Doctor Who Episode 3: Victory of the Daleks

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oliveira8

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RandyRedCat said:
I guess it's just easier to create for Moffat to create a one shot episode or two part episode. But the foreshadowing of the cracks and leaking memory may point that Moffat was more interested in a creating a really big arc for the entire season to make the season more tight. In that aspect it's really working so far. Much better than "Bad Wolf" or "Something in your back". So far this is.
 

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I enjoyed the episode and I am looking forward to the Weeping Angels.
Also, for some strange reason, the Daleks new design reminds me of the front end of a VW Sirocco. Like I said, strange. Oh, and the end could have been a bit better. But apart from that, liking the series so far.
 

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Definitely a weak episode, compariatively, but then there are always weak episodes (Absorbaloph anyone?) Regardless, it was executed fairly well, with some good touches. Unfortunately, there was a big hunk of cheese too.

Also, I feel I should point out, since no-one's done so yet (that I saw) the Da'leks in disguise were referred to as Iron Sides, not iron sights. It's a simple reference to their armour.

The only real problem with the series is that the big ending threat is obvious this time. There are cracks in the universe. BANG episode one, the threat is revealed. True we don't know what it is, or why they're happening, but we know they're significant in some way. Unlike Bad Wolf and Prime Minister Harold 'The Master' Saxon. Both of which were hinted at repeatedly, but never had any real attention drawn to them, or had their significance revealed until the final episode.
 

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Why do we need emotional writing in Doctor Who? It's not Eastenders. All too often Doctor Who has descended into bathos and whiny love stories. Let's once again look at the last R.T.D episode a tale that could have been told in one episode! Instead he got the set up of the story in the first five minutes of the first episode and a second one which got rid of the pesky plot in the first quarter of an hour in order to focus on horribly badly written emotion.

So may I be the first to say thank god the new team can't write twaddle like this. OT the latest episode I thought was the best one so far! cheeky jokes pertaining to old war films, Churchill, Daleks new and old and Spitfires in space! What more can a man want!

Oh and I may explode next week at the prospect of more weeping angels.
 

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oliveira8 said:
RandyRedCat said:
I guess it's just easier to create for Moffat to create a one shot episode or two part episode. But the foreshadowing of the cracks and leaking memory may point that Moffat was more interested in a creating a really big arc for the entire season to make the season more tight. In that aspect it's really working so far. Much better than "Bad Wolf" or "Something in your back". So far this is.
Honestly I don't think "Bad Wolf" has been beaten by anything since then. It was something that was so obvious yet hidden that it just worked so well.

The "crack" is a fine over arching theme, adds a little something to the end of ever episode. But then again we don't know what's leading to. Hopefully for once it won't be Daleks (yes, I can spell it now).

EDIT:...Or the Master. My Bad
 

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SomeBritishDude said:
oliveira8 said:
RandyRedCat said:
I guess it's just easier to create for Moffat to create a one shot episode or two part episode. But the foreshadowing of the cracks and leaking memory may point that Moffat was more interested in a creating a really big arc for the entire season to make the season more tight. In that aspect it's really working so far. Much better than "Bad Wolf" or "Something in your back". So far this is.
Honestly I don't think "Bad Wolf" has been beaten by anything since then. It was something that was so obvious yet hidden that it just worked so well.

The "crack" is a fine over arching theme, adds a little something to the end of ever episode. But then again we don't know what's leading to. Hopefully for once it won't be Daleks (yes, I can spell it now).
I liked Bad Wolf at start, but after repeated watchings it seems kinda pointless really.
 

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Gilbert Munch said:
What in the world is a Darlek? Damn you Steven Moffat, going around and changing everything I knew about Doctor Who...

OT: I don't think any episode has lived up to the first, however the series certainly has potential. However, if next week isn't great I'll be worried, considering the excellent source material it has.

Josh12345 said:
wow this is the 1st time I've been 1st to reply to a thread
One of my guilty pleasures is seeing people who go 'First!' not... well, come first.

You weren't an idiot about it though, so I feel only sorrow and offer you my condolences.
yeah thats because as I was about to post my internet went down and I had to wait nearly 10 for it to work again
 

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The_Decoy said:
Why can't the doctor go back to a month before this happened (as he was supposed to) and wipe out the daleks? He's a fricking time traveller!
Because he can't cross back into his own timeline!!!! Or at least he can't alter it, see Father's Day in series 1 of the new series. He also ca't chane established "fixed" events like in THe Fires of Pompeii or as he attempted to in The Waters of Mars.

Also Steven Moffat didn't write this particular episode, Mark Gatis did (he also wrote and starred in the one with Dr. Lazarus). Although I realise Moffat is ultimatly the guy who says yes or no to a concept now he can't be judged for the emotional parts of this episode.

Not sure about the new/old daleks. I think they were better in the 60's when there was less colour about so they didn't look so lego like.
 

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So am I the only person who saw those Daleks and immediately though 'Go go Power Rangers...'? Cause that shit seemed pretty obvious.

(EDIT: No, no I was not. Gash darn it.)

I'm not sure how I felt about this episode. Things kind of went downhill for me when the rainbow Dalek squad arrived and then further down when they attached lasers to Spitfires and then made them space-ready in less that 10 minutes. That didn't make a lot of sense - I mean, I know it's sci-fi but they normally conform to some sort of realism.
 

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I don't like the historical episodes, nor the Daleks, nor did I like the idea of convincing a robot he's a human to stop him exploding.

Very poor compared to the previous episode.
It was quite funny with the convincing a robot he is human.
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Meh. the episode wasn't that great. Basically nothing more than a time-out from any regular goings on to say "ooh look, colourful daleks. all new and shiny just like everything else."
 

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Cheesus333 said:
So am I the only person who saw those Daleks and immediately though 'Go go Power Rangers...'? Cause that shit seemed pretty obvious.

I'm not sure how I felt about this episode. Things kind of went downhill for me when the rainbow Dalek squad arrived and then further down when they attached lasers to Spitfires and then made them space-ready in less that 10 minutes. That didn't make a lot of sense - I mean, I know it's sci-fi but they normally conform to some sort of realism.
I think the gravity bubbles that the robot guy "invented" meant that the spitfires didn't need to be airtight or anything. I'm not saying that makes it more realistic, it doesn't. It's some flawed writing that they didn't make that more obvious, particularly in a genre where the fans are notorious for nitpicking
 

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QueenWren said:
Cheesus333 said:
So am I the only person who saw those Daleks and immediately though 'Go go Power Rangers...'? Cause that shit seemed pretty obvious.

I'm not sure how I felt about this episode. Things kind of went downhill for me when the rainbow Dalek squad arrived and then further down when they attached lasers to Spitfires and then made them space-ready in less that 10 minutes. That didn't make a lot of sense - I mean, I know it's sci-fi but they normally conform to some sort of realism.
I think the gravity bubbles that the robot guy "invented" meant that the spitfires didn't need to be airtight or anything. I'm not saying that makes it more realistic, it doesn't. It's some flawed writing that they didn't make that more obvious, particularly in a genre where the fans are notorious for nitpicking
I pretty much got the gravity bubble crap, as weird as it seemed, but the lasers still came out of nowhere. As far as I could tell the soldiers were still using rifles, so that suggested they hadn't reverse-engineered the Dalek's lasers yet, but there they were, on the Spitfires.

Also, did anyone else find it hilarious when the white Dalek kept yelling mundane commands like 'EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!'?
 

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The_Decoy said:
The colours just made me think of power rangers ><
Hahaha I thought this too, kinda amusing.

Wait,

The_Decoy said:
Plus how come the daleks can pick off a Messerschmitt from a mile away, but can't hit the doctor from across the room?
I......I.........because he's The Doctor goddamit!!. Ie. who the fuck knows


Anyway overall a slightly below par episode, I like how the Daleks weren't defeated again for once.

Oh and that mysterious crack. One per episode eh.

Just like the good old Bad Wolf references eh
 

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Twas a overall good episode, but the one thing that nagged at me was the "power ranger Daleks squad* every time I see them i'm gonna expect to see Zordon!!!
 

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I appreciate that Moffat wants to make his own mark on Doctor Who, but he is changing some things that shouldn't be changed. E.g. the "Mighty Morfin' Dalek Rangers!"

Plus the foreshadowing is depressingly obvious.
 

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Very enjoyable. It looked a bit too much like the previous episode though; the Doctor standing for another neigh-impossible choice, Amy again saving the day so quickly.

Amy is really getting into the action too fast, in my opinion. I rather would've seen a slower introduction to the Doctor's life-style and thus finding out more about the new Doctor's personality.

Also, FRIGGIN LASER SPITFIRES IN SPACE!!!! Good gods that was awesome.
Baldry said:
Twas a overall good episode, but the one thing that nagged at me was the "power ranger Daleks squad* every time I see them i'm gonna expect to see Zordon!!!
First thing I thought of as well.
 

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Pretty awesome episode, Bert from Doc Martin as Churchill? Genius!

Although, about the Daleks, I think they'd be alright, as "superior" Daleks and have smaller, more insignificant grunt Daleks. Coy marketing ploy come Christmas time too, I want the whole collection.

Also, Jammy Dodger Self Destruct Button? Hell Yeah! Although I spent the next 5 minutes arguing with my mum whether it was a party ring or jammy dodger he was holding, naturally, I won. I know my biscuits me ;)

Between Doctor Who, Ashes To Ashes and Heroes, Weekend telly is awesome!

Broadsword to Danny Boy!
 

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New Daleks are the coolest thing I have ever seen

Winston was beautifully portrayed

Cyborg thing was unexpected, and well-done

Fairly good episode, if a bit rushed and poorly paced