Does using the dodge roll in SSBB make you cheap? and other questionably cheap techniques.

[Robert632]

i and my brother use it all the time, but espeicialy me. and yet he still beats me alot. of course he's scary good with kirby.

 

[blackshark121]

My friends start yelling how I'm a fag, gay, an asshole,

Here's a life lesson: You have shitty friends.

I am now convinced that there is either something horribly wrong with you, and they are the best you could do, or else you grew up with them and feel bad about the idea of defriending them (with a knife.)

Moral of the story?
People judge you based on many factors - friends included.

ANYWHOSITS, (I can just see the people who look at that and conclude that I am secretly or not-so-secretly extremely gay,) "anything to win."
Pyrrhic victories not included.

Thanks for the concern, but I'm in a college dorm, and they are the only ones with a Wii, so its them or nothing.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

I use a serve in Tabletennis which has no spin but is really fast and long and quite deceptive. It's relatively cheap but it works so I'm not all that bothered.

 

[Yukinari]

Playing brawl, the only way to protect yourself is to sheild, roll out the way, or air-dodge.
Better things to do are to meteor smash opponents and to chain grab attacks.
(And play Brawl Plus, its way better than the original Brawl)

 

[Clashero]

I used to annoy my friends no end with Marth's Parry attack on SSB2

The same with Soul Calibur; I was a master with Raphael, and parrying with him opens up guards sooo easily. My friend was unbeaten with Talim, until I came along lol.

But yeh, it's not cheap, they suck lol. It's not that difficult either, it's just the timing that you need to get down with the rolling. I never used the shields though.

I had a friend who was amazing with Raphael as well. He parried and dodged most blows. Among our circle of friends, I was the only one who could beat him on a 50-50 basis, by using Setsuka. He parried and dodged, I Guard Impact'd and made use of Setsuka's lightning-quick two-strike combos to get counters*. Our friends called us cheap, but hey, that's how those characters are meant to be played.

* if you're reading this and don't play Soul Calibur, a counter in SC is not what you think it is. Countering in SC means to hit the enemy while he's doing something other than standing still, like attacking or moving.

 

[A Weary Exile]

If it's a part of the game, and other players have access to it, then no, it isn't "cheap".

This should be one of the gaming ten commandments, I'm tired of people calling things cheap because they can't come up with a successful counter for it. The only exception that I can think of would be (As mentioned above) the Star Fox/Wolf/Falco Final Smashes, they are avoidable but they take up the whole damn stage, they could make them a tiny bit less powerful.

 

[twistedmic]

No, I don't think it's cheating. As long as you haven't hacked the game or put in a code you're just utilizing a different play style than run around like a maniac flailing wildly.
I had to deal with people bitching about my own play style when I played SSB Melee with some friends. I'd usually choose Samus and rely heavily on her missile and charge shot attacks.

I even worked out a fairly reliable combo that could regularly take out an enemy in three hits. Fully charge the charge shot, grapple beam throw someone off the edge, wait for them to almost reach the platform edge before hitting them with a missile, wait for them to get close to the edge a second time then fire the power shot and their gone.

 

[Numb1lp]

If a game gives you something, you should use it. Unless it makes you good, because then you're just being a d***.

 

[dancinginfernal]

I punch my friends in the balls while playing CoD4 and then kill them.

They call that cheap for some reason. I don't. I call it politics.

You sir, are my hero.

OT: Like others are saying, if it's in the game for everyone to use it's not a cheat/cheap.

 

[leighjet]

your just better than them
dodging and rolling is all part of the game

 

[NeutralDrow]

Who's right, am I an ass for using the dodge roll, or do they just suck?

They suck. They suck horribly. The suck quotient is unbelievable. The amount of their suck would shame an industrial-strength vacuum cleaner in quicksand, and push anthropomorphized black holes to incredulous laughter.

I mean, come on, rolling?! That's been in every single one of the games, it's laughably easy to do, a necessary component of any level of play above "infant," and has rather easy workarounds. If I had a quarter every time I rolled right into someone's fully-charged smash, I could live in an arcade for a month.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

Screen looking is cheap

anything else is ok in my book. Don't let anyone say you're doing somethign wrong that a game maker didn't bother to adress.

 

[SantoUno]

Dodging isn't cheap, that is actually what you HAVE to do if you wanna be a pro in SSB, the fact that they consider it cheap means they're pathetic losers because they can't get anymore skilled than randomly mashing their attack buttons.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Move's placed into games are not cheap. I don't see the logic in not using a handy move that the Developers put in.

 

[Lazzi]

Another issue is general play style. Im not a person that likes to run in guns ablazing and do strings of heavy damage. I like to play keep away and were my opponets down bit by bit.

Is it fun for the other person who has trouble getting a hit in? Most likely not. But Im playing the game for MY enjoyment, not any one elses.

Im a fan of mobile or tactical characters. Snake, Samus, Shike/Zelda, Lucas/Ness and Pit for the most part. The fact that they al atleast have semi dertible missle attacks works great for me.

 

[THEMILKMAN]

The only things that make you a fag in SSBB is if you use Final Smashes or you have items on. Items should be off!

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Presumably these moves were put in there to be used. If you're a skilled enough player, you should be able to counter them. I say the same thing when people whine about certain characters being cheap. No the moves/characters aren't cheap, you're just a sore loser. (or in this case, your friends)

 

[Bilbo536]

Nah, it's not cheap. But it can get really annoying when you're playing against people who overuse it (and I mean REALLY overuse it). I mean, I just wanna fight and they're just rolling all over the place!

 

[DragonsAteMyMarbles]

Of course, it makes perfect sense for a developer to put in a mechanic with the intention of people not using it.
Same goes for the assertion that using "cheap" characters means you're not playing it right - when a decent player can usually find ways to counter said character.
Assertions of "cheapness" are the domain of the <url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Scrub>Scrub.
The kind of person who, in extreme cases, will say that since I play the piano, I have an unfair advantage, since my fingers can move a tiny bit faster than they otherwise would have been able to.

On the other hand, there are people out there who will insist that the only "real" way to play involves everyone using the same character, on Final Destination every time, with items turned off. Otherwise known as <url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StopHavingFunGuys>Stop Having Fun Guys.