XJ-0461 said:
Holy crap I just thought of something. The Dreamlord seemed like an evil version of the Doctor, or at least one who is less morally strong. A character who sounds a lot like
The Valeyard .
Now, while this is unlikely, and yeah, does contradict the information on that page slightly, I think it would be amazing if they linked the two characters somehow.
He also reminded me a bit of the <url=http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Celestial_Toymaker>Celestial Toymaker, though admittedly not as much as the Valeyard. He did seem to be giving off some Master vibes as well.
Maybe this fella is what will eventually become the Valeyard, when the Time Lords download him from the Doctor's timestream.
Relatedly, if the Valeyard was created by taking all the evil from between the Doctor's twelfth and last incarnations (as the Master claims in
Mindwarp, if memory serves), does this mean that after he regenerates for the twelfth time he'll have a period of being overtly nice to people and apologising a lot? It'd be funny, if nothing else.
EDIT: Ninja'd.
Lord Krunk said:
I found it to be a bit of a cocktease. Here was me thinking the Celestial Toymaker was going to be the Obligatory Recycled Classic Villain for this season, (I mean, with the Pandorica, 'The Toymaker's Brigade' in Turn Left and the fact that he was a primary villain of 2, who Matt Smith sees to be showing serious vibes of) but instead it just turnedout to be the Doc.
It was the Trickster's Brigade in
Turn Left. The Trickster himself pops up occasionally in
The Sarah Jane Adventures, including the episode with David Tennant in it.
And I believe the Silurians are coming up, which fills the "recycled villain" slot - although the Silurians themselve weren't as outright villainous as other classic-series aliens (especially the Daleks and Cybermen). Mayhap we'll see some Sea Devils too.