Doctor Who Series 6.2 'Day of the Moon' SPOILERS

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Archemetis

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Possible little girl theories:

The boring: She is Amy's and the Doctor illegitimate child.

The slightly interesting: She's River's Daughter that even they don't know about.
Supported by the fact that Both River and Amy succumbed to sickness in the silence episodes, but did anyone notice that the men never did?

The slightly not likely: Anyone remember the Doctor's Daughter from the Tennant days? Well, maybe just maybe she's regenerated a couple of times since then, since the Doctor got progressively younger with each regeneration why wouldn't the same be for his cloned daughter who, let's face is not as old as him?

How she arrived in 1969, is anyone's guess... (But then again, it's Doctor Who, anything can bloody happen).

But in closing, very interesting episode.
 

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Scrubiii said:
The Disk Thrower said:
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BenTheWolf said:
The Docter does have a child. Coupla series back he ran in on a war and was cloned. His daughter was shot by the end but then regenerated and blasted off into space, we haven't seen her since. Pretty sure it's her after a coupla regenerations.
But why would a 20odd year old regenerate into a child....
This is why I think the theory of it being the Doctors Child from a couple of series ago being a bit crap.

2 other notable things. The 1st is we still didn't find out what that room from the Lodger is really for. The 2nd is River shot a Silence without looking. Writing slip up due to "Rule of Cool" or there's now something else to add to the seemingly never-ending list of questions about River Song.
I'm writing that one up due to "HOLY FUCK SOMETHING BEHIND ME"

OT: random musing, who said it had to be a regeneration?
I agree with the suspiciousness of shooting the one that was standing behind her. At the time I just thought it was one of those cool shots designed to accentuate her badassery, but then, thinking about it, they aren't even supposed to be able to remember that those things exist if they aren't looking at them, so shooting one without looking would require either a random desire to suddenly shoot behind you,something the writers haven't told us, or the writers forgetting/ignoring their own fiction for the sake of a cool shot.
no, I think what most people don't take into account is the fact that The Silence blot out your memories of them on purpose, it's not a natural thing, they can choose whether or not to wipe your memory of them if they want to, but in that chamber near the end there would have been no point considering A)The Doctor and Co. are surrounded by the things, B) they are a little busy charging up they're thunderbolts to worry about wiping memories and C) the Silence that weren't and were busy stopping either River Song from shooting them or making sure the Doctor didn't overload their precious TARDIS prototype(which looks eerily similar to the one in season 5's The Lodger)
 

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New York Patrick said:
I just realized something... isn't the Doctor almost overdue to turn into the Valeyard or something...
I think it's relatively safe to assume it's been retconned to hell. Just like how the writers seem to be having a passive-aggressive fight as to whether Space Jesus can save people from certain events because "time can be rewritten" or not because "some things are meant to be". Also the whole saving Davros after he tried to destroy all of reality ever, and then going on to kill thousands of Daleks, Cybermen (he outright kills one of the "cyberslaves" with the sonic screwdriver), and forces the human race to commit genocide against this race of suited aliens who really havent done anything wrong (Unless him mind-controlling the human race to commit genocide is fine, but them making humanity go to the moon is TERRIBLE).
 

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I don't really like using '...of the Daleks' examples because the Doctor will normally have left them a way out and they are the Daleks, he's kind of got a history with them. For example Davros could have backed down and left at nearly any moment and avoided all that trouble. I don't object to the Doctor killing loads of aliens if he has to but in this episode the aliens weren't even all that instantly dangerous.

Anyway, it's more the 'brainwashing people to turn innocent children and other bystanders into murderers' bit that gets me. The Doctor just made thousands of children in to murderers and they won't have guns, they'll just see one of the Silence, black out and their mind will force them to strangle them or beat them to death. he basically undermined the free will of the species he claims to love most in the galaxy for a victory he didn't particularly need.
I like that it's morally dubious. He's an alien, and his code of ethics shouldn't always tally with ours.

I picked that 7th Doctor episode for a reason: he's a manipulative bastard. He causes the Daleks to come to Earth and people get killed. All as chess pieces in his game to kill the Daleks. He didn't need to do it, he did it because he wanted to, and because he thought that it was right to do so.

And in this episode I like that he turned humanity on the Silence. They were the oppressors, and we were the oppressed fighting back, even if we'll never remember it. And our free will was already violated, we were already brainwashed. The Doctor just turned us on our masters. Yes, it's ethically messy, but as I said, that's the sort of Doctor I like :D

10 was a little too clean and noble for my taste.
 

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Really not liking this new season.
The breaking of canon, introducing a stupid pregnancy plot...
I mean really?

Matt Smith is great, he's not the problem. I am not a fan of so much attention being given to Amy.
The Doctor is a much more interesting character, regardless of how attractive she is.

One more thing: pretty obvious by now that River is the Doctor's Wife and she ends up killing him (hence her being in jail). Why she killed him? Who knows, but the mystery that was in season 4 is pretty much erased now.

Bah (a very unsatisfied Doctor Who fan).
 

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Thyunda said:
They won't remember. And it's for their own good. And it was really the only option.
It's more the knock-on effects that get me as well, in the future humanity is supposed to be everywhere...well what happens to the Silence in 2000 years when humanity lands on their planets? They won't even be the same ones, they'll be innocent creatures killed for no reason.

I don't know, this is me overthinking this episode but it's definitely fridge horror [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeHorror] for me. This is the kind of ill thought-out act that gets a man regenerated!

Overthinking doesn't exist in Doctor Who, don't worry about that. From the looks of it, the Doctor REALLY hates those Silence. Maybe he did not like the idea of them outwitting him. Because that's what they did. They were behind practically everything that he did wrong. In fact, they've always been there over his shoulder, so I s'pose he just seriously hates them. Maybe in the future the message wears off. Maybe it only applied to that sect of Silence. Maybe the rest of the race aren't quite so bad...maybe they look different.
 

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Ok my thoughts about the child it doesn't have to be the Doctors daughter as far as I remember did the Master not regenerate with the same red flames effect the little girl and the doctor both show when regenerating so in theory all Timelords regenerate like that? Which could make her any time lord really, she doesn't have to be a relation.

For all we know if she is Amy's child Amy could be a Timelord victim of a Chameleon Arch, as for the theories the little girl could be the daughter of Amy and the Doctor I've heard going around I would say its unlikely, remember half human - Timelord Donna from the last series she couldn't handle it and hand to make her Timelord half dormant? And afaik the meta-doctor produced from Donna couldn't regenerate and only had a Timelord mind so I'd guess she is pure Timelord not a human Amy - Doctor child.

As for the episode :/ eh I don't think I like the way new episodes are being wrote but thats just me, it does seem though as if the Doctor is a bit to eager/quick to commit to the genocide of a speices.
 

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Okay this has been bugging me, what was the doctor doing to the silence, was he stunning them or something because if he killed any I am going to stab a *****.
Also I was really sad when Rory died for some reason, besides the fact he's awesome/awkward and I'm surprised I was sadder when he died then when Amy died but I think that's because I knew it was coming... Oh and I like the fact the agent was gay with a black guy xD Oh and as much as I hate river song, I did feel a bit sorry for her.
 

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That Guy Who Phails said:
Plinglebob said:
Also, calling it now because someone has too, Pond Jnr = River Song.
You really think they are going to put incest in Doctor Who?

Really?
Hey, they nearly went there with Star Wars, and that was 40 years ago! The times they are a changin'.

OT: I liked it, normally the first half of a series is fucking shit (there was a David Tennant one with a bunch of Little Chefs running around - that always sticks in my mind), the doubles let them do decent story lines, and the budget increase and on-location filming is a big improvement.

I've gotta say though, complaining that the show breaks its own rules is a bit pointless. Its always been full of holes.
 

FinalDream

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Generic Gamer said:
New York Patrick said:
I just realized something... isn't the Doctor almost overdue to turn into the Valeyard or something...
Yyyyes...or no, it depends. It's either his next regeneration or the Master undid and thus reset his regeneration count at the end of season 3 (new). I'm guessing he's going to dodge the bullet or the Valeyard will be retconned into something a bit different.
It was retconned, in the Sarah Jane Adventures (spin off show) of all places where he made a cameo appearance. Basically he now has unlimited regenerations.
 

Mark Flanagan

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Loved tonights episode for loads of reasons but mainly Mark Sheppard's "Welcome to America" line as he shot one of the Silence aliens.

The child was pretty cool too and while I'm loving all the theories wouldn't it be simpler if the little girl was Rory/Amy's baby with the child soaking up Tardis radiation in the womb (thus giving it the power to regenerate), plus didn't something happen in the first season with Rose soaking up time energy?

Just my crazy idea.
 

Rednog

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Two things are still bugging me.
So Amy is in that red room, 1) Who was that thing that looked through the slide panel at her? And she says that's me that's impossible (looks like she is holding a child) so maybe this means the child is somehow hers and it came back in time or was taken at some point by the silence?
2) The kid is the inhabitant of the suit, and the suit comes out of the lake and kills the doctor, maybe Amy has the kid, the doctor screws something up, the kid is left abandoned to the horrible things the silence will do to her. Once the girl is freed from the suit (which she got out with super strength?!) but she is dying so the doctor gives up his regeneration and gives it to the dying girl.
 

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[quote="Plinglebob" post="18.280837.10982012"Time Lords are actually evolved Humans with Amy's kid being either the 1st in a new generation or the first ever Time Lord.[/quote]
I think that'd be interesting, but I don't really see it working.

I, personally, think the little girl is actually the 10th Doctor's daughter/clone thing from the previous season.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
Togs said:
in two minds about the episode- the bit in the orphanage was brilliant and how the doctor defeated the silence was likewise but theres still something about it that doesnt sit right.
I'll tell you what didn't sit right for me:



I don't like guns! Killing is wrong and I deposed a prime minister for it! Genocide is bad and I locked away my own people, a version of myself and stand against it no matter what!



I just made the entire human race into murderers through hypnosis and forced them to commit genocide! Problem, Shadow proclamation? Trolololololol
Ah yes but the doctor doesn't mind resorting to killing if he has no other choice
EG: in the episode "End of time" the doctor grabs a gun because he finds out the timelords are returning, so if the foe is great enough he will resort to killing them.