Enough with the constant praise of Half Life 2

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daveman247

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Can't really speak on the subject of HL1 vs HL2.

Not really no. Regen health would solve the problem I found with extended battles where slowly but sure the difficulty skyrockets as you are worn down and health packs become less available and you hover at or below 50%. The example I had was in HL2:esp 2 where there is an open field battle against enemies that don't passively drop ammo. As I slowly lost ammo caches and health I ended up stuck at a wave were I could not progress. I turned down the difficulty and still couldn't prevail. Ultimately I would of had to restart the entire event and protect more caches earlier on. By the time this came apparent couldn't be bothered.

This scenario is pretty much the entire point of regen health and because regenning hp will only take effect while not being hit it doesn't really effect how tense a fight is instead only stops the "tense due to fear of fustration" moments that appear when your low.[/quote]


I'm not even sure how you managed to run out of supplies. That part of the game had so many healthpacks and ammo.... You basically failed the mission really. You can't really say the game is bad just because you are not very good at it. And wouldnt running out of ammo pretty much mean failure in any shooter? Regardless of health :) That part is near the end of the game i think, so you should have ammo coming out of your ears!
 

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And wouldnt running out of ammo pretty much mean failure in any shooter? Regardless of health :)
Not in Halo. You can punch your way through most things if your good enough.
 

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AC10 said:
Constant praise? This exact thread is made on here at least once every 48 hours. If anything there is just constant complaining that it gets constant praise.

The "real answer" is that different people like different things. Not liking HL2 isn't some abomination and liking it is not strange.
well said

i respect u good sir :D
 

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Skin said:
endtherapture said:
The fact that Half Life 2 is still being compared to modern shooters despite the fact it is 8 years old shows how good it is as a game.
Even though it's detractors are actively saying it does not compare to modern day shooters, and was not even that great for its time...

It is only the fans who have the gall to compare it to modern shooters.
I played HL2 in late 2010 after experiences with Crysis and I found it a really fun game. It wasn't as good as Crysis but sure it was fun. It's definitely better than CoD.
 

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DioWallachia said:
ZeroMachine said:
It isn't innovative. Today. At all. If it came out today, it would be considered odd and would probably be laughed away.

It was innovative nearly a decade ago when it was first released for the following:

A seamless FPS with a story told through gameplay instead of cutscenes. Relatively well written characters and overall great voice acting also helped.

An at-the-time phenomenal physics and lighting engine that is only getting old within the past couple of years (though if you put the right people to it it can still make games that reach today's standards). Their facial animations are also fantastic even by most of today's standards (just compare HL2 with Kingdom's of Amalur. Holy fuck.)

Somewhat involved with the previous point, the Gravity Gun. From a technical standpoint, it was very innovative.

And that's it. And I'm sure people have stated this to you.

The game is good. For it's time. I enjoy it for nostalgia. Fully admit it. But, I know a lot of people that went through it recently and still loved it.

Try it for yourself. Don't listen to the exorbitant hype. Don't listen to people who compare it to games today to say it's shit.

Just fucking play it and decide for yourself instead of coming here and bitching about how people don't shut up about it (even though I only ever see people talk about it on here when people make threads asking why it's so popular, which I see more of on here than all of the Skyrim and MLP threads... COMBINED. Way to add to that number). If you really let a silly thing like other people praising something push you away from a game, then you need to really rethink how you judge things, because that's just ridiculous.
But wait, i thought it was HL1 the innovative one and not HL2, you know, the one that keep getting the praises rather than the first one?

It may not help that having played Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2; A game that was made before HL2 (you know, the game that EVERYONE keeps mentioning rather than HL1 that was before Soul Reaver 2) may have made a big influence on me. Since SR2 has Shakespearean voice actors and the graphics were just good enough to see every detail in the body language to make them fell alive. It isnt, however, a FPS so i guess i have to judge it with another similar FPS like Requiem The Avenging Angel from the year 1999. Tons of weapons and powers of all flavors and also no cutscene interruption, all was during gameplay but had the fatal flaw of being bugged up the ass on the very first minutes of the game. Charlie Brooker gave a good review of it and for some bloody reason it didnt destroy it appart after finishing with it. Besides, Cyclone Studios closed after making this game and 3DO, the publisher, followed.

That is the closest FPS i played to compare. How about any suggestions FPS around 1999 and the year of HL2 to have a comparation??
I gave you precise reasons as to why Half Life 2 was so praised, and you ignored them and argued more. Go fucking figure. Once again this thread is either pointless or troll bait. I'm not even one of these "blind fanboys" you claim exist.

I'm done with this thread. Everyone should be. And they should be a bannable offense at this point.
 

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I'm sorry, but I just can't take this thread seriously. I liked it's story and gameplay
Cant take seriously someone that doesnt read the post and dismisses a QUESTION as an opinion of a game that i havent played yet because of people like you

endtherapture said:
The fact that Half Life 2 is still being compared to modern shooters despite the fact it is 8 years old shows how good it is as a game.
I will get to you later, because replying for everyone is more easy and guaranteed to have an response because people NEVER read comments after the first 2 pages if i dont quote them. I have to work very hard to make my point and making a wall of text for everyone just to be dismised because Half Life Awesomeness is apparently absolute and immune to all criticism. BRB

Reveras said:
I honestly just think that people who make these kinds of threads are stupid. "Why do you like this when I hate it? Why do you hate this when I like it?" It takes a very narrow-minded person to ask such questions and ignore the fact that people just like different things. (Also for each praise HL 2 gets, around 10 of these "tell me why I'm stupid" threads pops up.)
Yeah, stupid OP. How dare he to ASK for opinion for a game that he HASNT played and therefore cant hate but CAN hate people that make stupid comments without any actual fact that may encourage him to buy the game?? If only he made an opinion on the game i could copy pasta this response anyway because i am a hypocrite. YAY!!

matrix3509 said:
DioWallachia said:
Anyway, the point of all this is to know why HL2 is being praised as the better game when HL1 is the same but with less than stellar graphics and should get the praise instead for setting the stardart
Are you being intentionally dense? The original Half-Life DID get praise. It got a veritable SHIT-LOAD of praise. If you want to know why go look up reviews.

Half-Life 2 gets praise over the original because it does everything an ideal sequel should do: That is to say it improved upon the original game in every conceivable way.

2004 was not that long ago, is your memory so short that you can't think back to how games were then? Why the hell are you so needy that you need some one else to give you a reason to like or dislike something. The game is like $9 on Steam. Get it and make up your own damn mind.
$9 for you. But to x4 to x5 the price in my country. I already made a list of games that i was playing around that era and wasnt interested in FPS anymore and that was before even knowing that the COD style of shooters even existed. Anyway, quoting you for later.

Zac Smith said:
Because people never ever ever go on about how amazing FF7 is, or how ocarina of time is the best game ever. Your opinion isn't the be all and end all. I accept that even though I dislike the above mentioned games, doesn't mean people aren't aloud to praise them.

If you don't like something, don't ***** about it, just don't play it, avoid topics about it, there are plenty of others that are about other things
totally heterosexual said:
Im going to stop praising half life 2 (a game i very much like) when everyone else stops praising every game that i dont like.

That includes op by the way. You are never again allowed to say anything bad about a game i dont like.

Stop posting btw
Casual Shinji said:
"Congratulations!!!

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Go the www.brokenrecord.com for your complimentary badge!"

[sub]Seriously, the Escapist should really consider making a badge for this.[/sub]
Dr.Panties said:
Yeah, and how about that "The Beatles" band, eh? What's the fucking deal with that?

And "Led Zeppelin"?

Pfft, bunch of fanboys. None of them can validate or rationalise the constant praise and reverence with which these mediocre, outdated bands are treated.

Therefore, those bands are shit. And I'm right. Because no-one can provide a successful counter-argument to my own opinion.

I'm right. Me. Me, me, me, me, me.

I'm right, and everyone else that disagrees is wrong. Because they can't provide an airtight argument to support their subjective, positive opinions of something that I dislike, or don't understand, or have never even experienced.

I'm right. I'm always right. Meme.
Other 4 people join the club of "I didnt read the OP but i did read the title and i must assume he hates the game that he say that he DIDNT play because of the mongoloids that keep bashing you over the head for thinking that over-hyping something isnt a good idea and cant make more damage that you will like to admit"

Here is your membership price:

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nikki191 said:
i played half life back when it was first released. good solid old school shooter. i played half life 2 about 3 weeks ago for the first time. its an old school game and its frankly the pinacle of the old school shooters and with an inovative weapon like the gravity gun great fun.

you dont like it.. fine. telling others to stop praising it because they like it? um just ignore it
Didnt play it, cant unlike it. Therefore i cant tell someone to stop liking it.

And now the last quote so i can start (good lord i havent even started yet?)

ZeroMachine said:
I gave you precise reasons as to why Half Life 2 was so praised, and you ignored them and argued more. Go fucking figure. Once again this thread is either pointless or troll bait. I'm not even one of these "blind fanboys" you claim exist.

I'm done with this thread. Everyone should be. And they should be a bannable offense at this point.
(Sigh) Lets begin shall we?

Lets give ZeroMachine, jpwoody and daveman247 an applause for actually saying something clear about Half Life rather than being just lazy like the 90% of the comments out of context (If i forget someone i will edit it later, kinda tired of writing.

I didn't put the Requiem: The Avenging Angel example over there for show, that game was released AFTER the success of HL1 and frankly i am not surprised. After all, i said before in my comments that a success like this in the game industry should have changed it to the point that a non stop clones of Half Life should have ensued. I mean why not? they did it for Doom when it was popular so i expected the same for a game critically acclaimed and that sold well to cover the expenses that ALMOST killed Valve to the point of shutting down.
But weirdly enough i cant recall more games like Half Life 1 and later i found out that Requiem was released in April 1999 in contrast to HL1 released in November 1998 so that means it was already in production and has nothing to do with HL1 at all even if it use some elements that HL1 is praised off like if it was the Evil Twin of HL (unless they can make a game that long in less than 6 months)

So i guess that the industry just though "its just another FPS" "Its success its just luck because it was released in winter time where no one has something to do" Etc. HOWEVER after a few years came Half Life 2 and ONCE AGAIN it proved that this series doesn't suck nor have any luck on its success and deserves mention for being a sequel that doesn't suck to a game that doesn't suck either. That its 2 BIG SUCCESSES AFTER ONE ANOTHER and they cant ignore it now. You may think that the clone wave will ensue, right??? .....................apparently no. Well, just recently with Crysis 2 and Resistance 3 but that its more on the plot aspect than anything (Your Milage May Vary).

So what happened??? I know that we normally make fun of the producers for being corrupt and evil (insert Imperial March here) but what could they know that we don't??? I am a firm believer in humans being greedy as fuck so, again, i was expecting the industry to follow Half Life as an example if they smelled the money behind the success but it didn't. So that its the big question here. Producers could have exploited the nostalgia out of the fans with 100% of success if they had just followed the HL formula but no impact was registered on the industry at least not until recent years. As Yathzee said before "I love how innovation now means catching up to Valve"

I cant stress this enough without referring to Citizen Kane again. Critically acclaimed and "Best movie of all time". I see that the effort of making the visuals be just as good as the acting is quite nice along with the Chiaroscuro, and yet it managed to flop in the box office. The reason?? fuck if i know. Maybe it has something to do with Howard Hughes, a guy that accused Orson Welles of making this movie as an attack for his persona, so perhaps he pulled a few strings and convinced people that it sucked??

Another candidate is John Carpenter's The Thing for "Best Horror Movie of All Time" who just made 4 Millons of dollars more than its its production value but was bashed in every way when it came out. Here are the word of the director himself

"I take every failure hard. The one I took the hardest was The Thing. My career would have been different if that had been a big hit...The movie was hated. Even by science-fiction fans. They thought that I had betrayed some kind of trust, and the piling on was insane. Even the original movie?s director, Christian Nyby, was dissing me."
?John Carpenter on the reception of The Thing

It doesn't help that 2 weeks earlier E.T The Extraterrestrial was released and probably the people thought that this is going to be another light hearted adventure with an alien and, you know, dismiss the fact that The Thing was directed by John Carpenter who also made the Halloween movies (first 3). A series that i remind you are from the serial killer genre that has been plaguing the cinemas all up to this day (after all, if a formula works you have to copy it).
Even Blade Runner (another best of all time) was released at the same time as The Thing.

See a pattern here? movie get released, it underperformed , and many years later is lauded as the best thing ever. Logic? ......please? If it was that good then it wouldn't be a failure. But Half Life is a strange case because it manages to win 2 times with the 2 games and yet no one goes to rip the shit out of it. Its right there, just pick the bait.
So the people who don't like the game aren't the only persons that think that the game may not be so great to use it as a cash in. Its simple as that and i want you to think about it because it bugs the fuck out of me.
Maybe the sad true could be that the game is being seen under nostalgia goggles but i fear that its something worse. Think about it with the movies comparation. Are we doing the same thing with the CoD and Halo series and others what the people did in 1941 when Citizen Kane was released recently and didn't like it?? Maybe they ALSO believed that the films from before actually were better. Or how about in 1982 when The Thing came out and Citizen Kane was acclaimed as the Best of all time and the people who saw The Thing from Another World made in 1951 tough that this "remake" was a piece of shit??? Can you see it now why i cant take the "nostalgia goggles" seriously when it doesn't make any sense?

You may also notice that most of the good comments ALSO mention that HL2 is better than current generation shooters (i assume that they refer to CoD or Battlefield) Let me be clear here, using these shooters to compare them with HL2 is cheap. Cheap as using Nazis to have a villain in your game or movie because they are Nazis and Nazis are evil in human form and not just normal people. Another example would be comparing Ravioli with Bologneza and dog turds. Of course that one may prefer the Ravioli over the turds but the point of all this is to compare it to something else that its equally as good. Especially if they the people are going with the "Best game x all time" title with HL2.

I think i finished with all the people quoted here so you may leave or keep reading what i am going to say to this gentleman:

FieryTrainwreck said:
This thread reminds me: I'm working on a bit of a theory. In a nutshell: contradiction is a verifiable and possibly quantifiable part of our human nature. Any idea, no matter how seemingly fool-proof or universally praised, is subject to a minimum amount of dissent. Further, given the absolute inevitability of this dissent and its apparently unimportant or nonexistent basis, we can and probably should fucking ignore the people who are disagreeing a) for disagreement's sake or b) to satisfy some pathological drive to differentiate from their peers in a misguided effort to elevate themselves. Only when the dissent reaches a threshhold whereby the opposing view cannot be considered a slam-dunk consensus should we deign to honor the contradictory view with any sort of serious consideration.
This is wrong.

Can you tell why? think for a minute

.....

Done? if the answer to this comment is "NO SHIT SHERLOCK" then you are mostly in the right path but for the wrong reason.

You see, that comment over there is wrong because the person reminds us that there are no absolutes in the universe and having another opinion on something that is loudly acclaimed as good and incapable of error is legitimately.
And that is the problem. Why i have to be reminded of something that i already know?? But wait, apparently the rest of the people don't know about it................ How?

No really. How is that you don't know about this?? It should be pretty obvious at this point in your life that there are no absolutes. You think you know the answers of what is right and wrong?? Well, guess what? The politicians that accused the game Night Trap of being a violent murder simulator were pretty fucking confident on the "material" they had in hands to deliver their speeches to the masses and fully believed the bullshit written there. Take a guess of what the game was about??? It was about BEING A COP PROTECTING A BUNCH OF TEENAGE GIRLS FROM MURDERERS it is being told on the very FIRST 5 MUNUTES OF THE GAME!!!! FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!!
So lets see, a bunch of powerful people cant even make the effort researching shit that wont even take much time of their lives but the fact that they fully believed this ignorant idea is just baffling. You may think that because it was the 90's and the Internet wasnt around could have make research kite difficult but, again, just 5 fucking minutes man. Just 5 minutes right in that seat over there, come on, take a seat and play.

So how about this FieryTrainwreck; Since you are into dept thought (i hope) why not take your time to think about how is it possible to shape the minds of the masses into believing bullshit that can be proven wrong in less than anything?? Especially in the Age of Information where there is no fucking excuse unlike the Night Trap example. How much is the laziness a factor into this??? Why people still believe that comics/cartoons/games are for children when even The Simpsons have proven that a carton can be for adults?? How this "Arbitrary Skepticism" is still alive after all this years???? Why people think that Aquaman is still the same noob that was in a cartoon made in the 60's when there are almost 50 years of characterization??? JUST WHY???

Thank you.
 

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The game was good, just the head crabs were dumb. Like people where attacking you with a chicken on their heads.
 

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I personally didn't play Half-life 2 until earlier this year. I loved it to be honest, I liked the story the most.

I liked the atmosphere and the pacing. The weapon variety was what I come to expect from a good FPS (i.e. 10 weapons minimum not the 2 only)

I have to say the set pieces were amazing, I found the water level to take a bit too long. But some parts of it, where seriously exhilarating while running from the chopper trying not to get shot to bits.

Now, I don't like COD or MW games not really because of the weapon restrictions, or the tired set pieces and such. But mainly because of the online community. Really that's all it boils down to for me. I generally leave those guys to their own devices, I mean I'm not into madden yearly roster update either and I think that constantly purchasing it causes that particular genre to stagnate and become and easy cash cow for EA.

But I leave what I like to term the "gaming" jock to their own devices. They get to scream racism, sexism, and bigotry to each other, and keep playing their soldier and sport-star fantasies and I get my fantasy hero, space ship captain, and gun wielding physicists fantasies.
 

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SirBryghtside said:
I love Half-Life 2 because I was having fun all the way through it, more fun than I've had with any other game. The storyline was good too, and filled with a lot of emotional moments - using my favourite storytelling technique that you can also find in the likes of TES and Portal.

Anyway, it looks like the OP is trying to go about this objectively. Oh boy, that always makes for a good, sensible discussion...
ZeroMachine said:
Nice post count you got there ;)
What? I don't get it. What's going on...

OH MY GOD 5000 POSTS :D


Not that I was trying to reach any goal, but hey, I'm surprised I stuck around this long. I've never stuck with a forum this much. Ever. Even ones my friends made :p

And considering how many headaches certain topics have given me in the past (*cough*) I'm even more surprised.
 

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DioWallachia said:
Myself, I am a critic to the greatest degree. My favorite game of all time ties between Halo:CE and AoE2, and I will still call them out for being pieces of shit. Everything wrong with this industry, and many industries in general is the acceptance of mediocrity for greatness - so on that note, I applaud you for pointing it out. But I doubt you wouldn't defend your favorite games with the same vehement fury you use attacking HL2.

You can't really bash people for having an opinion, regardless of how stupid you think it is. I am sure some of these people are experiencing cognitive dissonance and others are just having bouts of nostalgia.

In the words of the great Homer Simpson; "everything is great about the past except how it lead to the present".
 

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@DioWallachia
Firstly I'm quite concerned that you seem to have such venomous hatred for a game you have never played. You are allowed to like both Call of Duty and Half Life 2 you know, the two aren't exclusive.

Secondly Half Life has always been a benchmark for depth in the FPS genre. Storyline wise you had critics saying things like "Half Life 2 always felt like the European arthouse answer to the Hollywood bluster of Halo and Call of Duty" It was subtle both in it's storyline and how it revealed that storyline through the gameplay rather than disconnect the player from the experience with cutscenes. It also had further depth within that gameplay, multiple weapons, environments and enemies.

Also as an extra bonus; it gave us one of the most respected representations of women in videogames through Alyx. She's a normal person, not some contorted, fanservice ,caricature.

That's some of the reasons I, and a lot of other people, love HL2. To oppose those views convincingly you are going to have to at least try the game. I have a free copy in my Steam inventory if you want it ;)
 

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Skin said:
DioWallachia said:
Myself, I am a critic to the greatest degree. My favorite game of all time ties between Halo:CE and AoE2, and I will still call them out for being pieces of shit. Everything wrong with this industry, and many industries in general is the acceptance of mediocrity for greatness - so on that note, I applaud you for pointing it out. But I doubt you wouldn't defend your favorite games with the same vehement fury you use attacking HL2.

You can't really bash people for having an opinion, regardless of how stupid you think it is. I am sure some of these people are experiencing cognitive dissonance and others are just having bouts of nostalgia.

In the words of the great Homer Simpson; "everything is great about the past except how it lead to the present".
Actually as i said earlier, my favorite games are the Legacy Of Kain and IJI. But i made a bunch of post recently to tear apart every single plot hole that the series LoK has forgotten to answer and that lead it to its demise even if they added a combat system that didn't suck as hard. So you see, i can merciless "review" things i like. See the wall of text right here (there are many of those and i don't know if you could understand them if you didn't play the game)

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.335582-Legacy-of-Kain?page=2

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@DioWallachia
Firstly I'm quite concerned that you seem to have such venomous hatred for a game you have never played. You are allowed to like both Call of Duty and Half Life 2 you know, the two aren't exclusive.

Secondly Half Life has always been a benchmark for depth in the FPS genre. Storyline wise you had critics saying things like "Half Life 2 always felt like the European arthouse answer to the Hollywood bluster of Halo and Call of Duty" It was subtle both in it's storyline and how it revealed that storyline through the gameplay rather than disconnect the player from the experience with cutscenes. It also had further depth within that gameplay, multiple weapons, environments and enemies.

Also as an extra bonus; it gave us one of the most respected representations of women in videogames through Alyx. She's a normal person, not some contorted, fanservice ,caricature.

That's some of the reasons I, and a lot of other people, love HL2. To oppose those views convincingly you are going to have to at least try the game. I have a free copy in my Steam inventory if you want it ;)
I am the kind of person that finds more interesting to know about George Lucas rise as an idealistic filmmaker that fought against the system and fall into corruption and become the system in the same way as a real Charles Foster Kane rather than the movies he has constantly raped over the years with rerererererererererelease

I like the ambition that was behind the making of IJI and specially Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2. The decent animation with subtle body language that made them fell alive rather than being stuck in a.... how can i say this?? Remember the unit portraits of Starcraft?? every time the talked the made a eternal loop moving the head a little over and over to pretend that they are actually talking?? Yeah...not as good and worse yet LoK: Blood Omen 2 did the same thing and was terrible for a game of a next generation console. The Shakespearean voice actors however are the icing of the cake to the point that we wont be having this converzation if it werent for them. Why? Because i didnt even speak English back then, when i heard the game in my language i said "fuck it, back to the original" they delivered it in such a way that made me want to know what in the fuck they were saying that was so powerful and dramatic. Playing Diablo 2 multiplayer also helped but that place is more like the Michael Bay Academy of English, where every single line is crime againts English language: "Y Suck N00b", "Can i has Rune?", "Give me 7 Gulls daggers = my Frosburn Gauntlet, was taht?? you cant pay?? well you suck cock for being such a lozer" and so on.

I found that Half Life seems like the kind of thing i will like specially since it managed to survive this long (by that i mean that people actually remember it) However the fact that both series made NO impact (or little) at all seems like something is off. They work their ass off to pull a masterpiece only to fail even if they did everything right?? maybe i was wrong and Lok and HL arent as good as they seems and i just see Lok with nostalgia googles. And, as i pointed out earlier, nostalgia isnt doing any good at all if we look back so munch that we cant take new things a chance until its too late and later the cycle repeats itself again with the things that once we despised. Maybe there is a conspiracy going on but i fear that people will flood the comments with "The conspiracy is augmented" , "The conspiracy is all product of a paradox" or "Nanomachines"

It doesnt help that i cant point out if the HL2 thing is either:
1)Nostalgia that gets reinforced by the "crappy" FPS of today (notice the quotations marks)
2)Recomended in the same way that Yahtzee does for Skyrim and Ninja Gaiden 2 because making those games successful will make the producers of other companies to do similar games with "improvements" and hopefully get it right.

But wait, why would the producers care right now about what formula works if when HL2 came out they didnt even started to make HL clones back then?? Why start now?
 

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SirBryghtside said:
I love Half-Life 2 because I was having fun all the way through it, more fun than I've had with any other game. The storyline was good too, and filled with a lot of emotional moments - using my favourite storytelling technique that you can also find in the likes of TES and Portal.

Anyway, it looks like the OP is trying to go about this objectively. Oh boy, that always makes for a good, sensible discussion...
ZeroMachine said:
Nice post count you got there ;)
Alright.............so, any questions?

Oh and before you ask, Cthulhu gave me the prescription just now for the Sanity Pills so we can talk just fine.
 

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I couldnt play it back then but now with all the praise it gets and the non stop recomendation of the people towards it like it was the Citizen Kane of gaming of all time i have become tired to the point that i dont want to play it anymore.

Seriously, could you people at least tell me why is good? compared to WHAT kind of game is good?? Have you play anything else back then or its just pure nostalgia filter now? and not in the kind of response of: "it has a good story and gameplay mechanics and gives free blowjobs"

Noooonononononono. I need a REAL answer. Like a specific part that sets appart this game from the rest.

Thank you for your time.

EDIT: When i said "I dont want to play it anymore" is that whatever simple curiosity i had for this game it has banished because of the hype and the mindless people that keep telling me that i should play it and everything else is just crap ripoff of Doom or Zelda. See why now i cant bear to play it?? or wait, you cant apparently because you keep confusing Hype Aversion with hate.
Something has the be the Citizen Kane of gaming, why shouldn't it be Half-Life 2? It's got one of the most likable, well thought out and developped side kicks in gaming history. The graphics hold up well even today. It broke new grounds with physics and physics being used as a central part of gameplay and even as a weapon. The story was great. The characters enjoyable. The setting was good. The writting also very good. The pacing was fantastic. I cold continue praising it but the point is it's a great game.
 

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dagens24 said:
DioWallachia said:
I couldnt play it back then but now with all the praise it gets and the non stop recomendation of the people towards it like it was the Citizen Kane of gaming of all time i have become tired to the point that i dont want to play it anymore.

Seriously, could you people at least tell me why is good? compared to WHAT kind of game is good?? Have you play anything else back then or its just pure nostalgia filter now? and not in the kind of response of: "it has a good story and gameplay mechanics and gives free blowjobs"

Noooonononononono. I need a REAL answer. Like a specific part that sets appart this game from the rest.

Thank you for your time.

EDIT: When i said "I dont want to play it anymore" is that whatever simple curiosity i had for this game it has banished because of the hype and the mindless people that keep telling me that i should play it and everything else is just crap ripoff of Doom or Zelda. See why now i cant bear to play it?? or wait, you cant apparently because you keep confusing Hype Aversion with hate.
Something has the be the Citizen Kane of gaming, why shouldn't it be Half-Life 2? It's got one of the most likable, well thought out and developped side kicks in gaming history. The graphics hold up well even today. It broke new grounds with physics and physics being used as a central part of gameplay and even as a weapon. The story was great. The characters enjoyable. The setting was good. The writting also very good. The pacing was fantastic. I cold continue praising it but the point is it's a great game.
Because it has interactive cutscenes. Fuck those things. Plus the antiquated health bar. And a scroll-for-melee interface that was bloody useless in a time of crisis. And the fact I spent my entire playing of the game stuck in a pissing sewer because there was no bloody clue where I was supposed to go. Then I hurt myself, had to turn off to go do something else, reloaded my save and got shot dead. 10% health and no fucking health kit nearby, no way of backtracking, and cheating fucking Combine dicks.

EDIT: Though, in its defence, the graphics were definitely better than I expected.
 
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The misunderstanding of HL 2's praise has almost reached FFVII proportions where the game is claim to be overrated by so many it may as well have come full circle and be considered underrated or just rated.
 

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Because it has interactive cutscenes. Fuck those things. Plus the antiquated health bar. And a scroll-for-melee interface that was bloody useless in a time of crisis. And the fact I spent my entire playing of the game stuck in a pissing sewer because there was no bloody clue where I was supposed to go. Then I hurt myself, had to turn off to go do something else, reloaded my save and got shot dead. 10% health and no fucking health kit nearby, no way of backtracking, and cheating fucking Combine dicks.

EDIT: Though, in its defense, the graphics were definitely better than I expected.
In what sense does the interactive cutscenes suck? That you cant skip them like the "bad" cutscenes of other games? That even with all the freedom given it makes you feel that you are not making any impact on the world until someone stop talking?? Do you think that if they did the Deus Ex aproach would have been better? Like having a conversation for EVERY SINGLE THING YOU DO.

You know what i find weird?? That i havent heard any mention of a inventory system. You know, the ones that Hexen and even Duke Nukem with Portable Medkits and the Holo Duke

totally heterosexual said:
Hey seriously dont ignore me.
Sorry my no entender idioma :D

Wait, didnt i already made another wall of text for everyone to see including you?? what do you want?