Does pornography take advantage of women?

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Leorex

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mjp19xx said:
As long as you are not forced the answer is no. In fact women in porn make far more money than male actors on average. It is also quite sexist to act like only men like porn.
no, really, only men like porn.
 

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perryman93 said:
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The woman chooses to be in porn. So, no.
If they are in it by their choice, then no, they should know what they are getting into. If they are forced or blackmailed into it, or someone gets them drunk and then puts them in it, then yes it is taking advantage of them.

that actually happened to a friend of mine, she got drunk and her (then) boyfriend convinced her to strip and masturbate on camera, then sent it to all his mates while he was drunk.
that is taking advantage!
Well part of it is her fault for getting drunk in the first place.

Plus that doesn't really count as pornography. If the boyfriend was selling the video for profit, then it would count. As it stands now it's just something that makes your friend look foolish.
i never said she had no fault in it, but he did take advantage of her stupidity to get drunk!!!
So what's your point? Bad things happen to stupid people?
 

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Leorex said:
mjp19xx said:
As long as you are not forced the answer is no. In fact women in porn make far more money than male actors on average. It is also quite sexist to act like only men like porn.
no, really, only men like porn.
I call bullshit.
 

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I've heard it proposed that the porn industry frequently decieves young women, telling them that acting in a porno flick will work like a stepping stone for a legitimate acting career. However, I've never actually looked into any evidence to support this claim, so I wouldn't be able to say if its a viable argument or not.

However, I do think it seems unlikely that every woman who has ever participated in porn was decieved. The fact is that our society, despite all the advances we've made, still is not ready to accept that females can be every bit as sexual as males; so female sexuality is deplored. Those in strongest opposition to porn tend to be Christian fundamentalists, and that really shouldn't be a surprise at all. If you take your morals from a book with as much mysogyny as the Bible has (and for those who haven't taken the time to read it, there's a rediculous amount of mysogyny in the Bible), then of course you'll be unwilling to accept that a woman could live the pornstar life and be happy with it.

In the sense that pornography could objectify women, the fact is that is probably does. However, people who view porn also understand that they are indulging in a fantasy, and while it is possible that some people might not be able to seperate this from the actuality of life, most people understand that women are not objects.
 

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If it's voluntary? No. If not? Then it's rape, and yes. There isn't much I have to say on this besides that.

ix_tab said:
Ah, that is true. Well, I was operating under the perfect world assumption that there was no outside influences involved. Outside of the perfect world theory though, yeah. Your argument is the best.
 

Booze Zombie

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The women choose to star in said pornography, exploiting the sexuality of hetrosexuals and lesbians.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
perryman93 said:
Internet Kraken said:
perryman93 said:
Drake the Dragonheart said:
TheNecroswanson said:
The woman chooses to be in porn. So, no.
If they are in it by their choice, then no, they should know what they are getting into. If they are forced or blackmailed into it, or someone gets them drunk and then puts them in it, then yes it is taking advantage of them.

that actually happened to a friend of mine, she got drunk and her (then) boyfriend convinced her to strip and masturbate on camera, then sent it to all his mates while he was drunk.
that is taking advantage!
Well part of it is her fault for getting drunk in the first place.

Plus that doesn't really count as pornography. If the boyfriend was selling the video for profit, then it would count. As it stands now it's just something that makes your friend look foolish.
i never said she had no fault in it, but he did take advantage of her stupidity to get drunk!!!
So what's your point? Bad things happen to stupid people?
i never said she wasnt stupid either, she was fairly!!
 

TerribleTerryTate

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Generally they chose to be in the pornography, and generally they get paid. In these instances I fail to see how it's taking advantage of women. Why would it just be taking advantage of women anyways? Surely if it's taking advantage of women, it takes advantage of men too, or am I missing something?

Anyways, if they chose to be a part of it, and they get money for being a part of it, simply put: no.
 

Jeronus

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Seriously, why does she assume the woman is the only one being exploited maybe a guy could be the exploited one for a change. What is her definition of exploitation in porn? Is it because the man is fucking the woman? I have seen a woman fucking a man and he certainly didn't look like he was being exploited.
 

Leorex

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ix_tab said:
Short answer: yes.

Long answer: The sex industry is based around demeaning women. Despite the ridiculous rumours, people do not get into the sex industry because they like to bang, they get into it because they need money fast, and they don't have qualifications.

There are many porn directors who aren't creepy sleezeballs, who respect their actresses and actors and create interesting alternative porn, where you can nearly guarentee that the majority of them aren't off their tits on various stimulants.

And there are many who are just gross human beings.

Anyone who really wants to argue on the side of porn, look at gonzo porn, and tell me that after that you feel that porn empowers women.

On the other hand, my little sister offered this justification for the porn industry, which makes me laugh every time, then reprimand myself: SKANKS NEED JOBS TOO, ERINNA :mad:

Thank you, little sister for your helpful remarks.
i dont think any one is arguing that these people are the top of there class, or that porn is empowering woman, at least im not. and again, i do beleave some porn is unneeded abuse. but i agree with your sister. skanks need jobs too.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Leorex said:
mjp19xx said:
As long as you are not forced the answer is no. In fact women in porn make far more money than male actors on average. It is also quite sexist to act like only men like porn.
no, really, only men like porn.
I call bullshit.
I also call bullshit, Leorex fought to include lesbians.
 

CY_Definitive

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I'd say that it seems alot more common for MEN to be getting taken advantage of.

Ever seen Bangbus? Even though its acting, how embarrasing would it be to be the guy in the vid who cant maintain an erection or hold back their climax long enough for the professional actress?

And also, women are payed much higher than men for the same roles.

Sure, maybe Tina Topless's Daddy didn't love her, and she takes some whiskey before a scene (they serve alchohol, along with food sometimes), but hey, its her choice.
 

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Can't remember who said it exactly, but woman pornographer once said:

''We're not exploiting women, we're exploiting middle aged men with credit cards''

Though most people who have watched significant amounts of porn on the net will probably have seen at least one scene with suspect motivation from the girl.
 

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perryman93 said:
Internet Kraken said:
perryman93 said:
Internet Kraken said:
perryman93 said:
Drake the Dragonheart said:
TheNecroswanson said:
The woman chooses to be in porn. So, no.
If they are in it by their choice, then no, they should know what they are getting into. If they are forced or blackmailed into it, or someone gets them drunk and then puts them in it, then yes it is taking advantage of them.

that actually happened to a friend of mine, she got drunk and her (then) boyfriend convinced her to strip and masturbate on camera, then sent it to all his mates while he was drunk.
that is taking advantage!
Well part of it is her fault for getting drunk in the first place.

Plus that doesn't really count as pornography. If the boyfriend was selling the video for profit, then it would count. As it stands now it's just something that makes your friend look foolish.
i never said she had no fault in it, but he did take advantage of her stupidity to get drunk!!!
So what's your point? Bad things happen to stupid people?
i never said she wasnt stupid either, she was fairly!!
So, again, what's your point?
 

Perryman93

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Internet Kraken said:
perryman93 said:
Internet Kraken said:
perryman93 said:
Internet Kraken said:
perryman93 said:
Drake the Dragonheart said:
TheNecroswanson said:
The woman chooses to be in porn. So, no.
If they are in it by their choice, then no, they should know what they are getting into. If they are forced or blackmailed into it, or someone gets them drunk and then puts them in it, then yes it is taking advantage of them.

that actually happened to a friend of mine, she got drunk and her (then) boyfriend convinced her to strip and masturbate on camera, then sent it to all his mates while he was drunk.
that is taking advantage!
Well part of it is her fault for getting drunk in the first place.

Plus that doesn't really count as pornography. If the boyfriend was selling the video for profit, then it would count. As it stands now it's just something that makes your friend look foolish.
i never said she had no fault in it, but he did take advantage of her stupidity to get drunk!!!
So what's your point? Bad things happen to stupid people?
i never said she wasnt stupid either, she was fairly!!
So, again, what's your point?
i dunno, there wasn't really a point i was just laughing at someone's stupidity
 

Nanissimov

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Thing about pornography (other than child) its a choice, The girl has no clue what shewas talking about. Plus its the guys right to look at pornography
 

CY_Definitive

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Crabid said:
Can't remember who said it exactly, but woman pornographer once said:

''We're not exploiting women, we're exploiting middle aged men with credit cards''

Though most people who have watched significant amounts of porn on the net will probably have seen at least one scene with suspect motivation from the girl.
Credit Cards? Ha! They must not realize we can just download the preview clips from hub websites. Tee hee hee.