VicunaBlue said:Please, Please stop flaming people. While I have nothing but the utmost respect for our troops, I would like for you to stop flaming everyone who voices an opinion that conflicts with yours.Smagmuck08 said:Oh, by the way, I'm all for peoples opinions, I just don't like it when some dirt-bag like you, who have never seen a friend come back missing an arm or a leg. People like you need to be tossed out there and live a week with our troops, see how they like it when someone like you bashes them for doing nothing but fallowing orders and fighting to keep their brothers, sons, fathers and mothers from having to face shit like having cars blowing up by the post office when their ten feet away watching thier friend or kids being killed in front of thier eye. Chew on that!Gormourn said:So overly scared people inspired by tons of flowing propaganda are somehow better then a group of more or less thinking people who might -gasp- have opposing opinions? Freedom, yeah. Look at yourself.Smagmuck08 said:Wakefield said:You know. You can oppose the war but still support the troops.Smagmuck08 said:snip
Whatever... The reason I'm that upset is becuase of what it use to be like just after 9/11. When no one cared what party you belonged to, what race, religon and so on. But this, this, just pisses me off when eight years ago those same people wanted to go in and kick some terrorist ass, now. My god this country is in the hole. Ugh, I just want to see my brother come back from the middle east in one peice.
Funny thing is, the terrorists are being created is response to perceived foreign aggression.Smagmuck08 said:You have a point, a family friend of mine came home last week, he was missing both his legs, we both locked eyes and he had the look that said "It was worth it." Hereing idiots bash people like him just gets me fired up, I'm sorry escapist community, but I can't respect people who oppose something that, if we wern't there many innocent people would be dead. This shit's turning into 'nam era USA every fucking day. By, the way, Gorourn... Drop dead. There I'm done.
Gormourn said:Again, emotions. And assumptions. What's "having a friend come back missing an arm or a leg" has to do with the validity of the so called "war" that I assume we're discussing? Yes, people get hurt in a war. So do people who aren't in a war, like policemen and firemen. And even factory workers. And yes, it'd suck if you were their relative. But it doesn't make your opinion more valid.Smagmuck08 said:Oh, by the way, I'm all for peoples opinions, I just don't like it when some dirt-bag like you, who have never seen a friend come back missing an arm or a leg. People like you need to be tossed out there and live a week with our troops, see how they like it when someone like you bashes them for doing nothing but fallowing orders and fighting to keep their brothers, sons, fathers and mothers from having to face shit like having cars blowing up by the post office when their ten feet away watching thier friend or kids being killed in front of thier eyes. Chew on that!Gormourn said:So overly scared people inspired by tons of flowing propaganda are somehow better then a group of more or less thinking people who might -gasp- have opposing opinions? Freedom, yeah. Look at yourself.Smagmuck08 said:Wakefield said:You know. You can oppose the war but still support the troops.Smagmuck08 said:snip
Whatever... The reason I'm that upset is becuase of what it use to be like just after 9/11. When no one cared what party you belonged to, what race, religon and so on. But this, this, just pisses me off when eight years ago those same people wanted to go in and kick some terrorist ass, now. My god this country is in the hole. Ugh, I just want to see my brother come back from the middle east in one peice.
Just because someone "faces shit all the time" doesn't make them superior. Sure, we can all talk about how "heroic" soldiers are - because of our shit values developed from who knows what ages. I'd say that a businessman making a hard decision that WILL affect thousands of people, either working in the company or just people, is as much of a hero. A doctor is a hero. A worker is a hero.
You know nothing about me or anyone else. Actually neutrally look at what war is and what it's effects might be - and how overly beneficial they can be in this case first - but whatever, you won't. Chew on your nationalism and propaganda and live your lie.
Gormourn said:Again, emotions. And assumptions. What's "having a friend come back missing an arm or a leg" has to do with the validity of the so called "war" that I assume we're discussing? Yes, people get hurt in a war. So do people who aren't in a war, like policemen and firemen. And even factory workers. And yes, it'd suck if you were their relative. But it doesn't make your opinion more valid.Smagmuck08 said:Oh, by the way, I'm all for peoples opinions, I just don't like it when some dirt-bag like you, who have never seen a friend come back missing an arm or a leg. People like you need to be tossed out there and live a week with our troops, see how they like it when someone like you bashes them for doing nothing but fallowing orders and fighting to keep their brothers, sons, fathers and mothers from having to face shit like having cars blowing up by the post office when their ten feet away watching thier friend or kids being killed in front of thier eyes. Chew on that!Gormourn said:So overly scared people inspired by tons of flowing propaganda are somehow better then a group of more or less thinking people who might -gasp- have opposing opinions? Freedom, yeah. Look at yourself.Smagmuck08 said:Wakefield said:You know. You can oppose the war but still support the troops.Smagmuck08 said:snip
Whatever... The reason I'm that upset is becuase of what it use to be like just after 9/11. When no one cared what party you belonged to, what race, religon and so on. But this, this, just pisses me off when eight years ago those same people wanted to go in and kick some terrorist ass, now. My god this country is in the hole. Ugh, I just want to see my brother come back from the middle east in one peice.
Just because someone "faces shit all the time" doesn't make them superior. Sure, we can all talk about how "heroic" soldiers are - because of our shit values developed from who knows what ages. I'd say that a businessman making a hard decision that WILL affect thousands of people, either working in the company or just people, is as much of a hero. A doctor is a hero. A worker is a hero.
You know nothing about me or anyone else. Actually neutrally look at what war is and what it's effects might be - and how overly beneficial they can be in this case first - but whatever, you won't. Chew on your nationalism and propaganda and live your lie.
Thank you! finally someone who actually sides with me on a few things.strangemoose said:people need to stop protesting the war in Afghanistan because if we dont do anything they are going to end up droping nukes all over the place.
and if you don't agree with me then don't bombard me with hate mail
Gormourn said:That's pretty bad.
I kind of keep my head under a rock most of the time.
i liked this.Worgen said:its really weird, its like if your protesting for peace then its like a call for these asshats to attack but if your protesting something stupid like thoes teabagger dicks then you never get the beating you so richly deserve
wow, your strange and pointless anger is actually kind of funny. I like how you really stuck it to him at the end with more internet rage.Smagmuck08 said:Gormourn said:Again, emotions. And assumptions. What's "having a friend come back missing an arm or a leg" has to do with the validity of the so called "war" that I assume we're discussing? Yes, people get hurt in a war. So do people who aren't in a war, like policemen and firemen. And even factory workers. And yes, it'd suck if you were their relative. But it doesn't make your opinion more valid.Smagmuck08 said:Oh, by the way, I'm all for peoples opinions, I just don't like it when some dirt-bag like you, who have never seen a friend come back missing an arm or a leg. People like you need to be tossed out there and live a week with our troops, see how they like it when someone like you bashes them for doing nothing but fallowing orders and fighting to keep their brothers, sons, fathers and mothers from having to face shit like having cars blowing up by the post office when their ten feet away watching thier friend or kids being killed in front of thier eyes. Chew on that!Gormourn said:So overly scared people inspired by tons of flowing propaganda are somehow better then a group of more or less thinking people who might -gasp- have opposing opinions? Freedom, yeah. Look at yourself.Smagmuck08 said:Wakefield said:You know. You can oppose the war but still support the troops.Smagmuck08 said:snip
Whatever... The reason I'm that upset is becuase of what it use to be like just after 9/11. When no one cared what party you belonged to, what race, religon and so on. But this, this, just pisses me off when eight years ago those same people wanted to go in and kick some terrorist ass, now. My god this country is in the hole. Ugh, I just want to see my brother come back from the middle east in one peice.
Just because someone "faces shit all the time" doesn't make them superior. Sure, we can all talk about how "heroic" soldiers are - because of our shit values developed from who knows what ages. I'd say that a businessman making a hard decision that WILL affect thousands of people, either working in the company or just people, is as much of a hero. A doctor is a hero. A worker is a hero.
You know nothing about me or anyone else. Actually neutrally look at what war is and what it's effects might be - and how overly beneficial they can be in this case first - but whatever, you won't. Chew on your nationalism and propaganda and live your lie.
Alright that's it. Fuck you, fuck your family and fuck your mom sideways with a rusty knife, you basterd. I've respected opinions like your long enough, as soon as I'm out of high school I'm enlisting. *cough* sociolist pig *cough*
Agreed. /threadMasterCheifn said:yeah. my town. Detroit. /thread.
You mind not starting a flamewar and rather, post a viable argument. All you've been doing is stating things with no evidence or good examples. Here's another argument for ya, if you love the troops so much, why do you want them to be dying in a country we have no place in? It's not helping the people there, it's just destablizing it further. Our troops have become cruel to the citizens of the country aswell. One more thing, do you even see other nation's citizens as human? (No, I do not mean to offend, I'm guessing you will be offended because you've been offended by every other tame argument here.)Smagmuck08 said:Hmm, I was wondering why your against the war.
Who's "They"?strangemoose said:people need to stop protesting the war in Afghanistan because if we dont do anything they are going to end up droping nukes all over the place.
and if you don't agree with me then don't bombard me with hate mail
You just made this entire post irrelevant.VicunaBlue said:I have just learned, thanks to the Fox news
MaskedMori said:You mind not starting a flamewar and rather, post a viable argument. All you've been doing is stating things with no evidence or good examples. Here's another argument for ya, if you love the troops so much, why do you want them to be dying in a country we have no place in? It's not helping the people there, it's just destablizing it further. Our troops have become cruel to the citizens of the country aswell. One more thing, do you even see other nation's citizens as human? (No, I do not mean to offend, I'm guessing you will be offended because you've been offended by every other tame argument here.)Smagmuck08 said:Hmm, I was wondering why your against the war.
Who's "They"?strangemoose said:people need to stop protesting the war in Afghanistan because if we dont do anything they are going to end up droping nukes all over the place.
and if you don't agree with me then don't bombard me with hate mail
As for the thread, cops beating on citizens because they are protesting is completely morally incorrect and goes against their rights. For those of you who say they deserved it, do you think people deserve to be beaten and arrested for not agreeing with you? I'm disgusted that our police force is like this still.