Escape to the Movies: The Purge

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Blunderboy said:
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Damn, I was hoping it would deal with the issues you listed Bob, but it just turns out it's another terrible slasher fic?


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Yup, like we don't have enough of this.
My other question is, if there is not going to be any repercussions for your crime why would you bother to wear a mask? Just to be 'spooky'? Sod that.
Everyday people doing horrible things is much scarier than that.
Well people are making a party out of it, aren't they? No different to Halloween.
 

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Blunderboy said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Damn, I was hoping it would deal with the issues you listed Bob, but it just turns out it's another terrible slasher fic?


Boo T^T
Yup, like we don't have enough of this.
My other question is, if there is not going to be any repercussions for your crime why would you bother to wear a mask? Just to be 'spooky'? Sod that.
Everyday people doing horrible things is much scarier than that.
That was my biggest concern about the movie honestly.

It seems to me the only reason they worse the masks is just to be scary and creepy, but it looks like it just fell flat. I miss good slasher movies. :(
 

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If the purge was to really happen I would expect less murdering and far more heinous unspeakable boning.
 

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I wonder if the Purge would have been better as a tv series in which all the episodes focus on the sane day but from the wealth of different premises possible with the idea of one law free day. In such a series I also think it would be good to show the days leading up to the purge, to see how people prepare (besides the obvious) and the days immediately following to see how people move on from this day each year.

Edit - I was thinking about Bob's comment regarding smaller stores and it made me think that in the world of this movie there might be am additional Black Friday style holiday. The less stock a store has on the day of the purge the less it has to defend and the less it stands to lose. So I can imagine stores, especially the smaller ones who can't afford the security would be inclined to offer discounts on their stock the day before the purge so that they can make some money off of the stock that they risk losing and losing money on if it remains in the store for the dreaded day. In my mind the store owners and customers would take to informally calling this day "Binge Day"

Such a rich premise, such a shame to hear that it wasn't mined properly.
I think it can go further than the binge day thing. People contemplating their morality, riots and revolutions going on, the change in sciencedue to the incusion of forbidden research. The purge is the type of change to society that can reveal so much about humanity and it's society but it was instead used as a cheap setup.

what a disappointment. Moviegoers are dumber in the waste of such potential.
 

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Reincarnatedwolfgod said:
I don't like Romney and I don't like obama either. now that I made my position clear I have one question. What exactly did mentioning romney do to help this review and what was the point?
Romney is known to be extremely supportive for less regulation and more power to corporations. He was making the point that the only way to make a movie with the villains as embodiments of predatory capitalism less subtle is to have one of them be Mitt Romney who has been accused of predatory capitalism with Bain capital and was believed to have encouraged it.
 

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When I first saw the trailer, I immediately grouped this movie in with the Schadenfreude wank material that is Hostel, Saw, Human Centipede, etc, just written by a Freshman philosophy major who thinks something like this is a grand idea.

I don't subscribe to the idea that we're all perverted demons on the inside, and the only thing keeping us from raping and eating each other is the belief that the man upstairs is watching. By the end of the trailer my eyes had rolled out of my head.

But I didn't stop to think that this movie could have been smart at one time, actually exploring themes of class and privilege instead of revelling in the angry adolescent fantasies we all grow out of, and I am rather disappointed now that it turned into "Taken" meets "The Strangers".

Not that I ever would have seen this anyway.
The movie looks terrible, no doubt, and the concept is utter trash (Battle Royale re-imagined by, as you said, a "Freshman philosophy major"), but I actually think they underestimate how bad people are. Yes, the majority of people are not evil, but what about people who can make bombs? What about nuclear devices? What about drug cartels? (Imagine how bad they'd be.) And what about hackers who could just take all the rich people's money, with no consequence? What about international consequences of actions? I really don't think this would benefit anyone, rich or poor.

This must be one of the most poorly thought-out movie concepts I've ever heard...
 

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Luckily I wasn't planning on seeing this one just on the fact that the premise seemed so utterly asinine as to strain credibility. Now that I've heard what you have to say it just seems more asinine. For one thing people hold grudges in real life. Why wouldn't there be a rash of revenge murders after the purge? Who came up with the notion that law enforcement was the only agent of consequence in human society? If you have a society where people will forgive you for hacking their sister to death the day after you did it why would you need the purge at all? They have obviously achieved sainthood already. If the purge disproportionally targets the poor that leads to another problem. Since the beginning of civilization there have always been more poor than rich. This would eventuate in a popular uprising if the poor become convinced that the rich are actually trying to kill them by... well... the rich trying to kill them. A thing like this would actually hasten a collapse rather than prevent it. It would seem that they got all caught up in their quirky premise that they forgot to think it all the way through.
 

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It sounds like this movie would have been significantly better if it had been made in, say, 1987, with a tighter budget, no name actors, and a stake in genuinely shocking the audience for the sake of making an impact. It sounds like what came out was an interesting premise that got dumbed down into high-concept by-the-numbers audience-pleaser that hit exactly the narrative and visceral points required but couldn't be bothered to paint outside the lines for fear of alienating 10% of the audience with something challenging.
 

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I thought the premise had promise for a decent story, so it sucks to hear that it's just a bad slasher film. Ugh.

Also, I love Lena Headley in Game of Thrones, and hoped that she would get a hit here. Looks like that isn't happening.
 

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Izanagi009 said:
Reincarnatedwolfgod said:
I don't like Romney and I don't like obama either. now that I made my position clear I have one question. What exactly did mentioning romney do to help this review and what was the point?
Romney is known to be extremely supportive for less regulation and more power to corporations. He was making the point that the only way to make a movie with the villains as embodiments of predatory capitalism less subtle is to have one of them be Mitt Romney who has been accused of predatory capitalism with Bain capital and was believed to have encouraged it.
To add to this a number of Romney's "behind the scenes" activities and discussions tended to be at best "those people? Yeah I heard of them. I don't think they should exist." there you can replace the italicized portion of that with any demographic that isn't "Caucasian wealthy white male". Given what Romney had done during his time in post secondary and got away with the main villain could essentially be Romney if he was 40 years younger and could get away with anything.
 

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Yojoo said:
Also, I love Lena Headley in Game of Thrones, and hoped that she would get a hit here. Looks like that isn't happening.
That's HEADY!!! (Blazing Saddles lol)

OT: I just knew this movie would be stupid based on the premise alone, and I'm getting bored with the "RICH PEOPLE BAD GRRR ARGH" Anvil hitting me in the face all the time. Now applying my low opinion of human nature, I think if 12 hours had no laws at all, then society would completely collapse and never recover. Just when I though the Hunger Games had a nonsensical and retarded premise (and that's still true. Come on, Bob, I can taste your hatred for the upcoming Catching Fire flick from here, and I can't wait for you to trash it!).
But perhaps with the reviews for The Purge and The Internship today, he's getting the negativity out now for next week's Man of Steel.
 

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Izanagi009 said:
Vault Citizen said:
I wonder if the Purge would have been better as a tv series in which all the episodes focus on the sane day but from the wealth of different premises possible with the idea of one law free day. In such a series I also think it would be good to show the days leading up to the purge, to see how people prepare (besides the obvious) and the days immediately following to see how people move on from this day each year.

Edit - I was thinking about Bob's comment regarding smaller stores and it made me think that in the world of this movie there might be am additional Black Friday style holiday. The less stock a store has on the day of the purge the less it has to defend and the less it stands to lose. So I can imagine stores, especially the smaller ones who can't afford the security would be inclined to offer discounts on their stock the day before the purge so that they can make some money off of the stock that they risk losing and losing money on if it remains in the store for the dreaded day. In my mind the store owners and customers would take to informally calling this day "Binge Day"

Such a rich premise, such a shame to hear that it wasn't mined properly.
I think it can go further than the binge day thing. People contemplating their morality, riots and revolutions going on, the change in sciencedue to the incusion of forbidden research. The purge is the type of change to society that can reveal so much about humanity and it's society but it was instead used as a cheap setup.

what a disappointment. Moviegoers are dumber in the waste of such potential.
Oh I have no doubt that it could go further than binge day.

Now, how many bad sequels do you think they will try to make?
 

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The premise held a lot of good storytelling ideas, but in and of itself I see it as absolute rubbish. Bullshit, bollocks and balderdash.
This will fix crime, squalor and unemployment just how, exactly? By letting people have a chance to "blow off some steam"? By having armed gangs running around pillaging, raping and murdering their way through the streets? That has always led to a surge of economic growth.
For the other part, leave the pondering over the alledged frailty of the order of civilization to the Lord of the Flies. It is better written.
 

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Fiz_The_Toaster said:
Blunderboy said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Damn, I was hoping it would deal with the issues you listed Bob, but it just turns out it's another terrible slasher fic?


Boo T^T
Yup, like we don't have enough of this.
My other question is, if there is not going to be any repercussions for your crime why would you bother to wear a mask? Just to be 'spooky'? Sod that.
Everyday people doing horrible things is much scarier than that.
That was my biggest concern about the movie honestly.

It seems to me the only reason they worse the masks is just to be scary and creepy, but it looks like it just fell flat. I miss good slasher movies. :(
Yojoo said:
I thought the premise had promise for a decent story, so it sucks to hear that it's just a bad slasher film. Ugh.

Also, I love Lena Headley in Game of Thrones, and hoped that she would get a hit here. Looks like that isn't happening.
Yeah. I'm not really a huge fan of slasher films. I'm something of a coward about them. But I do still watch them now and then.
 

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I want to say I totally called it, but the more I think about it, I really didn't. See, I just expect every movie to fail, so when I get it right, I'm not so much calling it, as being the broken clock that's right twice a day.

Except, I wish I was only right twice out of the many possible combinations in which a clock could be wrong. Then maybe I wouldn't hate movies so much.
 

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RJ Dalton said:
I want to say I totally called it, but the more I think about it, I really didn't. See, I just expect every movie to fail, so when I get it right, I'm not so much calling it, as being the broken clock that's right twice a day.

Except, I wish I was only right twice out of the many possible combinations in which a clock could be wrong. Then maybe I wouldn't hate movies so much.
Its a sad state of affairs that I can't even fault you for being that pessimistic really. Still, I think you're the only person I've seen this year who isn't hype for Pacific Rim
 

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Imagine a TV series with the same premise, but just showing the bfore AND after of the purge. It's sort of a mystery why are people doing this, preparing so heavily to just other normal people that would go boinkers in a lawless society, and then the aftermath of all that with people going on with their days like it's nothing, with a creepy undertone of "just yesterday ya'll fuckers wanted to kill me".

And the final chapter is the day of the purge, when all goes down and crazy stuff happens. Stealing, rioting, hacking, financial fraud, maybe even a fucking foreign invasion!


Now that would be awesome.
 

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Sean Kay said:
Its a sad state of affairs that I can't even fault you for being that pessimistic really. Still, I think you're the only person I've seen this year who isn't hype for Pacific Rim
Is that the one about the giant robots fighting monsters from under the sea? The one that looks like Evangelion, but with a burly, hard-boiled soldier for a protagonist instead of a wanker kid? Yeah, that's what I want to see, a live-action anime in which one set of cliche characters are replaced with a completely different set of cliche characters.