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Nerf Ninja

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On the Yahtzee / Bob thing:

Yahtzee insulting people is an acknowledged part of his "schtick" doesn't really mean he means it (Well not completely)

Bob insulting people sounds like really meant it.

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But, especially in this day of Internet boobs, Bob would agree (as he noted sort of in his Heavy Metal review) that nudity alone is not going to put butts in seats. I can see more surfing in 5 minutes for free than I will at something like this. But, it is typically a nice bonus to a movie I want to see anyway.
Except that's pretty much all he seems to focus on in his reviews...
 

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Okay, now, I've seen Piranha, I've seen Expendables, I've even seen Centurion (I do consider myself a movie nut as on average I'll see two flicks a week, and that's just in theaters). I'm still calling BS here.

Now, Piranha is probably still the better movie for one reason: editing. Nevermind the 3D aspect, Expendables had some serious artificial shaky cam problems in a few scenes, which was baffling since a couple of scenes had great shots, like Terry Crews using his big-old shotgun repeatedly. Piranha 3D meanwhile has none of that, and while the violence in Expendables was cartoonish for the most part, Piranha's own violence actually felt more realistic even though it had acts that were physically impossible to do while dying. I say this because seeing a guy get flat out murdered by Statham and Li was awesome if a bit gross while seeing a porn star get slashed in half made me quite queasy. 3D may have been a factor there though.

Still, for everything else, BS. The plot was fine. It wasn't epic, no, but it wasn't crap by any means. It doesn't need anything to excuse its short-comings as it still, at the end of the day, was a solid flick, though certainly not something I'd expect people to tout as being best film of the year, at least in general. Piranha and Expendables also made pretty good use of their cast, each actor and actress in both playing to their strengths. Each film does also have a weak link however, Piranha having Ving Rhames really phone it in until his final scene while Expendables had Randy Couture who's a pretty awful actor but at least he had a good fight in the end. Really the only things needed to make Expendables the stronger movie than Piranha would have been to not shake the camera so much and instead of giving everyone new names give the film a sense of meta by having them all use their real names. Given that people will just refer to the cast mostly by their real names anyhow it kind of makes sense that they'd do that in-film.

I do want to call out the claim that Piranha's a better movie for having woman on woman action in 3D. While you can't necessarily find that on the internet (Yet, and even then I didn't look), its a movie about killer fish. The scenes add little to characterization and are really just there to pander to the male audience, giving the film padding and exploiting its R-rating. While I'm fine with exploiting an R-rating, praising the movie for using a woman's nice rack over a film that actually tried to be a little deep (thank you Mickey Rourke) while still having a great deal of fun is total BS. At least in Expendables there were no pointless scenes (cue someone pointing out a scene I'd forgotten about).
 

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Hey look, Piranha 3D is a pure action movie. Last week I believe you said liking the premise of such a film makes you a idiot? Or the worst kind of person? I can't remember what exactly. But hey, egg on face much?
 

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Man, I just watched Centurion 2 days ago and liked it, someone must be watching me...

I got to see Piranha's 3D now...
 

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Nerf Ninja said:
Gorfias said:
But, especially in this day of Internet boobs, Bob would agree (as he noted sort of in his Heavy Metal review) that nudity alone is not going to put butts in seats. I can see more surfing in 5 minutes for free than I will at something like this. But, it is typically a nice bonus to a movie I want to see anyway.
Except that's pretty much all he seems to focus on in his reviews...
I can't agree. I think the reason I was so taken back by his take on Expendables is he is often spot on with his reviews. IE, It was because of him I bothered with Daybreakers and District 9 and really enjoyed them. So far, I have passed on "9" when he said it was Meh.

Even in this review, he drops the names of some older movies which I immediately added to Netflix (Dog Soldiers and Doomsday).

I regret you do not get as much out of him.
 

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Gxas said:
Stevanchez said:
Gxas said:
Well seeing as how he spent half of this review taking a shot at those people it wouldnt be the internet if they just let it lie

For my part, Expendables was average at best granted, but as others have pointed out don't insult your readers purely for their taste. Espicially when you hold up Piranha 3D as the counterpoint, and I love tits in a movie as much as the next guy.

Also I saw Centurian over a week ago and there is some great action in there but the chracterisation leaves a lot to be desired, although Dominic West channels Jimmy Mcnulty very well, "dont fuck with the ninth" indeed.

It would be a stretch to even call this video a review for Centurian as all you say is the directors previous films are good and it has Michael Fassbender in it, Hardly Exhaustive
And two wrongs have always made a right, right?

He's no good for bringing it up again and you're no good for continuing to hold the grudge. So he insulted you, who the fuck cares? People insult other people daily. This is life. Get over it.
Uh did you even read my post? I make no mention of holding a grudge, I merely pointed out that people were going to reply in kind as thats what people do, then expressed an opinion regarding the current debate

I then went on to talk about this weeks review and why I thought it could use more detail, I dont care about the expendables or wherever he likes it or not. All I wanted was more meat on the bones about the movie he was talking about this week
 

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Wow. Just...wow.

The level of bile in this thread is staggering.

I'm not going to take sides, if everyone was more intelligent with their responses, then maybe there would be decent scope for rational discussion. Sadly, all I can see is both sides whining at the other with little regard for a coherent argument. Granted, there are a few decent posts, but they're drowned out by the sheer volume of mud throwing. And that's a damn shame.

What the hell happened to you guys?
 

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Gxas said:
Stevanchez said:
Gxas said:
In this thread: People continue their discussion of the expendables from last week because no one knows how to let anything go.

Was expecting more of a review this week. I understand that nothing good came out, but still...
So, you expect the viewers to take the "high road", when MovieBob refuses to do so?

Bob was the one who brought the subject up again and insulted the same people that were pissed last week. So...Yeah, they kind of have a right to be pissed again.

Especially when, just a week after chastising them for liking a meaningless action flick, he praises an even more meaningless movie because, "it has lots of 3D boobies in it".

And two wrongs have always made a right, right?

He's no good for bringing it up again and you're no good for continuing to hold the grudge. So he insulted you, who the fuck cares? People insult other people daily. This is life. Get over it.
I'm not holding a grudge. I haven't even seen The Expendables and did not even take part in the, apparently, epic war of words that took place last week. But you can't expect people, especially those that were insulted last week, to hold their tongues when Bob throws a few more cheap shots in his video this week.

I agree that people should get over it. But you shouldn't defend Bob, when he apparently refuses to get over it himself.
 

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Alright Bob, I wasn't pissed off that you didn't like Expendables. A lot of my friends hate District 9 and Hot Fuzz (which are my two favorite movies). No, I was pissed off that you were insulting me cause I saw it, which you kept up in this review. That whole "jock" voice? Cmon dude, I'm sure your better than that. Just grow up, admit that your wrong for basically calling everyone who saw the movie worthless. You need to realize that Scott Pilgrim was marketed toward a select group and had a lead actor who mostly only appeals to a select group (and is hated by a large group). It was always destined for Cult Status/Critical Acclaim. It had no chance whatsoever of beating Expendables.

About the video though, there wasn't really much reviewing. Yeah nothing came out, but it seemed like more of the video was devoted to more Expendables bashing than anything else. Still though, I've never seen Centurion (or Dog Soldiers) and I'll probably check both of those out now. Hell maybe if I'm bored I'll see Piranha
 

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HBaskerville said:
Short answer - Bob needs an editor.

Like last week, this would have been a good review if the initial nonsense had been removed. Bob needed someone to edit the angst about Pilgrim tanking, and this week he needed an editor to snip the bitterness at the people that complained about his tears over Pilgrim tanking.

Hopefully next week it will all be out of his system and we can get back to reviews that aren't based on bitterness over what OTHER movies did or didn't do.

The actual review bits about Pirahana and Centurian were good.
Amen. Honestly...just let it go and stop trying to beat the internet with your videos - it doesn't happen for anyone.
 

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I expected Bob to do more of a review than "Its got blood and tits go see it and this other movie has blood and gore see that one too." Hopefully MovieBob just drops the whole Expendables thing because thats why people continue to talk about because MovieBob brought it up again not the other way around.
 

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Spot1990 said:
Stevanchez said:
Gxas said:
In this thread: People continue their discussion of the expendables from last week because no one knows how to let anything go.

Was expecting more of a review this week. I understand that nothing good came out, but still...
So, you expect the viewers to take the "high road", when MovieBob refuses to do so?

Bob was the one who brought the subject up again and insulted the same people that were pissed last week. So...Yeah, they kind of have a right to be pissed again.

Especially when, just a week after chastising them for liking a meaningless action flick, he praises an even more meaningless movie because, "it has lots of 3D boobies in it".
Yes Piranha is a meaningless action flick but it's a good one, boobs are just a bonus that's not what makes the movie good. Expendables isn't bad because it's an action flick, it's bad because it's a bad action flick. Think, Timecop, but even worse because even Van Damme knew to stay the fuck away from this one.
Yeah, no, Piranha's only slightly better due to better editing and making the gore actually somehow feel real. Expendables actually does a little, albeit not really as deep as some other flicks, analysis on what can happen to old soldiers. The problem is Piranha really is a mindless flick with everyone in it being hammy as heck and making it glorious. Because Expendables has a cartoon-ish tint and still attempts to be a bit deep (thank you Mickey Rourke) it comes off a bit unlear as to its goal, but it does achieve both directions decently. I've said it many times and I'll say it again: Expendables isn't a bad movie, it just had too many flaws to make it more than just plain solid. In spite of the nice idea of getting so many recognizable people together it failed to do anything that really made it awesome, from having them use their real names (which would of made the cartoonish-elements sing more) to pulling a Dirty Dozen (which would of made it a bit deeper).

And as I just pointed out a few posts up, Piranha has quite a bit of padding.

On an unrelated note to the quote above, I just want to throw out a 'screw you' to MovieBob for invoking strawman this week. I mean, it isn't even just that the movie was bashed. The movie was bashed for the wrong reasons and insulted anyone who liked it. Save that for Vampires Suck will you?
 

heamrh

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your the only one still taking about Expendables. I think you liked it and hate your self for it
 

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Moviebob your level of arrogance never ceases to amaze me, all you need to do is apologize for calling people names because they don't like the same movies you do.

What is it with you critics that when anyone dares to criticise you, makes you respond with hostility, I encourage you to have some humility and show some respect to your audience. I know you won't read this but it has to be said.
 

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ITT: 1, 2 people tops figure out that MovieBob is using comedic exaggeration.

I've never even heard of this "Centurion", looks cool though. Roman stuff is up there with viking stuff in the category of "history I give a shit about." Wars lost my interest not too long after the invention of gun powder.
 

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I usually have trouble agreeing with Bob's point of view but the first minute of this video was true to the point of inspiration
 

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Spot1990 said:
Stevanchez said:
Gxas said:
In this thread: People continue their discussion of the expendables from last week because no one knows how to let anything go.

Was expecting more of a review this week. I understand that nothing good came out, but still...
So, you expect the viewers to take the "high road", when MovieBob refuses to do so?

Bob was the one who brought the subject up again and insulted the same people that were pissed last week. So...Yeah, they kind of have a right to be pissed again.

Especially when, just a week after chastising them for liking a meaningless action flick, he praises an even more meaningless movie because, "it has lots of 3D boobies in it".
Yes Piranha is a meaningless action flick but it's a good one, boobs are just a bonus that's not what makes the movie good. Expendables isn't bad because it's an action flick, it's bad because it's a bad action flick. Think, Timecop, but even worse because even Van Damme knew to stay the fuck away from this one.
I second all of that Spot.
"Boobs do not a good movie make alone." It must have had something else going for it.

And I'll say this again- why are you guys offended? ON THE INTERNET, (what is this, I don't even...)? And what is the standard exactly? We can make fun of humanity as a whole, as well as despised individuals, but no groups of special interests?

Lemmy quote some Southpark here: "It's either all ok to make fun of, or none of it is."
 

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Clearly Bob you and I have different idea's on what is good. I thought that Dog Soldiers, The Descent, and Doomsday were all utter pieces of shite that didn't deserve to get made at all and were just a waste of my time and money. So I will start approaching your reviews differently, if you say something sucks then I'll assume you mean that it's excellent and I'll go see it.