Dragon Age: Inquisition Will Launch October 7

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On 10/21 we should have a good idea of what actual players think of it. Some folks just can't resist those preorder bonuses. I love you.
 

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jFr[e said:
ak93]I am trying so hard to come up with a joke about no one expecting a Dragon Age: Inquisition. Sadly, I can't.

OT - Looks interesting. Fro the fragments of story in the trailer, it sounds like it could have good writing at least.
No one expects the Ferelden Inquisition! Fear and surprise, those are our two weapons. Fear and surprise and a fanatical devotion to the Divine. Hm. Amongst our weaponry we have such diverse elements as fear, surprise, a fanatical devotion to the Divine, i'll come in again.

On-Topic: This is looking pretty good. Now if Bioware learns from their previous games this could be pretty awesome. After all ME3 (sans ending) did show a lot of learning happening.
 

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You know I've never played any of the dragon age's but the story and combat here intrigue me. For any of those who've played any of them, what is the combat like? I would hope it's something different than mash all the buttons but not so difficult that it would be hard to get into.
 

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It doesn't really show much gameplay does it?

Character/city designis horrendous though, maps look appealing on the other hand, it's almost as if characters and architecture were done by usual BW team that couldn't capitalize on features given to them by tools at their disposal and maps were created by Dice or somebody else ;)


Saucycarpdog said:
You know I've never played any of the dragon age's but the story and combat here intrigue me. For any of those who've played any of them, what is the combat like? I would hope it's something different than mash all the buttons but not so difficult that it would be hard to get into.
DA combat system is pretty straightforward on PC it's your usual micro management of 4 character party, with tactical pause and skill bar to aid you however it's simple almost primitive compared to NWN2 or Drakensang. DAO was slow-paced and required some strategy to win certain fights but it's very easy to get into. DA2 combat was similar but more flashy and tedious, Orsino fight is the epitome of what is wrong with that system - long fights with bosses that cannot kill you, however you must suffer through them to see all the awesome things developers prepared which end up not being awesome at all. DA3 combat, from what I've gathered, seems to be aiming at something between DAO and Witcher 2, tactical pause and with free camera seems to be retained however you can also easily switch into TPP roll around and just perform some combo attacks with your party members acting as AI controlled supports.
 

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Saucycarpdog said:
You know I've never played any of the dragon age's but the story and combat here intrigue me. For any of those who've played any of them, what is the combat like? I would hope it's something different than mash all the buttons but not so difficult that it would be hard to get into.
Thats kind of tricky because the combat shifted radically between the two games. In Origins it was very much like earlier games of theirs, like Kotor or Neverwinter Nights. You could pause, issue orders to your companions, abilities on a quickbar, etc. Kinda slow and boring at times if you weren't into it, but the story carried the game anyway.
In DA2 the combat was sort of similar, but much more interactive, spells having different effects or areas of effect that you could place, a lot better sound and combat animations that made it feel like there was more action, overlapping abilities with your companions to maximize the effect. The problem was that many of the side quests, and even main story quests, reused locations and battlefields, had very few differing environments, and had an annoying penchant for spawning new waves of enemies out of the ether just when you thought you'd won a fight. The story was also very differant, forgoing the globetrotting save the world epic feel of DA:O in favor of a more intimate story focusing on a smaller cast of characters over the course of 10 years. I liked it a lot, but I can understand people being put off by it.
Long story short, the combat in 2 improved some things but made new problems. I enjoy it more, but I certainly think Origins is the better game in terms of quality.
 

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Saucycarpdog said:
You know I've never played any of the dragon age's but the story and combat here intrigue me. For any of those who've played any of them, what is the combat like? I would hope it's something different than mash all the buttons but not so difficult that it would be hard to get into.
They have changed the combat in both games, in fact Origins had different combat between the PC and console versions. In Origins (for the PC) it was a lot more tactical oriented with the ability to zoom out and make decisions that way. With Dragon Age 2 the tactical camera was gone and combat sped up a great deal, but felt like most of the other over the shoulder games. In both games you could select anyone in party and play and them and switch at anytime.

Now from everything I have been reading and that one video on YouTube that was taken last summer, it looks like they are aiming for a mix of the two, keeping the speed of combat from Dragon Age 2, but adding back in the tactical combat from Dragon Age: Origins.
 

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james.sponge said:
It doesn't really show much gameplay does it?

Character/city designis horrendous though, maps look appealing on the other hand, it's almost as if characters and architecture were done by usual BW team that couldn't capitalize on features given to them by tools at their disposal and maps were created by Dice or somebody else ;)
Seriously? Did you see the character models in Origins? These look incredible by comparison. At least their teeth move when they speak.
 

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swiftax said:
Which annoys me since I'm one of the few that thought DA2's story was so much more interesting. I still like Origins, DA2 reminded me of something Obsidian would write, trying to balance the morality, making everyone guilty of something to incite the mage-templar conflict, sort of like FO:New Vegas, or KotOR 2 (which, again, I hold to be much better than the original, as great as it was).
THis actually strikes me more as trying to do both at once though, and I'm not sure that's wise. Are we supposed to focus on the Mage civil war with both parties pushing their own rhetoric, or is the whole "Demons everywhere destroying the world" plot going to totally overshadow it?
I agree, I preferred the story of Dragon Age 2, I frequently say that the things I liked and disliked about Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 were completely reversed between the two games.
 

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swiftax said:
james.sponge said:
It doesn't really show much gameplay does it?

Character/city designis horrendous though, maps look appealing on the other hand, it's almost as if characters and architecture were done by usual BW team that couldn't capitalize on features given to them by tools at their disposal and maps were created by Dice or somebody else ;)
Seriously? Did you see the character models in Origins? These look incredible by comparison. At least their teeth move when they speak.
I did and I think they looked horrible :) BW was never good at character design - with some ME characters being an exception - and this game just confirms it. And when you compare their designs with games like Bioshock Infinite, The Witcher 2/3, Assassin's Creed, Deus Ex Human Revolution or Dishonored it's very hard to be impressed by what they presented so far.
 

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Mcoffey said:
In Mass Effect 1, they made it really clear that Cerberus are these irredeemable bastards. Then, everything in Mass Effect 2 was telling you that was just a few rogue cells and that they're really not so bad. Only a few people like Anderson and Ash/Kaiden had anything bad to say about them, if I remember correctly. Then they flip-flopped again and just made them completely evil (And significantly more militarized than before, somehow, but you needed an enemy that would shoot back, so I'm willing to over look that one). In the long run it works, but they presentation from a game-to-game basis always felt really inconsistent to me. I question how their role in 3 would have been different if people had warmed up to them more, and bought into the percieved Good Intentions.
Now...don't take this the wrong way and assume that I'm OK with the decisions that Bioware made in ME3, but here i have to disagree.

The story arc in ME3 for Cerberus was that the leadership became indoctrinated and turned around and executed it on all their people. If you read the available notes, emails, etc in the game you see the pro-human Cerberus employee's not realize what was going on until it was too late. The Illusive Man himself doesn't even turn out to be evil, he's sacrificing everything to attempt to save humans and doesn't realize how far he's fallen. And even at the very end, he thinks he's able to control them without understanding that they've been pulling his strings.

The arc for Cerberus in ME3 completely lines up with ME1 and M2 and (unlike the ending of the game) is done very well IMHO.

On topic...I want to get excited about this game, but Bioware has burned me twice in recent memory, so I'm going to wait for reviews. I hope it turns out well.
 

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Damn I'm so excited for this. Might be the first time in a long time I actually pre-order the special collectors edition of a game.
 

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Oh, how i laughed at it being called "gameplay trailer". Nice try bioware, but how about an actual gameplay trailer next, ok?
anyways, i'm getting hyped for this game with what i've seen so far, and we finally get a reveal of all the companions and eventual waifus/husbandos.

Wait, is that Cullen on the far left?
*goes to investigate*

EDIT: OH HELL YES IT IS. Yay~ my favorite crazy turned awesome templar is returning and is a potential love interest
 

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Called it. The Fade is broken, and demons are coming through. So glad this is the storyline they went through.

Got to love how, even as the world is falling apart, humans still find time to kill each other in wars instead of trying to work together.

Please, please, please tell me that the female voice actress is better than the male one. He sounded too generic. Or we can pick different voices for me. Or different styles of talking, like Dragon Age II.

So. Super. EXCITED!
 

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The Deluxe Edition has some pretty swish extras (imo at least). I kind of want the Halla mount...
My problem is that you can only get the PC Deluxe Edition as a download from Origin; there's no physical disc version.
At least not in the UK (not sure about elsewhere). Game have got the exlusive rights to the Deluxe Edition (again :|) and the only PC version they have is the normal one. However, you can get physical versions of the console Deluxes :/

All my saves are for the PC and there's also the wonders of modding to consider...
Alas, it appears that the Deluxe Edition and I were not meant to be :'(
 

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Okay.
At least it is being released this year.

Although I do have some things to talk about.
- This trailer did not view much about gameplay, so that doesn't look good in my mind.
- It looks ten times better then the past two games combined! :D
- The story, it seems a whole like "The Chosen One" on a bigger scale, while I don't mind the whole Chosen One thing, I just hope it doesn't go to crap like Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3. Also some connection from Dragon Age: Origins and 2 would be great, although I'm playing it on my PS4, so hopefully I can choose what happened before.
- The Characters ... we seem to have a lot of them, I think I saw Leliana too, hopefully the Champion and Hawke will be there too.

Still, I am excited for this and like many people, I am pleading with God to not let them screw this up!
But I'm very sceptical due to the recent traffic that EA and Bioware have gained lately

Please be good, please be good!
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I'll pre-order it, but I'll be annoyed if it turns to be shit. D:
Is only survivor really the same as chosen one? I mean they can be sure, "your were the only one to survive because you are the chosen one." It also could just be though your one lucky bastard that found the safe spot and got the secrete powers form it, or you survived because you were the best of the others some how.
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
Called it. The Fade is broken, and demons are coming through. So glad this is the storyline they went through.

Got to love how, even as the world is falling apart, humans still find time to kill each other in wars instead of trying to work together.

Please, please, please tell me that the female voice actress is better than the male one. He sounded too generic. Or we can pick different voices for me. Or different styles of talking, like Dragon Age II.

So. Super. EXCITED!
Actually, as I recall David Gaider said there would be at least 4 possible voices, 2 male and 2 female. I'm not sure if thats a choice or determined by race, and I can't find the link right now, but that might work if its true.
 

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I'm looking forward to this as the only person on the internet who liked DA2 (not as much as DA1) but this one dose look good. not much on preorder bonuses but will most likely pre-order it.
 

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Already pre-ordered.

Dragon Age is one series that has done me no wrong. Loved both DA1 & DA2 and even put in a lot of hours on the facebook game until the fail 'pay to have fun' system of those games wore me down, lol.

I'll admit that I'm less hyped about this installment than any prior version of the game. All the talk of opening up the world is not the direction I want this series to go. Hopefully the stories and characters remain focused with combat as fun as it was in DA2. *crosses fingers*