Duke Nukem is fun and funny, shame on Escapist

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Inco

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Vandenberg1 said:
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He gets like 6 lines in the whole series.

*clears throat*

"Cortana upload it"
"Cortana where do I throw this gernade thingy?"
"Seargent nooo!!!"
"The flood...*
"I'll do it"

Sarge saved Halo for me. Same guy from Aliens I'm sure of it. Now to be fair Halo fans love him so much it be hard to give personality or a face that won't dissapoint.. Like Samus.
...What?
I swear your paraphrasing is a bit off. Which is my term for saying that it's a bit more than 'a bit'.

I find it funny (in an ironic way) that you say "Shame on The escapist" for either not liking or shooting down the game, and then shoot down other games in your opening post. People have opinions, and you are entitled to yours, but that does not mean we have to agree on it.
 

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I'm just going to reinstall Duke Nukem 3D: Atomic Edition with the High Definition Pack and play through that.

Then, maybe, I'll pick up DNF once I find it on sale somewhere. I usually disapprove of this sort of attitude, but after talking to my brother about his experiences with the game it's clear that 3D Realms were just pissing around for over a decade (redoing the same short game over and over to add new tech and new ideas), and Gearbox just did the bare minimum work required to get a functional game together for sale.

Gearbox are not bad developers, but it seems they had too much respect for the work of their predecessors, which resulted in a game just as mediocre and thematically confused as if 3D Realms had been allowed to finish it.
 

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Inco said:
Vandenberg1 said:
-Irrelevent parts snipped-
He gets like 6 lines in the whole series.

*clears throat*

"Cortana upload it"
"Cortana where do I throw this gernade thingy?"
"Seargent nooo!!!"
"The flood...*
"I'll do it"

Sarge saved Halo for me. Same guy from Aliens I'm sure of it. Now to be fair Halo fans love him so much it be hard to give personality or a face that won't dissapoint.. Like Samus.
...What?
I swear your paraphrasing is a bit off. Which is my term for saying that it's a bit more than 'a bit'.

I find it funny (in an ironic way) that you say "Shame on The escapist" for either not liking or shooting down the game, and then shoot down other games in your opening post. People have opinions, and you are entitled to yours, but that does not mean we have to agree on it.
its my damn laptop, it does weird things... I liked Halo, just saying master chief wasn't much of a character.. at least with freeman every other character in Halflife was soooo good it didnt matter that he didnt do or say anything himself.
 

Daverson

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Welp, I enjoyed DNF, if no one else did, then I can't say I'll be too beat up over it.

That said, it seems to me a lot of the people who are saying "OMG! DUKE SUX GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY!" are the same people who were saying "OMG! DUKE WIL SUK!". Just an observation here, but, you could have just, you know, not bought it?
 

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Vandenberg1 said:
Basically the shooting is just like Halo
im gonna have to disagree with you there... i bought Duke Nukem Forever, and it is fun, but the shooting gameplay is sub-par. the gunplay in Halo is very good, in fact, its some of the best shooting gameplay out there, along with Call of Duty, Battlefield, and a select few others.

DNF is clunky, but i still like it.
 

Dr. HeatSync

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Yeah, attack the escapist review, because it doesn't share your opinion of the game, as do quite a lot of the population.

Classic shooting? Ok, heres what I've got from the demo (you know, what's supposed to sell me the game, not make me cancel my pre-order)

*It takes far too many mechanics from other games but fails to make them it's own i.e. Ego Meter is refilled by running away? There were so many things they could've done with this, like say charging into enemies (without getting hit) would provide the macho fix he needs to pwn some pigcop.

*The new mechanics don't blend well with the old. i.e. 2 weapon slots, carrying a shrink ray. The shrink ray only kills when you stomp the enemy. Running to stomp them likely means getting killed. Only one other weapon slot for use where the shrink is fallible, making the risk not worth it's reward.

*The Duke is a pussy; he pants and sputters after the (ludicrously short) sprint meter depletes. He can't jump very far or run very fast, he needs to get behind cover a lot. All of these features belong in COD and Battlefield, not a game where the protagonist is touted as a badass but doesn't actually deliver. I was hoping for something bursting with adrenaline living by running and gunning, not a COD clone.

Classic shooting meant running really fast, carrying more weapons than is possible, fighting enemies that did a little more than shoot you back and had some fairly out of place platforming. One thing it did make you feel however was like a badass. DNF fails to achieve this for the reasons above.

Finally the overall impression left from very controversial footage of the game. I'm a fan of dark and sadistic humour, but even I find the duke isn't exactly anywhere near likable when he makes a "you're fucked" joke (a fairly uncreative one) in a situation where women are dying whilst being inseminated by alien penises. Its not like this kind of humour is impossible to achieve but if done wrong the result is a very foul taste. DNF certainly didn't win in this respect.

There, now you can see why someone doesn't have to like the game. You can like the game, but don't challenge a reviewer's opinion purely on the fact that it's not the same as yours. Given that you can tell the mechanics were crap from the demo alone, playing the whole game is unnecessary as we have found that the game doesn't transform into a better Bulletstorm halfway through.
 

Dr. Win

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Yes, shame on us for having a different opinion to you. We are obviously all toss-pots who don't know the slightest thing about our own interests. Please, show us the way sensei.
 

Ardenon

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Fun and funny are subjective words, basically to allot of people you are either just saying your opinion or lying
 

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I'm having the time of my life with this game atm, really really really fun. Fast pace, awesome character, interactivity is amazing. It's just down right fun fun fun fuuuun. Also, it feels like half the haters did not even play the game, just hate to hate.
 

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if flinging poo floats your boat, then go ahead, laugh it up! Your entitled to your opinion, as is everone else on here, as are all the reviewers around the world, and guess what Russ Pitts isn't the only one to say it's bad... they all have.
 

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I've seen this a lot lately on other websites as well. If you like it then you like it. The Escapist wasn't saying that you weren't going to like it or that you wouldn't going to find it humorous, they just didn't feel the same way about it that you did. It's alright to have an opinion, just don't attack people for having a different one than you.
 

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Vandenberg1 said:
Ok, before I HEAR A MILLION... It suck please play through it first. (small duke in car thingy was hard lame at first but still funny) If you never played the old games I can see why you wouldn't like it but I am digging it alot. Kinda bland at first, but environment changes from casinos, to Ocean bases to alien hives...Just good classic shooting. Not worth hype and the price tag but I'm glad I bought it, hell Its just funny as hell. Its almost REFRSSHING to have Duke back as a character after playing soooo many failed attempts at makingbland shooters dramatic *points to Gears of War!* Basically the shooting is just like Halo, but I'd argue Duke is a better character then Chief by far.

I realllyyyy hope they do another Duke game, one that didn't have to be just a vamped up 1998 shooter with updated graphics, but I like what it is... for what it tried to do. I mean Gearbox said WE ARE JUST FINISHING WHAT TOOK 12 YEARS to do. It has old style shooting which is alot of dumb enemies charging at you, but after the initial problems I find alot to enjoy here.
I also am quite enjoying myself, maybe because im not an entitled pretentious little shit like many are, and hit the nail right on the head with my own expectations. I am more than convinced that the majority of haters probably never played Duke Nukem 3d and expected some Gears of Wank clone with witty one liners. This game was never meant to be benchmark setting, or reinvent shooters, it was meant to have fun. And for me it has paid off. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.
 

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Ok, before I HEAR A MILLION... It suck please play through it first. (small duke in car thingy was hard lame at first but still funny) If you never played the old games I can see why you wouldn't like it but I am digging it alot. Kinda bland at first, but environment changes from casinos, to Ocean bases to alien hives...Just good classic shooting. Not worth hype and the price tag but I'm glad I bought it, hell Its just funny as hell. Its almost REFRSSHING to have Duke back as a character after playing soooo many failed attempts at makingbland shooters dramatic *points to Gears of War!* Basically the shooting is just like Halo, but I'd argue Duke is a better character then Chief by far.

I realllyyyy hope they do another Duke game, one that didn't have to be just a vamped up 1998 shooter with updated graphics, but I like what it is... for what it tried to do. I mean Gearbox said WE ARE JUST FINISHING WHAT TOOK 12 YEARS to do. It has old style shooting which is alot of dumb enemies charging at you, but after the initial problems I find alot to enjoy here.
The only reason you stated that you liked the game was because of the variation in scenery.. This is the point where i ask you to seriously re-evaluate your position as a gamer
 

Wintermoot

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it looks funny which is a breath of fresh air in a genre dominated by being gritty and dark.
I think I,ll get it (the Balls of Steel edition)
 

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no it wasn't good. why?
bad blend of old and new, calling the health meter ego is fine and all but that should recharge by pissing on enemies corpses or something.
also: only two guns.
 

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Well I wouldn't have exactly said 'shame on Escapist' but good on you for sharing your love! It's time for people to realize that there is no such thing as a 'bad game.'
Dfskelleton said:
Seeing as you love Doom, that's further reinforcing don't knock it 'till you try it.
 

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Rape.

Because rape is always funny...
One level in particular takes place in an alien nest where Earth's women are being inseminated by giant penises. The women writhe and moan in a fairly humiliating fashion, and they regularly sob with no small amount of implied misery. In essence, the women look like they're getting raped. In fact, they are. That's the big joke of the level. The aliens are raping the women to create babies. Now, I'm a fan of offensive humor, but the "joke" in this level is so morbidly presented, so dark and downright unsettling, that I simply do not know if Gearbox intends for us to laugh or to throw up. I certainly found I was in danger of doing the latter over the former.

By the time Duke Nukem finally makes a "You're fucked," joke, which he makes in front of two girls who are about to die in the process of getting sexually assaulted, Duke does not come across as cool, witty or likable in the least. He comes across as a vile, callous, thoroughly detestable psychopath.
Destructiod Review
That alone is reason enough to despise this game. Yes, even without playing it.
I also hear the gameplay isn't any good, so there's that.
 

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if i was much younger i would have found it funny (same with bullet storm) and i thought the gameplay was just boring as hell
Bulletstorm on the other hand had very fun gameplay and i did find same of the kill points to be pretty funny as well as occasional bits of humour in the dialogue (very occasionally) but that game was fun and kinda old school and good to play and didnt take 12 years to come out