I saw this movie yesterday. I actually liked it. Not to mention Gary Oldman is a badass 
There was a scene though that seemed pretty trippy.
There was a scene though that seemed pretty trippy.
Escape to the Movies: Red Riding Hood
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You were talking about no "girl" movies coming out. Just went and saw previews for not only that shark attack girl surfer, but also suckerpunch and the other "bourne"-like girl as well.
Bob... Girls are getting tons of good stuff.
*Beastly was a great movie.
Bob... Girls are getting tons of good stuff.
*Beastly was a great movie.
And Bob will probably be doing a review of "Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Roderick Rules". Seriously dude, you really needed to make time to see a movie that people on this board had interest in, it's just common sense.matt87_50 said:
Can anyone enlighten me on exactly how much this movie has to do with the Little Red Riding Hood myth? Other than featuring a scarlet-cloaked girl, woods, and a wolf...Recently I've been looking into the history of the Red Riding Hood legend, and I'd like to know what this modern adaptation has to add to the evolution...
Howard Taylor (author of Schlock Mercenary...) complained of Skyline that he wished he'd watched a story of a couple of soldiers trying to fight the aliens off that he glimpsed out the window of some building for half a scene in Skyline. The aliens are different, but Battle:LA is debatably that movie.PunkRex said:
More directly commenting on the movie, I think I enjoyed it mostly because I filled in the missing pieces of the story with the plot of any old (as in not recent) David Drake story. His stuff is much better, so I was expecting a downer ending that didn't happen but should have. (The last 20 minutes existed purely to have the good guys win, unfortunately.)
All I got out of this review was This movie doesn't suck as much as Twilight.
Edit: But I do love camp movies
Edit: But I do love camp movies
Just saw this movie (with my girlfriend ^.^). She said that she found it almost funny, with the ridiculous Twilight cash-in properties.
And (spoiler alert) the part where she picked up the guy's severed hand? What kind of sane person does that?? Furthermore, why would the townspeople just leave the dead guy's HAND simply lying in front of the church?
Edit: One more thing... With movies like this, where they flee to the church because it's a sanctuary from evil, why don't they just make the whole town a holy place? You know, like Vatican City?
And (spoiler alert) the part where she picked up the guy's severed hand? What kind of sane person does that?? Furthermore, why would the townspeople just leave the dead guy's HAND simply lying in front of the church?
Edit: One more thing... With movies like this, where they flee to the church because it's a sanctuary from evil, why don't they just make the whole town a holy place? You know, like Vatican City?
Just saw it this weekend. Pretty bad I must say. And yeah it's campy but I wouldn't say it's good camp. It's pretty stupid , doesn't really know what kind of movie it wants to be and as usual the characters really have no reason to be in love other than "They're in Love" crap.
But it's still not nearly as awful as Battle LA, which resembles something I expected out of Transformers 3. Most headache inducing movie I've seen in a long time.
But it's still not nearly as awful as Battle LA, which resembles something I expected out of Transformers 3. Most headache inducing movie I've seen in a long time.
Good job Bob! Not the moving I was hoping for, but by the end of the video I was glad you did this one. It sounded kind of apologetic in points, but I don't think there is any problem in calling a movie "best in class" instead of "Amazing on all points".
I was also hoping for Battle LA, but at this at least opened my eyes to a movie I hadn't considered.G1eet said:
That isn't what camp is.lowkey_jotunn said:
I'm quite saddened by the fact that people nowadays use the word camp to mean all sorts of things that it didn't originally have anything to do with.
Camp is not kitch.
Camp is not melodrama.
This film, seems to fall into the category of melodrama rather than camp. Stylized, concerned with emotions...but sincere. Not ironic or so bad it is good.
Camp is a survival strategy developed by gay men in the 1930s-1940s which is about using a certain kind of exaggerated vaguely effeminate humor, knowing artifice, and self-aware performance to deflect from danger. It is also about finding a way to locate oneself in media that has excluded you.
There is primary and secondary camp. Primary camp is when you are camping yourself on purpose. Standard examples would be a drag queen like RuPaul. A "realness queen" who is attempting to look as much like a woman as possible without irony or humor is not being campy.
Secondary camp is when you look into a work that exists and try to find moments you can queer to locate a space for yourself. Classic examples would be something like the film All About Eve. This isn't a bad film at all, as a matter of fact it was up for Oscars. But there is a sort of aesthetic that gay men could take on and read themselves into. A number of musicals also fall into this category--though others don't.
Camp is the product of gay male culture dealing with the closet and homophobia and danger. Then Susan Sontag had to come along in the 1960s and remove the politics and specificity of camp so she could have access to it. And now Movie Bob is calling what seems to be a standard sincere melodrama camp.
Sadness.
I doubt this review severely. That movie looks EXACTLY the same as Twilight. Movie Bob clearly just has a bias against the messages in Twilight, since he even called this "the Anti-Twilight."
I went to go see this movie today, largely due to comparisons to "Sleepy Hollow" I had been reading. It was okay, but nothing as good as "Sleepy hollow". It was far superior to Twilight, which I have tried to watch a couple of times when other people put it on, but really couldn't get into.
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure you could call this one a dedicated "chick flick". It had SOME of those elements, but no scenes of people sitting around talking about their feelings for long periods of time. As Bob pointed out, the whole romantic angle actually seemed tacked on at times. There is however a big part of this movie that DOES make this into a chick flick beyond a doubt, and really kind of bugged me:
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure you could call this one a dedicated "chick flick". It had SOME of those elements, but no scenes of people sitting around talking about their feelings for long periods of time. As Bob pointed out, the whole romantic angle actually seemed tacked on at times. There is however a big part of this movie that DOES make this into a chick flick beyond a doubt, and really kind of bugged me:
The movie has some rather dubious morality in it, which gets into the whole relational (female) thinking as opposed to rational (male) thinking, and the whole "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" thing.
By this, I don't mean the whole "Titanic" vibe of "cheating is okay if it's the woman and it's true love" or the whole "Abstinance" thing from the "Twilight Movies".
While it's a major spoiler of the whole plot (so stop now even if you opened this if you absolutly have to see this movie), "The Big Bad Wolf" is not really a bad guy. It's Red's father, he didn't kill anyone for a long time, but wound up losing his temper in wolf form when he discovered that Red's sister was not his child but that his wife cheated on him due to the girl not being able to converse with him when he was in his wolf form. Transformed werewolves having anger management issues, he accidently killed her. The rest of the violence perpetuated by the Wolf was him going after his cheating wife, and killing the guy who he cheated on him with. While by no means "good" you can see where he's coming from, and honestly I'm not even sure if by the morality of the time period this is set in this would even be illegal (which is another entire discussion). Before he got POed like most guys would have, to a wolfy extreme, he mostly just left people alone.... which is why the Wolf hadn't been seen for 20 or so years at the beginning of the movie.
At any rate "Were Daddy" is supposed to be bad, though no real threat to anyone, and having kept control for 20 years before some rather extreme situations. He has no desire to hurt his daughter or anything. However he HAS to die because he's a werewolf. Of course in the process of the final battle he bites Red's boyfriend, but it's okay for him to go off and be a Werewolf because it's you know... true luuuuuv. We have no evidence that this guy is going to be anywhere near as restrained, or what he might do under similarly shocking circumstances. But it's luuuuuuv.
Compounding the issue is of course that before finding out daddy was the werewolf (and under control) she was perfectly willing to stab the same guy when she thought he was the werewolf, but when he actually is the wolf, instead gets all mushy inside, cuz I guess it's sexxxy and she doesn't have anyone left.
Totally subjective, and nonsensical. Watch the movie and you'll see, of course I saved you the trouble if you didn't plan on it.
I suppose girls like that kind of thing, but me, I suspect studboy wood cutter turns the village into a buffet 5 seconds after the credits roll. I mean he didn't seem to be a paragon of self control.
... and "red", I mean geez, look at the look on her face when she gets around to actually killing that bunny. If she does live, she's probably like some early anscestor of Dexter or Hannibal Lector or something. She doesn't even have the excuse of being a werewolf despite the unactivated bloodline.
By this, I don't mean the whole "Titanic" vibe of "cheating is okay if it's the woman and it's true love" or the whole "Abstinance" thing from the "Twilight Movies".
While it's a major spoiler of the whole plot (so stop now even if you opened this if you absolutly have to see this movie), "The Big Bad Wolf" is not really a bad guy. It's Red's father, he didn't kill anyone for a long time, but wound up losing his temper in wolf form when he discovered that Red's sister was not his child but that his wife cheated on him due to the girl not being able to converse with him when he was in his wolf form. Transformed werewolves having anger management issues, he accidently killed her. The rest of the violence perpetuated by the Wolf was him going after his cheating wife, and killing the guy who he cheated on him with. While by no means "good" you can see where he's coming from, and honestly I'm not even sure if by the morality of the time period this is set in this would even be illegal (which is another entire discussion). Before he got POed like most guys would have, to a wolfy extreme, he mostly just left people alone.... which is why the Wolf hadn't been seen for 20 or so years at the beginning of the movie.
At any rate "Were Daddy" is supposed to be bad, though no real threat to anyone, and having kept control for 20 years before some rather extreme situations. He has no desire to hurt his daughter or anything. However he HAS to die because he's a werewolf. Of course in the process of the final battle he bites Red's boyfriend, but it's okay for him to go off and be a Werewolf because it's you know... true luuuuuv. We have no evidence that this guy is going to be anywhere near as restrained, or what he might do under similarly shocking circumstances. But it's luuuuuuv.
Compounding the issue is of course that before finding out daddy was the werewolf (and under control) she was perfectly willing to stab the same guy when she thought he was the werewolf, but when he actually is the wolf, instead gets all mushy inside, cuz I guess it's sexxxy and she doesn't have anyone left.
Totally subjective, and nonsensical. Watch the movie and you'll see, of course I saved you the trouble if you didn't plan on it.
I suppose girls like that kind of thing, but me, I suspect studboy wood cutter turns the village into a buffet 5 seconds after the credits roll. I mean he didn't seem to be a paragon of self control.
... and "red", I mean geez, look at the look on her face when she gets around to actually killing that bunny. If she does live, she's probably like some early anscestor of Dexter or Hannibal Lector or something. She doesn't even have the excuse of being a werewolf despite the unactivated bloodline.
Definitely my favorite "Escape" in a long time. I would have passed on this one, but now I'll definitely check it out on DVD...
