Does this sicken you? I mean wtf.

[FrederickPlus]

Not sure if this is really much more than the media looking to outrage 'sheeple' - which is what they do best.

Seriously, this was completely harmless. Haven't you guys ever had a pet that you've played with? So what if it was at the "expense" of the roo's "integrity"... because I doubt the roo is crying itself to sleep. It seems only humans look for meaning where there is none.

As someone mentioned earlier in the thread... Take that leash off, and that clown's ass would've been handed back to him.

It's my one of my national animals but if I was to worry about this, I'd have to stop playing with my Bulldog just in case Britain finds it offensive.

 

[niglett]

i loled

 

[The3rdEye]

All rights regarding the dignity and fair treatment of non-human species aside, and approaching this from the Aussie-focused sub current going here...

Don't Australians actually eat kangaroos as a readily available dish in major city centers? I'm not saying "All" or "Most", but it is substantially more common than say, a bald eagle omelet or beaver pie isn't it? It would be hard for me personally to listen to protests regarding an affront to your national animal when they're being made around bite sized pieces of Baby 'Roo.

 

[FrederickPlus]

Yeah we have roo meat in most of our supermarkets... and I used to mince them in a pet food factory.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

I want to become royalty there.

Did you hear about the attempted coup?

No, no I haven't.

. . . Texas isn't exactly know for it's understanding and sensible people. . .

What is it known for then?

Being a low economy state and for having a governor that doesn't know its against the constitution for states to concede.

There's nothing really in the constitution that says an independent state can't secede. As per our admittance into the U.S., we are a free and independent state and are only subject to the constitution. Not that it really matters.

And low economy is an outright lie, our state income is on the same level as India and Canada. Texas makes as much money as either India or Canada. We can do this since we are just like any other state in America except for our large size.

 

[scw55]

I find it sickening because it's an animal. I belive animals should never be used as part as entertainment. They have no way of giving their opinnions.

I however do not find it is mistreating a national symbol. It just so happens it's an animal associated with Australia.

I won't get worked up if some entertainment show abused a sheep in regards to feeling like my National Symbol of wales; a sheep is being abused.
I would get worked up because it's an animal; a sheep getting abused. National pride has nothing to do with it.

 

[Angerwing]

I want to become royalty there.

Did you hear about the attempted coup?

No, no I haven't.

Direct copy+paste from wiki:

Forcible takeover
In 1978, while Bates was away, Alexander Achenbach, who describes himself as the Prime Minister of Sealand, and several German and Dutch citizens staged a forcible takeover of Roughs Tower, holding Bates' son Michael captive, before releasing him several days later in the Netherlands. Bates thereupon enlisted armed assistance and, in a helicopter assault, retook the fort. He then held the invaders captive, claiming them as prisoners of war. Most participants in the invasion were repatriated at the cessation of the conflict, but Achenbach, a German lawyer who held a Sealand passport, was charged with treason against Sealand and was held unless he paid DM 75,000 (more than US$ 35,000). The governments of the Netherlands and Germany petitioned the British government for his release, but the United Kingdom disavowed his imprisonment, citing the 1968 court decision. Germany then sent a diplomat from its London embassy to Roughs Tower to negotiate for Achenbach's release. Roy Bates relented after several weeks of negotiations and subsequently claimed that the diplomat's visit constituted de facto recognition of Sealand by Germany. Following his repatriation, Achenbach established a "government in exile", sometimes known as the Sealand Rebel Government, in Germany, in opposition to Roy Bates, assuming the name "Chairman of the Privy Council". He handed the position to Johannes Seiger in 1989 because of illness. Seiger continues to claim?via his website?that he is Sealand's legitimate ruling authority.

I removed all the citations and stuff. Bates is the leader.

Man this place reminds me of the Republic of Dave.

 

[CommyGingerbreadMan]

I want to become royalty there.

Did you hear about the attempted coup?

No, no I haven't.

. . . Texas isn't exactly know for it's understanding and sensible people. . .

What is it known for then?

Being a low economy state and for having a governor that doesn't know its against the constitution for states to concede.

There's nothing really in the constitution that says an independent state can't secede. As per our admittance into the U.S., we are a free and independent state and are only subject to the constitution. Not that it really matters.

And low economy is an outright lie, our state income is on the same level as India and Canada. Texas makes as much money as either India or Canada. We can do this since we are just like any other state in America except for our large size.

Well yea, its kinda why the South didn't want to join originally, because they couldn't back out. Besides forced. As for the low economy well, pretty much yea, nothing to share there but my own ignorance for listening to my teacher w/o looking that one up.

*Edit* Not a fault on my teacher's. The damn chart was from worst to best. So. . . just my ignorance on not reading charts and trying to be funny.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

I want to become royalty there.

Did you hear about the attempted coup?

No, no I haven't.

Direct copy+paste from wiki:

Forcible takeover
In 1978, while Bates was away, Alexander Achenbach, who describes himself as the Prime Minister of Sealand, and several German and Dutch citizens staged a forcible takeover of Roughs Tower, holding Bates' son Michael captive, before releasing him several days later in the Netherlands. Bates thereupon enlisted armed assistance and, in a helicopter assault, retook the fort. He then held the invaders captive, claiming them as prisoners of war. Most participants in the invasion were repatriated at the cessation of the conflict, but Achenbach, a German lawyer who held a Sealand passport, was charged with treason against Sealand and was held unless he paid DM 75,000 (more than US$ 35,000). The governments of the Netherlands and Germany petitioned the British government for his release, but the United Kingdom disavowed his imprisonment, citing the 1968 court decision. Germany then sent a diplomat from its London embassy to Roughs Tower to negotiate for Achenbach's release. Roy Bates relented after several weeks of negotiations and subsequently claimed that the diplomat's visit constituted de facto recognition of Sealand by Germany. Following his repatriation, Achenbach established a "government in exile", sometimes known as the Sealand Rebel Government, in Germany, in opposition to Roy Bates, assuming the name "Chairman of the Privy Council". He handed the position to Johannes Seiger in 1989 because of illness. Seiger continues to claim?via his website?that he is Sealand's legitimate ruling authority.

I removed all the citations and stuff. Bates is the leader.

Man this place reminds me of the Republic of Dave.

Micro politics are awesome!

 

[crimson5pheonix]

I want to become royalty there.

Did you hear about the attempted coup?

No, no I haven't.

. . . Texas isn't exactly know for it's understanding and sensible people. . .

What is it known for then?

Being a low economy state and for having a governor that doesn't know its against the constitution for states to concede.

There's nothing really in the constitution that says an independent state can't secede. As per our admittance into the U.S., we are a free and independent state and are only subject to the constitution. Not that it really matters.

And low economy is an outright lie, our state income is on the same level as India and Canada. Texas makes as much money as either India or Canada. We can do this since we are just like any other state in America except for our large size.

Well yea, its kinda why the South didn't want to join originally, because they couldn't back out. Besides forced. As for the low economy well, pretty much yea, nothing to share there but my own ignorance for listening to my teacher w/o looking that one up.

Yes, the southern states can't back out, but Texas is special. Our state constitution is the only one that says we are a free and independent state. We could make an argument for not listening to the president or congress, but that would only cause problems.

 

[CommyGingerbreadMan]

I want to become royalty there.

Did you hear about the attempted coup?

No, no I haven't.

. . . Texas isn't exactly know for it's understanding and sensible people. . .

What is it known for then?

Being a low economy state and for having a governor that doesn't know its against the constitution for states to concede.

There's nothing really in the constitution that says an independent state can't secede. As per our admittance into the U.S., we are a free and independent state and are only subject to the constitution. Not that it really matters.

And low economy is an outright lie, our state income is on the same level as India and Canada. Texas makes as much money as either India or Canada. We can do this since we are just like any other state in America except for our large size.

Well yea, its kinda why the South didn't want to join originally, because they couldn't back out. Besides forced. As for the low economy well, pretty much yea, nothing to share there but my own ignorance for listening to my teacher w/o looking that one up.

Yes, the southern states can't back out, but Texas is special. Our state constitution is the only one that says we are a free and independent state. We could make an argument for not listening to the president or congress, but that would only cause problems.

I do wonder though how it would be handled? Guns blazing would make things worse.

 

[mrx19869]

Whoever wrote this article needs to do his research. The kangaroo is actually hated in Australia, its like a rat to them....

Its not hated,they just breed to plague numbers and destroy farmland.Which is our own fault really,bringing european farming practices to a land which is basically one big desert.

you just nilled your own argument by proving how much of an annoyance this animal is...

i say again... Australians dislike the kangaroo. oh and some people eat them..

 

[Carlston]

Honestly, I lived in Texas for about 30 years now. Moved here when I was five. And I find the people fairly understanding, the laws strict and the punishments even stricter. There is a reason every comedian worth his salt uses the joke about some states have death row, Texas put in a Express lane.

Watch Animal Cops Houston, they crack down on animal abuse a lot. And not just two hundred dollar fines like some states. Your get into the two thousand dollar fines plus jail time.

The Stereo types are sad to. You know how much Aussie hated Paul Hogan and Crocodile Dundee? Well Houston, my town is a city of four million people. It is about a hour and a half drive from the south east extreame to the north west. And that's at 70 miles a hour on one of the better laid out freeways systems in the US. So we aren't Hodunk Yeehaws.

Second largest port city in the US, one of the larger International Hubs in the US, and fairly non-tolerant of animal abuse. Mostly due to the city being fine hungry for funding.

Looking at this show, I rate it as abusive as the poodle in a sweater hoping on it's hind legs waving it's front paws like arms. So, not abusive at all. Degrading? Well it's a dog it doesn't care unless it doesn't get it's treat for doing the trick.

If so much that Kanga got rained on the SPAC would be all over that show like Mikey Jackson to a boyscout Jubilee.

Why does the fact that it's in Texas not surprise me? Some people are sick.

Because Texas is the only state in America that embodies all of the stereotypes-and the things people hate- about America.

As for the incident itself, its sad, but it could have been far worse. In Korea or China that thing would have been eaten afterward.

Oh really? How long have you lived here? How much of the state have you seen? Yeah we have our idiot toothless masses but so do you... so does everyone.

 

[Carlston]

I personally support Animal rights to the extent of not getting abused, which is what this is.

Texas did this? That explains everything. Mexico needs to get a better army and attack Texas; it could definitely afford a bit of population control.

That's funny. Mexico's army can't even bust drug dealers. And most the down boarder Militia nuts are armed better than them. If we had any more Mexican influence from the Illegals here, not only would the Kangaroo be really abused, covered in sores, starved and beaten. Hell after the show they'd slit it's throat and cook it up right there.

Texas needs to invade Mexico, we already have to take care of it's people might as well take the realestate...

But since we have things called standards in buildings, sewers (that don't explode due to methan build up) dump raw sewage in our rivers for the hell of it and have things called health standards it would bankrupt the rest of the nation try to clean it up.

We'd a better chance of turning Bill Clinton into a US marine.

 

[Carlston]

I thought people stopped trying to box with Roos back in the 1800's.

Besides being cruel its just plain fucking stupid.Those Roo legs will break bones, and or,slice you open with its claws.

Like Bull fighting, Honestly I WANT to see the Roo break that morons legs. As I want to see the Russian wrestling a bear be mauled, the guy sticking his head in a lions mouth get chomped... I still don't see it as Cruel as the roo isn't being harmed in any way. Just made to look silly. Like putting clothing on a dog...

 

[Carlston]

So forcing bears to dance is illegal but driving a kangaroo into an insane boxing frenzy is A-okay?
Excuse me, I need to find the mystical and long-forgotten item known as common sense.

Give me a call when you've found it, please. (I wanted to do a missing-wife joke here, but that would've been too lame)

It's Dangerous to go Alone...

OT: Some people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy. That kangaroo boxing cartoon must've looked like a great idea... Did you know someone beat Curly (of The Three Stooges) over the head with an actual hammer? He thought he'd be fine, just like on the show. It's also the reason this happens.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-03-10/boy-dies-after-imitating-naruto-in-sandbox

Bottom line: horrible but largely unsurprising.

-raises hand- Umm I've seen Naruto and never recall ANY power he had with his head burried in the sand. Sounds like a case of the USA allowing kids to blame their invisible friend/tv/videogames for being stupid.

What kills me is they keep getting away with it.

And if someone knows the episode please tell me it...Cause I call BS on this one.

 

[Carlston]

This just goes to show that certain Americans living in Texas are a bunch of cruel, gun-totting idiots. Whos idea was it to make a kangaroo kick-box? What's next, a dancing bear? What the fuck.

Not even many Texans act like that. I don't think I've ever seen a stereotypical Texan. It's unfair to stereotype.

I said CERTAIN Americans livng in Texas are a bunch of cruel, gun-totting idiots. Not the majority.

Well why not "certain" Americans living in America are cruel gun-totiting idiots?
If the show is touring all over why target one state? You know one of the US states with probley the stricter enforcement of animal cruelty laws...

 

[Carlston]

Did the kangaroo get hurt?

If so, no, I'm not offended at all, but an apology should be made and it should never be done again.

If the kangaroo wasn't hurt, get over it. I'm pretty big on animal rights, but this isn't animal abuse here.

Tying a rope around an animal and having someone punch it in the face, numerus times is not animal abuse to you?

I looked for a video of this, and didn't see anything of the sort. If the guys punched the animal, then why didn't the other 49 states of the US catch it and stop it before it got to Texas if it's on tour?

Or we talking about the 1800's boxing? Cause no way in the age of cell phones, Peta and the like would that little stunt happen for that long.

 

[Carlston]

"Texas". Need I really say any more? Now I know, to celebrate a country, knock this shit out of an icon.

Eh? No, not really. Texas is more known for defending tooth and nail at the Alamo, then beating the Mexican Army by sending a undercover Ho to Santa Anna's tent. And then abusing them while they take their afternoon se'etsa nap.

My question is, WTF does a boxing Kangaroo have to do with a Touring Cirus and KRAFT? Vegimite and mac and cheese = Kanga boxing in my state? Sounds like something stupid Vegas would do to get tourists. Sure as hell not my area.

 

[The Maddest March Hare]

The simple fact they're willing to do that to any animal, national symbol or otherwise, is horrific. I'm glad the poll is currently at 75% saying it should be banned from being done.

What the fuck are the other 25% thinking? They better all be undecided (which is a pretty unsettling answer itself).

If someone did that to a bald eagle (from US, obviously), I'd fucking kill the bastard. Animals (much less national emblem-related animals) are not punching bags.

It's a sad fact that there are always going to be some people who find this kind of thing entertaining. I wish it wasn't true, but it is. I see 25% as a pretty decent number because at least in any form of official poll to stop this it looks like the majority vote will get it banned..