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As an Aussie fan, I can tell you one thing about Tomorrow When the War Began.MovieBob said:
The acting is going to shit you up the fucking wall. It's pretty much just our soap opera stars giving it a go on the silver screen, and there's one actress i'm not even sure knows the cameras are rolling...
But otherwise, Read the book first and then make up your mind about whether it's worth seeing, because they haven't departed from it to much. They've tried to make it a little to hollywood action movie, and less 'survival from the mind of a patriotic Australian teenager who's been trust into an adult situation mid-way through growing up' sorta story.
But yeah, worth it i'd say. It'd thrill the pants off your Aussie fans to see you review it.
How can you abuse Bob in such a way as to actually encourage him to read that broken crappy book that i honestly (as a member of it's target audience) couldn't force myself to finish. I'm a person that likes reading and openly despise people who say "books are boring". Plus you know how usually the book is better than the movie. Trust me I was dragged along to watch over my little sister when she went see it and i can only say 1 hour of my life that i will never get back. I seriously had to take a 20 minute dump not to kill myself.Zeeky_Santos said:
This shit is in my opinion worse than twilight in every conceivable way. I absolutely despise twilight. You could replicate the experience by pissing on your hand after you drank an entire cup of mercury (assuming you miraculously survive).
I do not recommend this movie to anyone. It could be used to torture information out of people. I wish it had never been made. 40 in i was was reduced to tears when i realized i was only half done. It's one of those movies were you wonder who made it and how they didn't realize what they were doing.
I can (and should) go on for paragraph more about why the Australian film industry shouldn't exist for the excuse of this movie alone but i won't.
I can only sum it up in one sentence.
Total horrifying abomination that was scientifically designed to cause an allergic reaction in me.
There seems to be a degree of polarization in opinions about Tomorrow, When the War Began (with this particular series, John Marsden seemed to have had a hard-on for unwieldy titles. "The Third Day, the Frost" anyone?), so now I'm going to throw my hat into the ring.
It could be argued that the film's biggest (and only?) strength is also one of its weaknesses. As far as I could tell, the film is pretty faithful to the novel. Mind you, the last time I read the novel was about 15 years ago, so my recollection is almost certainly hazy. The most notable difference I found between the novel and the film was the character of Chris, who has undergone a metamorphosis from an alcoholic deadbeat into a terrible stoner cliche who serves as (abysmal) comic relief. Then there's also the issue of the dialogue. Oh lordy, is it *bad* in places. I found myself wincing and facepalming at the sheer corniness of some of the lines. An issue I found with the novels (upon reflection) is that they do rely quite a bit (some would say too much) on willing suspension of disbelief, and it (in my opinion) didn't translate particularly well onto the big screen. I can see this being particularly problematic for the next two films (which have been greenlighted, apparently).
And now for the biggest problem I had with the movie - namely, the casting. They *really* dropped the ball here. As others have said, it is basically a bunch of Australian soap opera stars being given a shot at the silver screen. I suspect this decision was purely the result of budget constraints (and partly due to a serious lack of young talent in Australia at the moment), but damn, it really hurts the film. I have since hypothesized that Caitlin Stasey must have overdosed on Botox before shooting began on the film, as I simply refuse to believe that a human face can be so devoid of emotion. Then again, I can imagine that four years as a member of the cast of Neighbours could turn even the most jovial person into an empty, soulless husk.
It could be argued that the film's biggest (and only?) strength is also one of its weaknesses. As far as I could tell, the film is pretty faithful to the novel. Mind you, the last time I read the novel was about 15 years ago, so my recollection is almost certainly hazy. The most notable difference I found between the novel and the film was the character of Chris, who has undergone a metamorphosis from an alcoholic deadbeat into a terrible stoner cliche who serves as (abysmal) comic relief. Then there's also the issue of the dialogue. Oh lordy, is it *bad* in places. I found myself wincing and facepalming at the sheer corniness of some of the lines. An issue I found with the novels (upon reflection) is that they do rely quite a bit (some would say too much) on willing suspension of disbelief, and it (in my opinion) didn't translate particularly well onto the big screen. I can see this being particularly problematic for the next two films (which have been greenlighted, apparently).
And now for the biggest problem I had with the movie - namely, the casting. They *really* dropped the ball here. As others have said, it is basically a bunch of Australian soap opera stars being given a shot at the silver screen. I suspect this decision was purely the result of budget constraints (and partly due to a serious lack of young talent in Australia at the moment), but damn, it really hurts the film. I have since hypothesized that Caitlin Stasey must have overdosed on Botox before shooting began on the film, as I simply refuse to believe that a human face can be so devoid of emotion. Then again, I can imagine that four years as a member of the cast of Neighbours could turn even the most jovial person into an empty, soulless husk.
You win.HankMan said:
ANYWAY
I'm an Aussie, I loved the Tomorrow books, and I went into the movie expecting a pale imitation that didn't quite grasp the reality, the emotion or the feel of the books...
And I was wrong.
Tomorrow when the War Began is a wonderful movie that, without spoiling anything, tugs on some of our inner fears, hopes and even with it being about teenagers, you still get the feeling that these are real people.
Think of another teen-based movie that does that. Go ahead.
Yeah, there's not a lot of them.
A brilliant movie, good for a watch, not redefining anything but certainly the kind of movie you don't want to dismiss.
I do not recommend Tomorrow when the war began to anyone. Both the book and movie. I apologize for the incredibly poor grammar. But my opinion on the movie while, filled with rage, was expressed adequately in the above comment. However i shall state my opinion on the movie again in a much less troll like manner.Zeeky_Santos said:
This movie was easily in the top five worst experiences of my life. I hated that movie on every level and i honestly believe more entertainment can be had at a higher level of quality for free off the internet.
Do not watch that movie. It isn't even so bad it's funny. It's just bad. And if you have watched the movie i extend my sympathies.
Well considered enough for "ya"?
Nice to know the film works. So many of these concept flicks are interesting but have zero pay-offs.
Yeah, while I can never say Smallville has been good, it's managed to last 10 seasons and pull in pretty good ratings for a cable show, even during the friday death slot, though granted the death slot applies more to major networks than cable ones. It's even had a bit of an impact on the franchise, tackling a few subjects about Superman's origins we take for granted. Of course, it also made you want to hate Kristin Kreuk, but luckily Chuck fixed that for me...
Yeah, while I can never say Smallville has been good, it's managed to last 10 seasons and pull in pretty good ratings for a cable show, even during the friday death slot, though granted the death slot applies more to major networks than cable ones. It's even had a bit of an impact on the franchise, tackling a few subjects about Superman's origins we take for granted. Of course, it also made you want to hate Kristin Kreuk, but luckily Chuck fixed that for me...
Tomorrow When The War Began is alright. I'd say go see it to see how some new aussie actors are shaping up, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
It has cool explosions.
It has cool explosions.
It's just an emoticon. It's not a big deal. Get over it. You're not going to die from looking at a stupid smiley for two seconds. Also the word you're looking for is resent, not recent.Nincompoop said:
Red Dawn = THE war movie for eight year old boys.
Tomorrow When the War Began, Book series = Red Dawn for adults. Highly recommended.
Tomorrow When the War Began, Film = Tomorrow When the War Began for Tween Girls. Faithful to the events in the book but fails to capture the tone and ditches most of the introspection in favour of 'splosions.
Tomorrow When the War Began, Book series = Red Dawn for adults. Highly recommended.
Tomorrow When the War Began, Film = Tomorrow When the War Began for Tween Girls. Faithful to the events in the book but fails to capture the tone and ditches most of the introspection in favour of 'splosions.
Speaking of which... I can't get past the point where I'm thinking "WTH, this guy would have run out of air and died before he even woke up, never mind having enough air to act out a whole drama in a little box by lighter-light."
Yeah, I'm one of those people who points out the unreality of horror flicks. Like, wouldn't that chainsaw get heavy as hell after a mile or so? (And run out of gas.) No fun. XD
Yeah, I'm one of those people who points out the unreality of horror flicks. Like, wouldn't that chainsaw get heavy as hell after a mile or so? (And run out of gas.) No fun. XD
I wonder how this movie stacks up against Phonebooth.
Interesting people are going to make a movie about one of the worst DC heroes while one of the most fascinating DC heroes gets stuck on tv with a guy who all but epitomized bland at a certain point?
What's up with Superman in Europe anyway. I don't care a bit about the guy. I know nobody personally who cares about Superman even the slightest iota. And I hang around a pretty geeky array of people (and regularly shop at a comics store). The last movie came and went at the local cinema within a week. There were no commercials whatsoever. Not even a terrible review on how bad the movie was because it was based on a comic book like I get with every other comic adaptation.
He's like the ultimate American hero and Europeans go: "yeah, yeah, sure, that dude again, yadda, yadda, don't care, next topic."
Wonder Woman finally getting made is something I really want to see.
Superman I probably won't, and even if, I'll probably have to go to the cinema by my lonesome, which is annoying as hell.
Interesting people are going to make a movie about one of the worst DC heroes while one of the most fascinating DC heroes gets stuck on tv with a guy who all but epitomized bland at a certain point?
What's up with Superman in Europe anyway. I don't care a bit about the guy. I know nobody personally who cares about Superman even the slightest iota. And I hang around a pretty geeky array of people (and regularly shop at a comics store). The last movie came and went at the local cinema within a week. There were no commercials whatsoever. Not even a terrible review on how bad the movie was because it was based on a comic book like I get with every other comic adaptation.
He's like the ultimate American hero and Europeans go: "yeah, yeah, sure, that dude again, yadda, yadda, don't care, next topic."
Wonder Woman finally getting made is something I really want to see.
Superman I probably won't, and even if, I'll probably have to go to the cinema by my lonesome, which is annoying as hell.
But... I'm not an equal opportunities lech - I'm a very boring heterosexual lechspaceman12 said:
In all seriousness, though? I hear you; and to whatever degree I'm able to I sympathize with your frustration.
The #1 thing that bothers/dissapoints me about my "profession" - i.e. internet pop-culture critic/commentator - is how "monocultural" a genre it is. I don't mean that to at all "slight" or diminish all the awesome work being done out there by so many talented people, but it's hard to miss that the field is pretty-much dominated (in the mass-consciousness, anyway) by, well... guys like me: White, heterosexual men in their mid-20s and early-30s. I'm not infering anything "sinister" about that - just that it's kind of a shame, because the gamer/geek/fan/etc community and EXPERIENCE is so much bigger and more varied than that.
What I mean is, I'm racking my brain right now trying to think who would be the female or GLBT "answer" to Yahtzee or the Angry Nerd for gaming, or to myself or The Nostalgia Critic for movies, and not many are jumping to mind... and that kinda sucks, because it would be SO benefitial to the discussion to have those voices more prominently heard. And even though I mostly do the "oooh, hot actress" bit for self-parody; I absolutely want for there to be (and hope there is) a gay movie-critic out there doing a similar "bit" from his perspective, because the genre needs it and the culture needs it. I want to hear what, just for some examples, a gay gamer thinks of God of War. I want to hear a woman's perspective on Batman. I want to hear how "Call of Duty" is recieved in the Middle East.
This is one of the many reasons I'm so proud to be part of The Escapist, because it really is such a "big tent." You need look no further than Rebecca Mayes - whose such a unique and important voice and perspective in gaming culture - for evidence of that.
Bob. "Tomorrow When The War Began" is the worst kind of movie... Its an Australian Action movie.
As an Australian myself, I hereby state that we suck at action... Well except from Mad Max 1, because that was epic.
Australian directors arnt all bad, just most of them are. And we produce some horrid movies... you simply need look at Babe, Crocodile Dundee 1, 2 and 3, Wolf Creek and Undead(its an Australian horror movie that im not sure if its meant to be serious or not.. but its fucking awful).
As an Australian myself, I hereby state that we suck at action... Well except from Mad Max 1, because that was epic.
Australian directors arnt all bad, just most of them are. And we produce some horrid movies... you simply need look at Babe, Crocodile Dundee 1, 2 and 3, Wolf Creek and Undead(its an Australian horror movie that im not sure if its meant to be serious or not.. but its fucking awful).
See Tomorrow When the War Began. I'm not saying I like it or I hate it. And the reason is quiet simple. I want to see what you think of it. It has good and bad moments. Anyone who dismisses it out of hand is an idiot because while it might not be a great (or even good) movie it will invigorate the Australian Movie Industry. Which lets face it, we need.
See it when it comes out and if you rip it to shreds those that hate it will be vindicated. But give it even the slightest bit of praise and many who would ignore it will see and maybe help make Australian movies seem more appealing to investors down under.
See it when it comes out and if you rip it to shreds those that hate it will be vindicated. But give it even the slightest bit of praise and many who would ignore it will see and maybe help make Australian movies seem more appealing to investors down under.
I do definitely want to see this as the premise sounds interesting and I quite enjoy most of Ryan Reynolds' work.. but I'm just not sure on seeing it in the theater. With most movies it's pretty easy to say if it's a theater movie or not, but for this one I can see aspects of it that would both take advantage of the theater experience and that wouldn't be helped by it at all.