Doctor Who Series 6.2 'Day of the Moon' SPOILERS

[Harveypot]

It was retconned, in the Sarah Jane Adventures (spin off show) of all places where he made a cameo appearance. Basically he now has unlimited regenerations.

Oh what the actual fuck!? Who retcons important info like that in the young kid's show? They won't appreciate the data and the adults won't all want to watch it!

That was a joke. In the episode it sounded like the Doctor says a random number to Clyde.

 

[Encurtidos]

"The doctors death doesn't frighten me, nor does my own. There's a far worse day coming for me." What would that mean? Does she mean the day when the doctor doesn't recognize her? (Silence in the Library)

 

[Brockyman]

Okay either...

The girl is the Doctors clone daughter, from David Tennant series...

Or, she's Rory and Amys child but from travelling in the TARDIS the child is essentially Time Lord.

OORRRR she could be the RANI!

 

[Brockyman]

in two minds about the episode- the bit in the orphanage was brilliant and how the doctor defeated the silence was likewise but theres still something about it that doesnt sit right.

I'll tell you what didn't sit right for me:

I don't like guns! Killing is wrong and I deposed a prime minister for it! Genocide is bad and I locked away my own people, a version of myself and stand against it no matter what!

I just made the entire human race into murderers through hypnosis and forced them to commit genocide! Problem, Shadow proclamation? Trolololololol

You have to remember the the Doctor killed his entire species because they were going to enact the Final Sanction (End of Time) and saved the rest of creation, and the MetaCrisis Doctor (created by Donna) killed all the Dalaks b/c they could "slaughter the cosmos". While the real Doctor didn't like it, he seemed to understand it, and left him with Rose to make him better.

While the Doctor doesn't "like" certain things, doesn't mean he won't do them if its necessary, especially with the Silence's abilities, it was the only true step he could take. Plus, the Silence could LEAVE Earth and not all be killed. He just gave humans a fighting chance...

 

[Brockyman]

Something's nagging at me now, when the Doctor died they said he was 200 years older than he currently was but he showed no signs of aging(David Tenant was aged into Dobby the House elf by the master and the master was aged at the end of the universe), the Doctor also has no control over his appearance after regenerating (otherwise he'd have been ginger by now) so how come he hasn't aged in those 200 years?

My guess for the child is that it's an artificial time lord created by The Silence and implanted into Amy whilst she was captured, the reason for her being sick is because the DNA is incomplete and she completes the DNA by taking it from the future Doctor, allowing her to leave the spacesuit and regenerate into a stronger body.

I'm wondering if the Female time lord is going to replace Matt Smith since he dies fully apparently.

That is a good explanation of what could possibly happen. But a female timelord?? I'm trying not to be sexist, I am female as well, but I don't think the show would be as good with a female. He did die fully, and how can they avoid the paradox from happening while not letting him die?? In this series I am really hoping that "Time can be rewritten". Thouroughly dissapointing if the next timelord is a girl...

There was a theory that Donna Noble was going to be the next Doctor after the 2 way MetaCrisis in the last episode of Season 4. I wouldn't have an issue with a female Doctor, but it would need to be it's own spin-off series. The character of the Doctor is male, and should stay that way for this series.

Also, this female Time Lord could be a new character OR could be a rebooted Rani, sort of like they did the Master....

*** As far as the "age thing" the Master aged the Doctor THOUSANDS of years. Maybe 200 isn't enough for a Time Lord to age much...

 

[Thaluikhain]

in two minds about the episode- the bit in the orphanage was brilliant and how the doctor defeated the silence was likewise but theres still something about it that doesnt sit right.

I'll tell you what didn't sit right for me:

I don't like guns! Killing is wrong and I deposed a prime minister for it! Genocide is bad and I locked away my own people, a version of myself and stand against it no matter what!

I just made the entire human race into murderers through hypnosis and forced them to commit genocide! Problem, Shadow proclamation? Trolololololol

Yeah, that was a bit WTF?

Admittedly, you're not supposed to think about the modern stuff, they just chuck stuff at the screen and hope you'll like it, but that was very blatantly out of character.

 

[WolfThomas]

I'll tell you what didn't sit right for me:

I don't like guns! Killing is wrong and I deposed a prime minister for it! Genocide is bad and I locked away my own people, a version of myself and stand against it no matter what!

I just made the entire human race into murderers through hypnosis and forced them to commit genocide! Problem, Shadow proclamation? Trolololololol

There was actually a pretty good post about this recently on Mightgodking

http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2011/05/05/on-moral-culpability-in-doctor-who/

Edit: After the pains they went to last season to show the Doctors celibacy

I don't think he's truly celibate, the first Doctor had a (possible) grand daughter and number Ten said he'd had children to Donna. I think it's more a matter of he sees mating with a human kind of like bestiality combined with paedophila. Not in a nasty or a vindicative way. But simply he knows humans are different both phyiscally, mentally and psychicly, don't live long and doesn't want to have to deal with them getting older and dying while he lives forever. He is an alien, for all we know Timelord romance was super conservative with stuff like psychic mind-melding as an essential part.

 

[Thaluikhain]

No, as the Darlek's pointed out to him, he is the same as them. As much as he feels he has his own superior code of ethics he has in fact committed genocide REPEATEDLY in his life. He has also used what we would call WMDs on several occassions. Moments where he isn't a mass murderer are actually the moments where he slips out of character. I think those moments are actually brought on by the influence of all those humans he travels with and all the time he spends on earth. That Humanity that he borrows from them doesn't seem to be part of timelord culture or thinking.

It is not committing the act itself that is out of character, is is doing it so casually.

Yes, the Doctor does such things when forced to, but only as a last resort, and something he deeply regrets doing. The 4th Doctor's "have I the right?" speech when discussing destroying the daleks in Genesis of the Daleks and his discussions about sweeping changes in Remembrance of the Daleks come to mind.

In this story, however, he quite happily brainwashed the human race into killing the silence, with no regrets at all.

 

[Trolldor]

The kid is Amy and Rory's kid. It has a time head because of the Tardis travelling.

 

[Trolldor]

I'll tell you what didn't sit right for me:

I don't like guns! Killing is wrong and I deposed a prime minister for it! Genocide is bad and I locked away my own people, a version of myself and stand against it no matter what!

I just made the entire human race into murderers through hypnosis and forced them to commit genocide! Problem, Shadow proclamation? Trolololololol

There was actually a pretty good post about this recently on Mightgodking

http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2011/05/05/on-moral-culpability-in-doctor-who/

That's refreshing, I thought I was the only person that bothered, I didn't realise there was a debate going on!

The tenth does wipe out the last of the... spider... people, when he floods them with the Themes.
So, you know, he may not like it but he'll still do it.

 

[Thaluikhain]

The tenth does wipe out the last of the... spider... people, when he floods them with the Themes.
So, you know, he may not like it but he'll still do it.

He got called out on it, though, because that was supposed to be an extreme act. They didn't address it at all here.

[small]Of course, now the obvious thing for the Silence on other worlds to do is to wipe humanity out from orbit before they get beyond the moon.[/small]

 

[Trolldor]

The tenth does wipe out the last of the... spider... people, when he floods them with the Themes.
So, you know, he may not like it but he'll still do it.

He got called out on it, though, because that was supposed to be an extreme act. They didn't address it at all here.

[small]Of course, now the obvious thing for the Silence on other worlds to do is to wipe humanity out from orbit before they get beyond the moon.[/small]

Well, the 11th is far more rash and impulsive than 10, and the silence was the sort of enemy you had to fight there and then because the moment you looked away you would forget them.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Well, the 11th is far more rash and impulsive than 10, and the silence was the sort of enemy you had to fight there and then because the moment you looked away you would forget them.

Again, yes, I agree with the action he took (except that the Silence would logically then eliminate humanity), but I still say he should have been affected by his decision.

 

[WolfThomas]

That's refreshing, I thought I was the only person that bothered, I didn't realise there was a debate going on!

If you enjoyed reading that he had another good article in a similar vein.

http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2011/04/20/who-inherits-the-earth-ontological-nerdiness-and-the-doctor-a-guest-post/

 

[nathan-dts]

Good episode, but did the writers realise that they essentially made the Doctor commit genocide on an alien race that had been on the Earth prior to humans and that had never done anything to harm the human race.