Doctor Who: Episode 7: Amy's Choice (Spoilers)

[TimeLord]

Holy crap I just thought of something. The Dreamlord seemed like an evil version of the Doctor, or at least one who is less morally strong. A character who sounds a lot like http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Valeyard .

Now, while this is unlikely, and yeah, does contradict the information on that page slightly, I think it would be amazing if they linked the two characters somehow.

I am intrigued. I hope that they will keep to the canon and introduce this character between the 12th and final Doctor. Maybe this is a glimpse of what is to come

I'd doubt it. The so called 'final doctor' is one canon I can see the BBC easily ignoring.

Well yea there are several ways of the BBC avoiding the 13 Doctor limit. The Master has done it in the old series

 

[Joe Deadman]

Holy crap I just thought of something. The Dreamlord seemed like an evil version of the Doctor, or at least one who is less morally strong. A character who sounds a lot like http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Valeyard .

Now, while this is unlikely, and yeah, does contradict the information on that page slightly, I think it would be amazing if they linked the two characters somehow.

I am intrigued. I hope that they will keep to the canon and introduce this character between the 12th and final Doctor. Maybe this is a glimpse of what is to come

I'd doubt it. The so called 'final doctor' is one canon I can see the BBC easily ignoring.

Or they'll worm around it with some crazy plot. Probably just ignore it though.

Bout the episode: I still miss Tennant but this guy is definitely growing on me.
Loving the Dream Lord as well and I didn't see the whole two dreams thing coming until the Doctor mentioned blowing up the TARDIS.

 

[ProtoChimp]

I knew there was gonna be a thread about this. Not that I'm complaining but there's gonna be one like these every saturday isn't there.

Anyway I loved it because it showed Amy isn't just a shallow ***** who fancies the doctor and actually loved Rory. And I can't believe he cut off that fucking marvelous ponytail.

 

[Disaster Button]

I really enjoyed it.

I really liked at the end where the Doctor catches the reflection of the Dream Lord in the Tardis Console implying that it still may be a dream.

Or that the Dream Lord could be a real enemy and the Doctor wasn't telling the whole truth

Or maybe that the Dream Lord's physical representation of the Doctor's negativity and self hatred is closer to the surface than was previously thought.

I would have accepted that if his negativity and self hatred was phased in a bit more, but they have just suddenly dropped it on us.

I hope they develop it more in a later episode/series and don't include it in this series' finale.

I dunno I think there have been a few hints of it, like in Journey's End where the Doctor is almost brought to tears when Davros shows him how all his companions are compelled to fight and sacrifice themselves for him. Rory echoed this in The Vampires of Venice when he berated the Doctor for how people around him are so desperate to impress him by throwing themselves into danger.

It would be nice if it was developed a bit more though, I get the feeling something in this episode is going to be linked to the Finale episode and I kind of hope it is the Dream Lord.

 

[FinalDream]

Rory is the only thing I dislike about the new series, had to be said.

 

[TimeLord]

I dunno I think there have been a few hints of it, like in Journey's End where the Doctor is almost brought to tears when Davros shows him how all his companions are compelled to fight and sacrifice themselves for him. Rory echoed this in The Vampires of Venice when he berated the Doctor for how people around him are so desperate to impress him by throwing themselves into danger.

It would be nice if it was developed a bit more though, I get the feeling something in this episode is going to be linked to the Finale episode and I kind of hope it is the Dream Lord.

I agree about Vampires in Venice and Journey's End to an extent, but that is my point, one is a tiny reference, the other was in this series, last episode no less.

I hope it is linked to the final episode, but not resolved in it

Rory is the only thing I dislike about the new series, had to be said.

I like him, he adds a very human element to the Doctor's travels

 

[Disaster Button]

I dunno I think there have been a few hints of it, like in Journey's End where the Doctor is almost brought to tears when Davros shows him how all his companions are compelled to fight and sacrifice themselves for him. Rory echoed this in The Vampires of Venice when he berated the Doctor for how people around him are so desperate to impress him by throwing themselves into danger.

It would be nice if it was developed a bit more though, I get the feeling something in this episode is going to be linked to the Finale episode and I kind of hope it is the Dream Lord.

I agree about Vampires in Venice and Journey's End to an extent, but that is my point, one is a tiny reference, the other was in this series, last episode no less.

I hope it is linked to the final episode, but not resolved in it

Rory is the only thing I dislike about the new series, had to be said.

I like him, he adds a very human element to the Doctor's travels

I agree, I don't think it would be right to fully resolve it at all, especially so soon. And I agree with the Rory thing, he's pretty goofy and awesome. It'd be nice if they kept him around and saw more of him develop instead of dropping him off in the next episode like they did with Mickey in Season 2.

 

[TimeLord]

I dunno I think there have been a few hints of it, like in Journey's End where the Doctor is almost brought to tears when Davros shows him how all his companions are compelled to fight and sacrifice themselves for him. Rory echoed this in The Vampires of Venice when he berated the Doctor for how people around him are so desperate to impress him by throwing themselves into danger.

It would be nice if it was developed a bit more though, I get the feeling something in this episode is going to be linked to the Finale episode and I kind of hope it is the Dream Lord.

I agree about Vampires in Venice and Journey's End to an extent, but that is my point, one is a tiny reference, the other was in this series, last episode no less.

I hope it is linked to the final episode, but not resolved in it

Rory is the only thing I dislike about the new series, had to be said.

I like him, he adds a very human element to the Doctor's travels

I agree, I don't think it would be right to fully resolve it at all, especially so soon. And I agree with the Rory thing, he's pretty goofy and awesome. It'd be nice if they kept him around and saw more of him develop instead of dropping him off in the next episode like they did with Mickey in Season 2.

Mickey was brilliant, he was goofy like Rory.
Companions like that compliment the Doctor a lot better than his female ones I think (maybe it's a male companion thing as Cpt Jack was brilliant with Eccleston and Tennant)

 

[Disaster Button]

I dunno I think there have been a few hints of it, like in Journey's End where the Doctor is almost brought to tears when Davros shows him how all his companions are compelled to fight and sacrifice themselves for him. Rory echoed this in The Vampires of Venice when he berated the Doctor for how people around him are so desperate to impress him by throwing themselves into danger.

It would be nice if it was developed a bit more though, I get the feeling something in this episode is going to be linked to the Finale episode and I kind of hope it is the Dream Lord.

I agree about Vampires in Venice and Journey's End to an extent, but that is my point, one is a tiny reference, the other was in this series, last episode no less.

I hope it is linked to the final episode, but not resolved in it

Rory is the only thing I dislike about the new series, had to be said.

I like him, he adds a very human element to the Doctor's travels

I agree, I don't think it would be right to fully resolve it at all, especially so soon. And I agree with the Rory thing, he's pretty goofy and awesome. It'd be nice if they kept him around and saw more of him develop instead of dropping him off in the next episode like they did with Mickey in Season 2.

Mickey was brilliant, he was goofy like Rory.
Companions like that compliment the Doctor a lot better than his female ones I think (maybe it's a male companion thing as Cpt Jack was brilliant with Eccleston and Tennant)

I really liked Mickey at first but I didn't feel like he was the same after he spent some time in the alernate reality.

I think its because the male Companions are usually brought in after the female ones and during a more stressful time and are almost a little bit of an outsider at first so they get to see what goes on and almost make fun of the antics of the Doctor and the Companion whilst serving to bring them both back down to Earth when crazy schenanigans are going on. Of course this doesn't mean they're any less closer to the Doctor, Wilfred was a great Companion and he also complimented the Docctor, and Donna, wonderfully.

 

[not_the_dm]

Bloody hell your quick... I watched the episode and then had cake, then spent 25 minutes turning on my fossilised computer.

OT: I reckon that the reflection was to show that there is still darkness in the Doctor, like that which Dona witnesses in the Christmas Star episode.

I have to admit, I honestly thought that the frozen tardis was real from the start untill the Doctor blew it up. It kind of gave the fact that the village was a dream when Rory took time to die when the guy on the bike was disintegrated instantly though.

 

[TimeLord]

I really liked Mickey at first but I didn't feel like he was the same after he spent some time in the alernate reality.

I think its because the male Companions are usually brought in after the female ones and during a more stressful time and are almost a little bit of an outsider at first so they get to see what goes on and almost make fun of the antics of the Doctor and the Companion whilst serving to bring them both back down to Earth when crazy schenanigans are going on. Of course this doesn't mean they're any less closer to the Doctor, Wilfred was a great Companion and he also complimented the Docctor, and Donna, wonderfully.

The male companions are great when they understand things less. Like you say, before Mickey stayed in the parallel universe, the way Rory is now, Wilfred in the End of Time.

The only rule breaker there is Cpt Jack as he understood the whole time/space stuff but still injected a great element into the episodes he was in

 

[Disaster Button]

I really liked Mickey at first but I didn't feel like he was the same after he spent some time in the alernate reality.

I think its because the male Companions are usually brought in after the female ones and during a more stressful time and are almost a little bit of an outsider at first so they get to see what goes on and almost make fun of the antics of the Doctor and the Companion whilst serving to bring them both back down to Earth when crazy schenanigans are going on. Of course this doesn't mean they're any less closer to the Doctor, Wilfred was a great Companion and he also complimented the Docctor, and Donna, wonderfully.

The male companions are great when they understand things less. Like you say, before Mickey stayed in the parallel universe, the way Rory is now, Wilfred in the End of Time.

The only rule breaker there is Cpt Jack as he understood the whole time/space stuff but still injected a great element into the episodes he was in

I think what really made Captain jack great was the chemistry between John Barrowman and David Tennant/Christopher Eccelston.

 

[Plinglebob]

I really liked this episode and it also really surprised me. I will admit I wasn't too convinced by the plot when I first heard about it as I though it would be hard for them to keep it suspenseful when the viewer knows he's going to end up on the Tardis in the end. Overall, I thought it worked well.

I'm pleasently surprised by Rory. When we 1st saw him (and saw the wedding dress) I was expecting them to go down a similar line as they did with Rose and Micky. Dumb bf who loves the girl, but is then dumpped because they prefer the Doctor. Not only have they made him someone who can hold their own (as much as anyone who isn't the Doctor can), but they also mae Amy prefer him to the Doctor. I just hope that continues and they don't end up doing something stupid like killing Rory.

I think my favourite thing in the series so far is how they've been exploring some of the negative sides to the Doctor and unlike in the last few series, it doesn't feel like they're banging you over the head with it.

 

[TimeLord]

I really liked Mickey at first but I didn't feel like he was the same after he spent some time in the alernate reality.

I think its because the male Companions are usually brought in after the female ones and during a more stressful time and are almost a little bit of an outsider at first so they get to see what goes on and almost make fun of the antics of the Doctor and the Companion whilst serving to bring them both back down to Earth when crazy schenanigans are going on. Of course this doesn't mean they're any less closer to the Doctor, Wilfred was a great Companion and he also complimented the Docctor, and Donna, wonderfully.

The male companions are great when they understand things less. Like you say, before Mickey stayed in the parallel universe, the way Rory is now, Wilfred in the End of Time.

The only rule breaker there is Cpt Jack as he understood the whole time/space stuff but still injected a great element into the episodes he was in

I think what really made Captain jack great was the chemistry between John Barrowman and David Tennant/Christopher Eccelston.

Exactly, I really don't know how well he would work with Matt Smith to the point I actually don't want him to be brought back in any way.

 

[Not-here-anymore]

I found it predictable, but in a good way. The 'I worked it out so I feel clever' way, not the 'durr the plot was stupid' way. Obviously, the village was never going to be the 'real' scenario, the writers not wishing to lumber themselves with a pregnant character when so much running needs to be done. Although it would have been an interesting surprise if that had been real.

I guess when the whole 'save the tardis in 14 minutes' thing (The doctor at his best) was directly compared to 'peaceful idyllic lifestyle' (Rory's idyll) it kind of got me thinking that both seemed overly convenient. And it would have been a cheap cop-out to end with everyone back on the tardis having picked the right dream that way...

 

[TimeLord]

the writers not wishing to lumber themselves with a pregnant character when so much running needs to be done.

I liked how they made a few references to Amy not being about to run a lot because of her pregnancy

 

[Disaster Button]

I really liked Mickey at first but I didn't feel like he was the same after he spent some time in the alernate reality.

I think its because the male Companions are usually brought in after the female ones and during a more stressful time and are almost a little bit of an outsider at first so they get to see what goes on and almost make fun of the antics of the Doctor and the Companion whilst serving to bring them both back down to Earth when crazy schenanigans are going on. Of course this doesn't mean they're any less closer to the Doctor, Wilfred was a great Companion and he also complimented the Docctor, and Donna, wonderfully.

The male companions are great when they understand things less. Like you say, before Mickey stayed in the parallel universe, the way Rory is now, Wilfred in the End of Time.

The only rule breaker there is Cpt Jack as he understood the whole time/space stuff but still injected a great element into the episodes he was in

I think what really made Captain jack great was the chemistry between John Barrowman and David Tennant/Christopher Eccelston.

Exactly, I really don't know how well he would work with Matt Smith to the point I actually don't want him to be brought back in any way.

I can't really think of anything else for him to do on Doctor Who anyway, Torchwood is his home now. But considering that Stephen Moffat said no past companions are returning I don't think we'll see him in the Tardis again... but then he did say he was going to give the Daleks a rest for awhile.

 

[TimeLord]

I can't really think of anything else for him to do on Doctor Who anyway, Torchwood is his home now. But considering that Stephen Moffat said no past companions are returning I don't think we'll see him in the Tardis again... but then he did say he was going to give the Daleks a rest for awhile.

Ahh, I did not hear that Stephen Moffat had said no companions would be returning.

The Daleks are resting....

By resting I mean creating enough of themselves to fill the next 20 series.

 

[Disaster Button]

I can't really think of anything else for him to do on Doctor Who anyway, Torchwood is his home now. But considering that Stephen Moffat said no past companions are returning I don't think we'll see him in the Tardis again... but then he did say he was going to give the Daleks a rest for awhile.

Ahh, I did not hear that Stephen Moffat had said no companions would be returning.

The Daleks are resting....

By resting I mean creating enough of themselves to fill the next 20 series.

Well at least now they look like genocidal Power Rangers.

 

[TimeLord]

I can't really think of anything else for him to do on Doctor Who anyway, Torchwood is his home now. But considering that Stephen Moffat said no past companions are returning I don't think we'll see him in the Tardis again... but then he did say he was going to give the Daleks a rest for awhile.

Ahh, I did not hear that Stephen Moffat had said no companions would be returning.

The Daleks are resting....

By resting I mean creating enough of themselves to fill the next 20 series.

Well at least now they look like genocidal Power Rangers.

Well there's that...

I do like that they have gone back to the idea of different coloured Daleks from the early movies