Dungeons & Dragons Banned in Prison

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chozo_hybrid

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Amnestic said:
chozo_hybrid said:
I thought prison was a punishment, I don't think they should be playing anything if they're in there.
You really don't want a bored prison populace.
REALLY bad idea. Especially if you're trying to cut down on Prison Officer overtime.
I know, I know, it just makes me mad knowing I work my ass off for things, but they get given food, shelter and games etc as well.
 
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chozo_hybrid said:
I know, I know, it just makes me mad knowing I work my ass off for things, but they get given food, shelter and games etc as well.
Doesn't exactly float my boat either, but you're stripping them of their basic dignity. What would you do instead?

Tanto-chan said:
WOW this may just be the stupidest thing I've ever heard the government do.
You really have to read more news ;)
 

chozo_hybrid

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
chozo_hybrid said:
I know, I know, it just makes me mad knowing I work my ass off for things, but they get given food, shelter and games etc as well.
Doesn't exactly float my boat either, but you're stripping them of their basic dignity. What would you do instead?
They chose that when they committed their crimes. Give them a field to run around in and that's it, I wouldn't supply anything for them to use to have fun aside from gods green earth.
 

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tomtom94 said:
Sorry to say, but I think I can see where Chicago are coming from on this.

Okay so some of the reasons are poor and misinformed, but there are presumably other reasons which aren't.

My personal view is that prisoners should not be allowed to have fun, but apparently that's "fascist".
The point of prison is to help them, not to render prisoners insane. If a prisoner is already mentally unstable, then he's most likely not going to be any more affected by having fun or not. To be honest I agree with you to a degree that prison is definitely no vacation, but you can't deprive the prisoners of everything, that would be basically dehumanizing them completely which I don't see as a solution to the problem.
 

SimuLord

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tomtom94 said:
Sorry to say, but I think I can see where Chicago are coming from on this.

Okay so some of the reasons are poor and misinformed, but there are presumably other reasons which aren't.

My personal view is that prisoners should not be allowed to have fun, but apparently that's "fascist".
I tend to favor the bread, water, and breaking rocks approach to prison---and "cut his fucking head off---both of them" for child molesters.
 
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chozo_hybrid said:
They chose that when they committed their crimes.
Assuming they're guilty, of course.
Give them a field to run around in and that's it, I wouldn't supply anything for them to use to have fun aside from gods green earth.
Well, given you'd have to go against Amnesty, and then you've got the hayfever/agoraphobics etc., there's just a whole new bunch of problems. Least of which is transport and lack of escape.

Equally, could you be a prison guard? Knowing you have to keep these guys from turning on you the second your back is turned, for a paypacket that's less than these guys could get in a day outside?

Even if you're faced with a hardened, unrepentant, murderer who frankly deserves to be in the ground, how do you stop him from gutting you when he literally has nothing left to lose?

Now, let's say that he's got a story in his head - something that takes him away from the grind of life - and actually allows him to see his own actions, perhaps even feel remorse? Is it fitting to take that away from him?

SimuLord said:
I tend to favor the bread, water, and breaking rocks approach to prison---and "cut his fucking head off---both of them" for child molesters.
Molesters are a special case. I just say leave them in the prison courtyard while the guards turn their backs for a moment.
Then bring the bodybags when the screaming stops.
 

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Of course it creates hostility! Look at the article picture, not a d4, d6, d8, d10, or d12 in sight! The roll modifications would be a nightmare, I would be pissed too...
 

AgDr_ODST

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When I read the title I laughed my ass off. As I imagined grown men on death row huddled around a table talking about elves and slaying dragons
 

mptothedc

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They allow band practicing and other recreational activities in some prisons yet they ban dungeons and dragons? That seems absurd... but hey if you're serving life then who gives a shit. Just find a way to play it anyway.
 

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He kind of killed another man, so does he really deserve that much cinsideration? I mean maybe he had a "good reason" for murder, but still I don't think he necessarily deserves D&D.
 

Akkiko

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Today DnD, tomorrow... Monopoly.

They've got their eyes set on you Mr. Banker.
 

NeutralDrow

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Wait. I coulda sworn the whole point of the game was to infuriate and annoy the Dungeon Master, in an attempt to drive him towards a mental breakdown. Have I been playing it wrong all these years?
 

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The reasons may be wrong, but who really gives a shit?

If they wanted to play D&D, they shouldn't have done whatever it was that landed them behind bars. Ya know, bad things, like murder.

/obligatory-hardass-viewpoint.
 

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I thought they would ban the game because you can cram the dice up your nose.

But seriously the prison's gonna have a load of law suits from prisoners who human rights have been roundly violated.
 

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I realy dont care for prisoners, i know some of them can genuinly become reformed an such, but for many who crime is a way of life, its disgusting that they should still have human rights, it should be if you have broken someone else human rights then yours sshould be stripped away from you. oh well, not like that will ever happen.

wish i could say i was shocked about that jack chick site, started looking at it and thought "oh no, this is lke the earth is flat site" sumtimes its just far to rediculous, i like how in wikipedia it says their is a claim that he is the most published comic book author in the world, strange how im abit of a geek and never once seen any of his stuff :p oh well
 

Scrythe

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But everyone knows that D&D teaches you real spells! Jack Chick said so!

In fact, just last week I used my magic missile to assassinate the Prime Minister of Malaysia!
 

Alex_P

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Greg Tito said:
Prison officials testified in court that D&D could "foster an inmate's obsession with escaping from the real-life correctional environment, fostering hostility, violence and escape behavior."
Tolkien once said that the only people who fear escapism are jailers.

Years later, Moorcock quipped that jailors love escapism -- the thing they fear is escape.

-- Alex
 

Mcupobob

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"Kevin T. Singer, serving a life term for killing his sister's boyfriend"

"foster an inmate's obsession with escaping from the real-life correctional environment.

So he is seving a life term and they say he can't play D&D because he will not relize he is being changed in to a person fit for society? He is serving a life term, he can't go back in to society, and of corse he wants to escape prison life it sucks there.