12 year olds on cod aren't going to be switching to battlefield for a few years, unless battlefield becomes just another cod clone.
Which I really do not want to see.
 

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It should, but it won't. Only COD will take down COD and it looks like it will given how the competition is advancing when it is not. Killzone 3 is better. Halo: Reach is better. Battlefield Bad Company 2 is better.
 

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Odd placement of capitalization in the title, it makes it sound like CoD is a jumpy dog interrupting you in the middle of a sentence.

OT: No, not at all, and I don't really care. If Call of Duty can continue to dominate the attention spans of every preteen male and frat boy with a pulse then other online communities will be all the more pleasant for it, at least by comparison. As long as belligerent racist/homophobic d-bags have to exist in gaming they might as well be confined to one place... at least until we can find a way to get rid of them... permanently.

*tents fingers together in evil contemplation*
 

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IamSofaKingRaw said:
There are a lot of games that are better than COD as it is and that never stopped it from being a huge success, no matter how much people seem to hate it. KZ series, Battlefield Bad Company, Resistance are all better in my eyes but the sales don't reflect that. What makes this time around any different?
Pretty much this.
New iterations from the Call of Duty series were the breakout gritty "realistic" (ha ha) shooter" for consoles. A realm that had, up to that point, been dominated by free mods for futuristic PC shooters. Like iInsertgenerallyuselessproducthere from apple, it's a recognizable name, and most people will just go with that, because it's easier than learning the pros and cons of various competitors beforehand.

As for the Battlefield games... I loved Battlefield: Vietnam. In my opinion, that's the only war that developer is any good at portraying. If Bad Company 2: Vietnam winds up in a cheap combo pack someday that allows me to play it, I'll get it too.
...I just have no interest in the rest of the series. WWII and modern Battlefield games have bored me every time.
 

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IamSofaKingRaw said:
Physics Engine said:
Its EA saying all of this in interviews. They are claiming that they actually plan on releasing 'quality' unlike their competitors (obviously refering to COD). Or this interview where they flat out imply COD as a 'children?s game, a twitch, infantry-focused on-drugs sugar-rush experience'. It seems EA is all about 'taking' down COD this year.
Well that puts a different spin on things then.

Everyone who's behind a team making a modern shooter is going to say that. Making the most well known rival a benchmark has been going on as long as marketing has. The interview you've linked to is the Executive Producer at DICE, of course he's trying to make some hype for his team's game, this being the internet, trolling is the most successful tactic to do so. Also the other link you've posted is from an EA Executive, the publisher. Again, they're simply hyping up the game as they are payed to do.

This is merely marketing double speak. Nintendo and SEGA did it in the 80's and 90's. Ford and GM have been doing this for nearly 100 years and it will continue to happen as long as marketing exists.

Activision is king of the hill right now so of course EA's crosshairs are on them, it only makes sense. I'd be worried if EA (and other publishers) weren't gunning for CoD type numbers. They're not going to get those numbers though, I'm not sure even CoD can keep up with their own recent sales with their next game. It is fun to watch the stuffed suits get all up in each others faces, it's so cute that they think I believe anything they say.

That said, I hope DICE is not going for CoD type gameplay with added vehicles. We already have a Call of Duty, it's called Call of Duty. The Battlefield series is the only FPS military shooter I like, if it becomes CoD, I'm picking up my ball and going home.

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Midnight Crossroads said:
BF will never surpass CoD in popularity unless Dice decides to chase console gold. In which case, BF will find itself caught in a spiral as it goes down the shitter. The same spiral CoD is caught in after surpassing the early 2000's most hated "herp-derp, frat boy" FPS franchise, Halo.

You do not want that to happen.
BF3 is already been confirment not support DX9 and is being developed on DX10/11 not sure 10 or 11, but either way I'm pretty sure both PS3 and Xbox both only support DX9. So it will be a watered down PC version for Console players
 

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well because after the spectacular pile of balls modernwarfare 2 is i think just due to the fact that activition is making this ones its going to fail, unless they take the good treyarch did and improve on it

but of course im seeing people overwehlemingly wanting quick scopping back with makes me think that cod fans like the way modern warfare 2 was, or just have a large number of masochists in their midst
 

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Take it down to the point where no one plays CoD anymore, impossible. Surpass it in popularity? It could happen, although it doesn't happen overnight, it takes time for a game to lose steam and to lose its fanbase to a competitor.

Granted, I still have hopes that IW doesn't screw up, but knowing what happened with MW2, that doesn't seem to be very likely.
Think about it like the PS1, 2 and 3 though. PS1, immensely popular, PS2 even more popular, PS3, dud at start. With WoW, there are gradual changes and you''re playing the same game, so you're constantly upgrading, no real reason to switch.

With CoD it's different though. Eventually people will get tired of upgrading, and the number of people buying the next version will shrink. Once that starts happening, it'll shrink more, and I'm not sure there's much Activision can do about it.
 

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I think that bf3 will be a better game but I doubt that bf3 will manage to take down COD because COD has already so many fans who just blindly buy it.
But you also have to consider that when Black Ops was released it didn't really have competition, so I'm sure that the next COD won't manage to sell as good as black ops. Another point that actually surprised me is, that there are now a lot of people in different forums who are fed up with COD because it's always the same.
As for me, I drew the line at COD4. I didn't buy a COD game after that one but I'm really looking forward to bf3.
 

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Captain Placeholder said:
ENOUGH OF THESE THREADS ALREADY.

Battlefield is a Tactical Team First Person Shooter.

CoD is a run and gun First Person Shooter with NO TACTICAL OR TEAM BASED MERIT AT ALL.

THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT FPS' STOP COMPARING THEM.

WOW WILL ALWAYS BE THE BES... wait wrong thread. Where was I again?

All joking aside - every game series will die out at some point. It has happened to everything so far. Just wait. It will Die, we will celebrate. Then we will play a better IP that has yet to be made.
What about Mario? As bad as it might get, it will probably never die until someone else takes over Nintendo.