Dog-Fighting Game Pulled from Android Market

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Owyn_Merrilin

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DragonLord Seth said:
Treblaine said:
AC10 said:
This game should be put back on the market.
In Pokemon I can fight all animals I want. In Manhunt you can stalk and violently murder people to death with primitive weapons like palstic bags and shards of glass.

Why does this Dog game matter? You can't use any argument against it you couldn't against any other game. It allows you to simulate doing illegal things? Cruel things? Immoral things? Need I list you the amount of games that allow this?

In New Vegas I could fight Rad Scorpions in a ring; why is this game any different?
Oh you know, dogs are special, you can't hurt them in a game without people makign a load of fuss;


Oh wait. Nope, it's mostly hypocrisy.

The point is people are ultimately indifferent to the appalling murder rates in the United States, after all it's mostly "gang members" (code word for guess what) killing each other. And they don't like "gang members", they can kill each other all they like. But they LIKE dogs, and while they are complacent over the slaughter of people the idea of dogs being hurt is such a shock to them they get all idealistic, that NO DEPICTION of it can be accepted.

So in the unique circumstances of a game where a dog hurts another dog they are reminded of that blood sport those "gang members" practice and get all indignant and start making exceptions to freedom-of-speech that ultimately undermine liberty for ALL games.

I put this in the same category as N'Gai Croal's rant about black zombies in Resident Evil 5, but at least he saw sense in the end.
The difference between this and CoD WaW and BlOps' Dogs killstreak and Hellhounds is that they were trained to attack you. So it could technically be called self defence. Or do you want people to just sit there as a rabid dog comes to bit their cocks off, while they're carrying a gun?
And dogs in a dog fighting ring are trained to attack each other. What's your point?
 

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DragonLord Seth said:
Treblaine said:
AC10 said:
This game should be put back on the market.
In Pokemon I can fight all animals I want. In Manhunt you can stalk and violently murder people to death with primitive weapons like palstic bags and shards of glass.

Why does this Dog game matter? You can't use any argument against it you couldn't against any other game. It allows you to simulate doing illegal things? Cruel things? Immoral things? Need I list you the amount of games that allow this?

In New Vegas I could fight Rad Scorpions in a ring; why is this game any different?
Oh you know, dogs are special, you can't hurt them in a game without people makign a load of fuss;


Oh wait. Nope, it's mostly hypocrisy.

The point is people are ultimately indifferent to the appalling murder rates in the United States, after all it's mostly "gang members" (code word for guess what) killing each other. And they don't like "gang members", they can kill each other all they like. But they LIKE dogs, and while they are complacent over the slaughter of people the idea of dogs being hurt is such a shock to them they get all idealistic, that NO DEPICTION of it can be accepted.

So in the unique circumstances of a game where a dog hurts another dog they are reminded of that blood sport those "gang members" practice and get all indignant and start making exceptions to freedom-of-speech that ultimately undermine liberty for ALL games.

I put this in the same category as N'Gai Croal's rant about black zombies in Resident Evil 5, but at least he saw sense in the end.
The difference between this and CoD WaW and BlOps' Dogs killstreak and Hellhounds is that they were trained to attack you. So it could technically be called self defence. Or do you want people to just sit there as a rabid dog comes to bit their cocks off, while they're carrying a gun?
You know, there's other ways to stop a dog then just shooting it. Just like there's other ways to stop a person. You have a dog jump you, all you have to do is knee it in the chest, and it brings it down right quickly.

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tanis1lionheart said:
So Pokemon is okay but this isn't?

o_O


I am confused.
Pokemon aren't real animals. Dogs are real animals and dog fighting is an actual problem.
BUt these arent real animals, and pokemon teaches more kids this I think this game would. I'm not saying that this is right, but thats a very poor argument that those arent real animals in pokemon. You kill people based on real life persons in CoDs and such, should they also be banned?
 

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Violence toward animals has always been a grey area for me. In one sense, I enjoy killing the shit out of humans in a video game but detest having to do it to animals. I'm not sure what distinction between the hampers me, other than finding animals adorable!
I point to you the dogs in CoD (see video at top of the page) you cannot find those attack dogs "adorable". Or at least no more than the Wermacht soldier also trying to kill you.

Humans should be instantly more appealing by the very fact of having human faces and language.

BTW, would you "enjoy killing the shit out of " this person:



So before you all start putting up pictures of cute puppies and saying "how could you wan widdle diddums hurt" look at this nice looking chap. He's a Nazi. An officer in the German army in World War 2 sworn allegiance to Adolf Hitler, he fights and kills for his cause.

Consider that you enjoy killing people in games because of the way they are depicted, not what they are.

beema said:
I love when people realize something is immoral only after going to jail for it.
That's kinda the point of jail as a punishment.

Do you think people can only truly repent of their own spontaneous compulsion, entirely internally with no outside forces affecting them? Hardship brought upon by your wrong actions are very good at making you realise what is right and wrong.

Actually, what is right and wrong? What is morality?

Dogfighting is wrong because dogs get hurt.

But a video game about dogfighting, no dogs get hurt and likely would never lead to them getting hurt. Is this game being blocked on principal rather than actuality?
 

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Jumwa said:
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Killing people - All right ! Killing Dogs - No way.
Yeah, get back to making games about humans brutally murdering each other like a HEALTHY NORMAL PERSON.

After reading this post and the comments following I feel like I'm in an insane asylum. Where are peoples priorities?
exactly, this reminds me of this comic that was originally rolled out for Duke Nukem:


Pay attention to the last two panels
 

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I do not think it should have been pulled, though it is Googles right to do so I do not want to see a world where one of the largest media distribution platforms in the world self-censors its content. The subject is distasteful, but its a shitty mafia wars clone with a crappy subject thats now going to get far more attention than it deserves. I find it a distasteful game that deserves and M rating and thats as far as I care about it.

Training dogs to fight pokemon style on an android app is as far removed from actual dogfighting as running a mafia is from playing mafia wars.

Its that same freedom of speech problem again, we can censor one thing, then another... etc its an absolute value, your in or your out.
 

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disfunkybob said:
Screw this dogfighting game! Now if you'll excuse me, I have some Pokemon to train.
Touche. Or at least it would be if Pokemon like Angry Birds was a problem in society. Unless you weren't coming out in favour of the dog fighting game in which case I apologise wholeheartedly.
 

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katsumoto03 said:
tanis1lionheart said:
So Pokemon is okay but this isn't?

o_O


I am confused.
Pokemon aren't real animals. Dogs are real animals and dog fighting is an actual problem.
war is a problem too, yet we play games that glorify it.
 

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Spot1990 said:
RabbidKuriboh said:
Spot1990 said:
RabbidKuriboh said:
this shit is worse than rapelay imo
What? How?
one simple reason amimals are 100% innocent and can never be deserving of callous behaviour such as torture in this case, people enacting horrors on each other is fine(for lack of better word) but don't enact it on the only truly innocent creatures of the world
What?! Animals are truly innocent? They kill people. They kill each other. They eat each other. They rape each other.... Are you implying that people deserve to be raped?

oh sweet christ i hope that was sarcasm

just in case it wasn't let me explain, animals are incapable of evil, humans are more than capable, an animal will only commit an act if it is towards either its own survival or towards the good of its pack

an animal will not inflict misery upon another life just for misery's own sake
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
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All Thing Digital was barking up the wrong tree.
The ruling was a bit ruff. They've marked new territory in apps though, and it's setter bad example.
*groan* I want to hit you over the head with something for that.

OT: Although I find it weird that animals apparently get better rights than humans nowadays in that killing your fellow man is a-ok in a simulated world. Killing a dog in a simulated world is wrong.

Please don't misunderstand me, this game is an abomination and deserved to burn in silicon hell forever with all the calculators but if they ban these games then where does it stop? Will they ban fighting games where you beat your fellow man to a pulp? No, of course they won't. Because that's apparently ok compared to this.
 

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RabbidKuriboh said:
Spot1990 said:
RabbidKuriboh said:
this shit is worse than rapelay imo
What? How?
one simple reason amimals are 100% innocent and can never be deserving of callous behaviour such as torture in this case, people enacting horrors on each other is fine(for lack of better word) but don't enact it on the only truly innocent creatures of the world
Bahahahaha!

Spot1990 said:
RabbidKuriboh said:
this shit is worse than rapelay imo
What? How?
He must be joking/trolling. No one can be so stupid as to say dog-baiting is worse than rape because innocents are only hurt in the former.
 

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Agent Larkin said:
No.

Just no.

Yeah free speech is great but that game...

No.
My friend also used to just say "no.". He was also the pisspole of our class and nobody liked him. He also liked anime, which fits perfect with his situation.