Ellen Page Nudity in Beyond: Two Souls Triggers Aggressive Sony Response

[Sectan]

Seriously? They put her head on a nude character model that was er..."Anatomically Correct" for a shower scene that didn't show any jiggly bits? WHY?! Why not make it like a doll if those "parts" weren't needed for the game? It takes someone going full retard to put that into a game's files and not expect someone to find it.

 

[PunkRex]

Was Beyond Two Souls any good? If so she could just write it off as art-sie nudity, that would proberly boost her career... or maybe people will just not give a shit as you can find any celebrity's face stapled onto a 3D model these days.

 

[Doclector]

While I admit it took a lotta courage to actually put a fully-nude character model in a AAA game and I will give them credit for covering it up and not making a big deal of it... yeah, unless Ellen Page consented to being rendered au naturel and inevitably being exposed when people started looking in the files, I think Page and Cage should sit down and have a talk.

Also... how old is Ellen's character in that game? Just looking at that mugshot, she looks like a teenager.

I have no idea. Then again, I just googled and Ellen Page is in fact twenty six years old, and she still looks like a teenager.

No, I didn't google the nude shots, goddammit.

In any case, if Ellen page consented to being depicted naked, whether it is her body or not, then it's kinda a non issue. Sure, I don't condone useless nudity scenes (I haven't played the game, so I've no idea what the context is) but if the actress gave permission, this is more of something to debate in relation to the game itself and its quality rather than any reason for moral outrage.

But the fact that sony called it "damaging" makes me suspect that such permission wasn't given. And that's bad. Very bad.

 

[an annoyed writer]

What did she expect? Rule 34 is a thing for a reason, and anyone who has been on the internet long enough should know that. Yeah it's pretty fucked up, but it's the run of the mill kind of fucked up that the internet runs on. Just be glad it isn't anything more than the tame deal that they have here. I gotta say though, it's interesting to hear that more devs are doing anatomically correct models in big AAA games, even if those assets aren't going to be used for anything more than eye candy and physics simulation. You can't stick with Barbies and GI Joes forever if you want to shoot for perfect realism, though I bet they're going to be hiring a lot more perverts if that is the case.

 

[an annoyed writer]

Why would you render her bits if you aren't going to show them? Wouldn't it have been much easier to make her look like a Barbie doll?

Because polygons is emotions, and jiggly bits is polygons.

Seriously though? I dunno. Probably for the sake of "realism", though in a tasteless manner. Character modeling is getting to be a pretty intensive field these days, and some people I've run into do it just for the sake of doing it, even if they're not doing that shit for a thing focused on the jiggly bits. Some say it helps with "cloth physics simulation" or some BS.

 

[Pyrian]

Why would you render her bits if you aren't going to show them?

Probably stock model. Not really an excuse - this stuff always happens.

 

[Karadalis]

Ellen Page's reputation is utterly ruined, she'll have to pick work in a strip club... or worse. /sarcasm

Seriously though I've been on the internet long enough to know that there are nude or pornographic pictures of a great deal of celebrities, and judging by what people have described of the picture it's not a big deal. It's not pornographic and distasteful, it's just her character taking a shower.

Ah.. but the thing is.

These pictures where not made by big reputable companies like sony.

Someone in the Dev team actually took his time to animate a full nude body with all naughty bits included and put it into the game.

What happened here is more akin to making a movie with a rather tame scene where the actor is shown nude behind not see through glass.

And in the directors cut suddenly the glass is see through and you can see every little juicy detal.. without anyone asking the actor if he was okay with that.

 

[hoov]

I remember hearing they they did this with Madison in Heavy Rain they may have done it with Ethan as well. Of course when you're doing it with a character modeled on a real actress it becomes fucking creepy. I wonder if David Cage keeps the nude renders in his home.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Why do people care about a few virtual nudes? Internet is probably full of fake photoshoped images of Ellen Page having kinky sex with god knows who and what.

EDIT: Yep, it's all there.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

What did she expect? Rule 34 is a thing for a reason, and anyone who has been on the internet long enough should know that. Yeah it's pretty fucked up, but it's the run of the mill kind of fucked up that the internet runs on. Just be glad it isn't anything more than the tame deal that they have here. I gotta say though, it's interesting to hear that more devs are doing anatomically correct models in big AAA games, even if those assets aren't going to be used for anything more than eye candy and physics simulation. You can't stick with Barbies and GI Joes forever if you want to shoot for perfect realism, though I bet they're going to be hiring a lot more perverts if that is the case.

The difference here is that it wasn't just the fans creating a nude model, or artwork. That is expected and most likely already existed (I am not venturing to find out). The difference here is that these models were in the GAME. Someone at Like take, the Sims for example. You take away the pixelation around the Sim's naughty bits, and you will find they don't have naughty bits.

Someone at Quantic Dreams created a nude model of Ellen Page, they were PAID by the company to spend time creating this model. Someone most likely approved these files to be put in the game for a shower scene that didn't actually include Ellen Page's naughty bits. They didn't need to make anything extra on her model for that scene, since (by the sound of it) those parts were intentionally left out of the shot.

 

[04whim]

I felt a microscopic amount of sympathy for her at first. Then I was reminded that she got mad at Naughty Dog for making a character that looked a little bit like her and yeah, I suddenly don't care.

 

[Neta]

Who is Ellen Page and why should I care if her face has been photoshopped onto some CGI body?

Maybe they can patch the nude model to give her horrific scars over all the bits of her body that we shouldn't be seeing. Maybe then she'll be happy?

 

[Lono Shrugged]

In fairness, it would be mighty creepy to find out that a bunch of people who you did some mo cap acting for rendered your nude body to an insane detail. I mean breasts are one thing. Full body nudity without consent is pretty unprofessional at the very least.

 

[karloss01]

Who is Ellen Page and why should I care if her face has been photoshopped onto some CGI body?

Maybe they can patch the nude model to give her horrific scars over all the bits of her body that we shouldn't be seeing. Maybe then she'll be happy?

not photoshopped, she Mo-capped for the main female lead in Beyond: Two Souls.

I've seen the shots and I'm not surprised about it, GTA has exposed breasts and penises in both GTAIV and V. this is only a problem because Its Ellen Page's body that they captured and then put a nude texture on (its everything but her groin by the way, they didn't go full perv on it. that would surprise me).

 

[medv4380]

If it was Mocaped then it might be a bit more then just her head being spliced onto a CGI body.

 

[an annoyed writer]

The difference here is that it wasn't just the fans creating a nude model, or artwork. That is expected and most likely already existed (I am not venturing to find out). The difference here is that these models were in the GAME. Someone at Like take, the Sims for example. You take away the pixelation around the Sim's naughty bits, and you will find they don't have naughty bits.

Someone at Quantic Dreams created a nude model of Ellen Page, they were PAID by the company to spend time creating this model. Someone most likely approved these files to be put in the game for a shower scene that didn't actually include Ellen Page's naughty bits. They didn't need to make anything extra on her model for that scene, since (by the sound of it) those parts were intentionally left out of the shot.

*shrugs

Fair point, though honestly I'm still not surprised. Quantic Dream already had a history of making fully rendered anatomically correct models. I wouldn't be surprised if the stock models that they start from all had those bits, since it is a French Studio and nudity in media is less stigmatized over there.

 

[RikuoAmero]

Wait...a female character in a game that is taking a shower is NUDE and has TITS? STOP THE FECKING PRESSES! ALERT THE MEDIA! SHELTER YOUR CHILDREN! OH THE HUMANITY!!