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[Asclepion]

In my defense, I blame miscommunication for introducing said assassin this early. I interpreted Asclepion's posts in a way that led me to believe that SEELE would be gunning for my ass without hesitation ("You really have a death wish", "If not, he will join the conversation and then probably be shot later that night."); my mistake, evidently.

Sorry about that; I'll make sure to run stuff like this by everyone else in the future.

If not, he will join in the conversation and then probably be shot later that night. According to Hiei82, this is not what happened- he wrote that the monoliths were already gone by the time Ashford opened the door. Even in the show, Seele was being spied on and not responding instantly.

It really is a minor point though. And now an Angel (or rather, the response to one) actually saved your life. You brought the sniper character in, so you have control of the guy. He's heading to the roof, possibly to have a shootout with cops before an Evangelion picks him up, surges the A.T. Field around her arm and throws the assassin to the moon.
XD

 

[TheNaut131]

Welp, I finally got to extend on Alexander's A.T. manipulation.

Yep...

 

[Viking Incognito]

I'm just quoting you to get your attention.

I just re-read the character sheets and after seeing the bit about "a fan of shock and awe" I realize, when we aren't all in danger of dying, she will go crazy for the "Artificial Meteor" stunt.

Also

Again, I'm just quoting to get your attention.

2 quick things

1. Aiber doesn't know it is Pollux under the angel because even though they met after his dad showed up, Aiber doesn't know which Eva is Pollux's

2. ....um, darn I forgot what the second thing was, but something I just now thought of is how our characters might form a friendly rivalry as two A.T. specialists and since Aiber is trying to save his life (not sure how that will turn out yet.

 

[TheNaut131]

Again, I'm just quoting to get your attention.

2 quick things

1. Aiber doesn't know it is Pollux under the angel because even though they met after his dad showed up, Aiber doesn't know which Eva is Pollux's

2. ....um, darn I forgot what the second thing was, but something I just now thought of is how our characters might form a friendly rivalry as two A.T. specialists and since Aiber is trying to save his life (not sure how that will turn out yet.

I was thinking about number 2 as well. Working on it my good sir, working on it.

 

[Asclepion]

Couldn't get to writing yet D:
In the meantime, I found this on /tg/:

http://horobox.co.uk/u/ShepherdsPie_1324039712.swf

 

[Mr.Ivebeenframed]

Couldn't get to writing yet D:
In the meantime, I found this on /tg/:

http://horobox.co.uk/u/ShepherdsPie_1324039712.swf

OOOOOHHHH YYYEEEAAAHHHH

 

[TheNaut131]

Couldn't get to writing yet D:
In the meantime, I found this on /tg/:

http://horobox.co.uk/u/ShepherdsPie_1324039712.swf

OOOOOHHHH YYYEEEAAAHHHH

Fan-fucking-tastic!

 

[TheNaut131]

Spoiler

Wish it had a few more cosmetic options but whatever.

 

[Asclepion]

Spoiler

Screwing around with color schemes. I always liked the dark body-white head look.

 

[Viking Incognito]

I feel like there is not mutch more I can contribute right now other than shooting the piss out of the Angel with the Positron Mk II and that's boring and way to short of a post. *pout face*

 

[CJ1145]

Spoiler

Not bad, though I wish there were more cosmetic options. Bigger chin, slightly smaller shoulders, bigger legs, etc.

Also I'll be attending Ohayocon this weekend so I won't be posting much, if at all, these next few days.

 

[Asclepion]

Also I'll be attending Ohayocon this weekend so I won't be posting much, if at all, these next few days.

Have fun.

I want to ask you guys something. I'm being PMed by people wanting to join. There are pilots who just started as well as those who've been here since the beginning. Kemuel, Malakiel, Sametos, and Ohotorael have been repelled. Several pilots are planning a small-scale revolt against Nerv. There are a few options now: Wanting to make as many people happy as possible, I though I would leave the decision to the players.

Option A: I allow more people to join, add more Angels (probably 2 or 3), lengthen the plot slightly and give new pilots a larger role.

Option B: Plot moves as normal, building to it's conclusion. The game has it's climax, resolution, and ending.

A while later, I'll put up a sequel game, either still in Africa or some other part of the world. The players who submitted sheets late in this one automatically get in, and it's open to the rest of the forum. If you wanted to play again and had a character during this game, you would have the option to do so. Any Angels that would be added are instead saved for that game.

I'm open to any comment or suggestion.

 

[TheNaut131]

Alrighty then. Lets see now... Okay, I have a suggestion.

Us, the original pilots and players, could finish our own story and let the new guys have a go at their own. Us, the original players, could act as NERV personnel (scientist, soldiers, etc) in the sequel, since we could use a few more characters like that.

Maybe later on in the story, or perhaps directly, some of our original characters could drop in and assist here and there, perhaps a few references to the original thread as well, ( parts of news reports) etc.

Oh, and if you do pick a new location, England. It's where Zapper's character came from and why not?

Another part of me wants a direct transition, simply moving our characters to a new location, but if we added in other new pilots things might get a bit messy. If have too many eva pilots, things could fall into a bigger messy glop of exposition than they already are. (I'm really guilty with that at times)

 

[Viking Incognito]

Also I'll be attending Ohayocon this weekend so I won't be posting much, if at all, these next few days.

Have fun.

I want to ask you guys something. I'm being PMed by people wanting to join. There are pilots who just started as well as those who've been here since the beginning. Kemuel, Malakiel, Sametos, and Ohotorael have been repelled. Several pilots are planning a small-scale revolt against Nerv. There are a few options now: Wanting to make as many people happy as possible, I though I would leave the decision to the players.

Option A: I allow more people to join, add more Angels (probably 2 or 3), lengthen the plot slightly and give new pilots a larger role.

Option B: Plot moves as normal, building to it's conclusion. The game has it's climax, resolution, and ending.

A while later, I'll put up a sequel game, either still in Africa or some other part of the world. The players who submitted sheets late in this one automatically get in, and it's open to the rest of the forum. If you wanted to play again and had a character during this game, you would have the option to do so. Any Angels that would be added are instead saved for that game.

I'm open to any comment or suggestion.

I feel like finishing this and moving to Africa would be great provided I could keep using Aiber and Charlie. Plus, I feel like there is a lot I could do with them that would benefit from being able to start from the begining of a new story.

 

[Viking Incognito]

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I'm quoting both of you because I figure that you (hiei82) wouldn't do the "reletivity two week time skip" thing without prompting/permission from the GM (Asclep).

What I want to say is this: I'm not asking you to undo the decision or anything, I just want you to know my (and by extension Aiber's) opinion. The idea that a Black Hole/Singularity/whatever can change the flow of time is bullshit. Time is an illision, it is just how we identify the continued existence and performance of action of atoms and groups of atoms (simple version: "Time" is just what we call "stuff happening"). The concept of time is entirely in our heads (thus, an illusion) and a physical force like gravity couldn't possible change something that doesn't actually exist. I would have no problem if you ment it seemed to everyone like it took 2 weeks, but you made it seem like we had actually just skipped 24 rotations of the earth. Gravity cna slow things down to the point that it changes the way we perceive time, but even then, it is just affecting our speed. And even for it to do that The force of gravity it would be creating would literally vaporize the entire city and everything in it. So... If I can stop it from sucking us in and giving us the gravity crunch, then how could the perception altering effects of the gravity still "change time"?

*gasps for air* Okay, so sorry for dumping all that unpleasant nerd juice in your eyes, but I just wanted you to know that even as far as scifi-soft-science, you might as well have said "and the angel threw them all in a dalorean set for two weeks in the future.".

 

[Asclepion]

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I'm quoting both of you because I figure that you (hiei82) wouldn't do the "reletivity two week time skip" thing without prompting/permission from the GM (Asclep).

What I want to say is this: I'm not asking you to undo the decision or anything, I just want you to know my (and by extension Aiber's) opinion. The idea that a Black Hole/Singularity/whatever can change the flow of time is bullshit. Time is an illision, it is just how we identify the continued existence and performance of action of atoms and groups of atoms (simple version: "Time" is just what we call "stuff happening"). The concept of time is entirely in our heads (thus, an illusion) and a physical force like gravity couldn't possible change something that doesn't actually exist. I would have no problem if you ment it seemed to everyone like it took 2 weeks, but you made it seem like we had actually just skipped 24 rotations of the earth. Gravity cna slow things down to the point that it changes the way we perceive time, but even then, it is just affecting our speed. And even for it to do that The force of gravity it would be creating would literally vaporize the entire city and everything in it. So... If I can stop it from sucking us in and giving us the gravity crunch, then how could the perception altering effects of the gravity still "change time"?

*gasps for air* Okay, so sorry for dumping all that unpleasant nerd juice in your eyes, but I just wanted you to know that even as far as scifi-soft-science, you might as well have said "and the angel threw them all in a dalorean set for two weeks in the future.".

Holy crap you guys are on this. I didn't even consider time dilation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

Viking Incognito: You at least see the logic of his post? If time is an illusion, then it is an illusion that can be measured. Einstein proved that time and space are the same thing, and something that affects one also affects the other. This is a bigger concept than I could explain here, so here's a far smarter man than I who talks about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghHtsy7mta8

Think of the three physical dimensions of your body as a point. Then, think of yourself in the future in a different position. Another point. And the line between them would be the fourth dimension of time. For a being that perceived time above four dimensions, that's what a human would look like- a long, amorphous thread; birth, life and death all laid out in the one space. Theoretical physics says that we have the perception of free will because there's not just one single timeline, but branching out into the Fifth dimension. Everything that's ever going to happen has already happened, every possibility exists as fact, as completed events, and how we act places us on these branching possibilities. Wrap your head around that 0_o .

As for whether I allow it? I like how it makes the Angel seem unearthly, but honestly I think a force of gravity large enough to cause noticeable time dilation would rip the fuck out of the continent. Even the gravity of Earth causes time to dilate only by millionths of a second. So no, not to that level. I applaud the idea, though.

 

[Viking Incognito]

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I'm quoting both of you because I figure that you (hiei82) wouldn't do the "reletivity two week time skip" thing without prompting/permission from the GM (Asclep).

What I want to say is this: I'm not asking you to undo the decision or anything, I just want you to know my (and by extension Aiber's) opinion. The idea that a Black Hole/Singularity/whatever can change the flow of time is bullshit. Time is an illision, it is just how we identify the continued existence and performance of action of atoms and groups of atoms (simple version: "Time" is just what we call "stuff happening"). The concept of time is entirely in our heads (thus, an illusion) and a physical force like gravity couldn't possible change something that doesn't actually exist. I would have no problem if you ment it seemed to everyone like it took 2 weeks, but you made it seem like we had actually just skipped 24 rotations of the earth. Gravity cna slow things down to the point that it changes the way we perceive time, but even then, it is just affecting our speed. And even for it to do that The force of gravity it would be creating would literally vaporize the entire city and everything in it. So... If I can stop it from sucking us in and giving us the gravity crunch, then how could the perception altering effects of the gravity still "change time"?

*gasps for air* Okay, so sorry for dumping all that unpleasant nerd juice in your eyes, but I just wanted you to know that even as far as scifi-soft-science, you might as well have said "and the angel threw them all in a dalorean set for two weeks in the future.".

Holy crap you guys are on this. I didn't even consider time dilation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

Viking Incognito: You at least see the logic of his post? If time is an illusion, then it is an illusion that can be measured. Einstein proved that time and space are the same thing, and something that affects one also affects the other. This is a bigger concept than I could explain here, so here's a far smarter man than I who talks about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghHtsy7mta8

Think of the three physical dimensions of your body as a point. Then, think of yourself in the future in a different position. Another point. And the line between them would be the fourth dimension of time. For a being that perceived time above four dimensions, that's what a human would look like- a long, amorphous thread; birth, life and death all laid out in the one space. Theoretical physics says that we have the perception of free will because there's not just one single timeline, but branching out into the Fifth dimension. Everything that's ever going to happen has already happened, every possibility exists as fact, as completed events, and how we act places us on these branching possibilities. Wrap your head around that 0_o .

As for whether I allow it? I like how it makes the Angel seem unearthly, but honestly I think a force of gravity large enough to cause noticeable time dilation would rip the fuck out of the continent. Even the gravity of Earth causes time to dilate only by millionths of a second. So no, not to that level. I applaud the idea, though.

That was a very well thought out rebuttal. At the risk of sounding like a pretentious knob, I enjoyed this exchange. But anyway, I'm kinda confused. Are you saying youe aren't allowing the time skip?

 

[hiei82]

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I'm quoting both of you because I figure that you (hiei82) wouldn't do the "reletivity two week time skip" thing without prompting/permission from the GM (Asclep).

What I want to say is this: I'm not asking you to undo the decision or anything, I just want you to know my (and by extension Aiber's) opinion. The idea that a Black Hole/Singularity/whatever can change the flow of time is bullshit. Time is an illision, it is just how we identify the continued existence and performance of action of atoms and groups of atoms (simple version: "Time" is just what we call "stuff happening"). The concept of time is entirely in our heads (thus, an illusion) and a physical force like gravity couldn't possible change something that doesn't actually exist. I would have no problem if you ment it seemed to everyone like it took 2 weeks, but you made it seem like we had actually just skipped 24 rotations of the earth. Gravity cna slow things down to the point that it changes the way we perceive time, but even then, it is just affecting our speed. And even for it to do that The force of gravity it would be creating would literally vaporize the entire city and everything in it. So... If I can stop it from sucking us in and giving us the gravity crunch, then how could the perception altering effects of the gravity still "change time"?

*gasps for air* Okay, so sorry for dumping all that unpleasant nerd juice in your eyes, but I just wanted you to know that even as far as scifi-soft-science, you might as well have said "and the angel threw them all in a dalorean set for two weeks in the future.".

Holy crap you guys are on this. I didn't even consider time dilation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

Viking Incognito: You at least see the logic of his post? If time is an illusion, then it is an illusion that can be measured. Einstein proved that time and space are the same thing, and something that affects one also affects the other. This is a bigger concept than I could explain here, so here's a far smarter man than I who talks about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghHtsy7mta8

Think of the three physical dimensions of your body as a point. Then, think of yourself in the future in a different position. Another point. And the line between them would be the fourth dimension of time. For a being that perceived time above four dimensions, that's what a human would look like- a long, amorphous thread; birth, life and death all laid out in the one space. Theoretical physics says that we have the perception of free will because there's not just one single timeline, but branching out into the Fifth dimension. Everything that's ever going to happen has already happened, every possibility exists as fact, as completed events, and how we act places us on these branching possibilities. Wrap your head around that 0_o .

As for whether I allow it? I like how it makes the Angel seem unearthly, but honestly I think a force of gravity large enough to cause noticeable time dilation would rip the fuck out of the continent. Even the gravity of Earth causes time to dilate only by millionths of a second. So no, not to that level. I applaud the idea, though.

Wow lots of things have happened since my lunch post.

Frankly, I was going with time dilation because it is both dramatic and arguable considering modern understanding of science.

I fall into the time is just another dimension like height, width, and depth crowd: if only because time dilation is measurable and, as an engineering student, I like "measurable and provable" over "cannot trust our own senses". If time dilation is good enough for Einstein and General Relativity (the rate of time is slower near an object of greater gravity) is required for GPS to work; I believe in it. As for the "everything is predestined" bit involving the fifth dimension; Heisenberg proved something like free will exists so I don't even pretend to grasp the minutia in that discussion

As for permission - never did ask did I (sorry). I just ran with the idea because it was the first thing that popped in my head and it created additional tension (the writer in me loves the drama). I will edit it away given the negative feedback, though I'm keeping the bit about clocks being off; I like the line too much to sacrifice it.

Side Note: Are we really arguing real science in a game with giant robots cloned from Pseudo-divine beings that create energy fields that defy physics? (not to mention the Progressive chain-saw sword) I think there's a joke about cat-girls exploding in here somewhere but I'm too lazy to come up with it.

 

[hiei82]

Also I'll be attending Ohayocon this weekend so I won't be posting much, if at all, these next few days.

Have fun.

I want to ask you guys something. I'm being PMed by people wanting to join. There are pilots who just started as well as those who've been here since the beginning. Kemuel, Malakiel, Sametos, and Ohotorael have been repelled. Several pilots are planning a small-scale revolt against Nerv. There are a few options now: Wanting to make as many people happy as possible, I though I would leave the decision to the players.

Option A: I allow more people to join, add more Angels (probably 2 or 3), lengthen the plot slightly and give new pilots a larger role.

Option B: Plot moves as normal, building to it's conclusion. The game has it's climax, resolution, and ending.

A while later, I'll put up a sequel game, either still in Africa or some other part of the world. The players who submitted sheets late in this one automatically get in, and it's open to the rest of the forum. If you wanted to play again and had a character during this game, you would have the option to do so. Any Angels that would be added are instead saved for that game.

I'm open to any comment or suggestion.

I'm open to either, though I will say that it is rather difficult to keep up with everything that is happening right now. I've been trying to give a chance for each of the other characters to get a badass moment but as more and more pilots join, that is proving difficult (I did not expect my little side project to be used quite so... destructively. I was wracking my head for ways to give Zapper's character a chance to shine in that last fight but Viking's character killed the angel before I could do it (he will be missed)

As a result, a sequel would probably be the better idea. Either way, I'm basically ready to do my end game anytime so whatever you want to do, I'm up for it.

 

[Asclepion]

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I'm quoting both of you because I figure that you (hiei82) wouldn't do the "reletivity two week time skip" thing without prompting/permission from the GM (Asclep).

What I want to say is this: I'm not asking you to undo the decision or anything, I just want you to know my (and by extension Aiber's) opinion. The idea that a Black Hole/Singularity/whatever can change the flow of time is bullshit. Time is an illision, it is just how we identify the continued existence and performance of action of atoms and groups of atoms (simple version: "Time" is just what we call "stuff happening"). The concept of time is entirely in our heads (thus, an illusion) and a physical force like gravity couldn't possible change something that doesn't actually exist. I would have no problem if you ment it seemed to everyone like it took 2 weeks, but you made it seem like we had actually just skipped 24 rotations of the earth. Gravity cna slow things down to the point that it changes the way we perceive time, but even then, it is just affecting our speed. And even for it to do that The force of gravity it would be creating would literally vaporize the entire city and everything in it. So... If I can stop it from sucking us in and giving us the gravity crunch, then how could the perception altering effects of the gravity still "change time"?

*gasps for air* Okay, so sorry for dumping all that unpleasant nerd juice in your eyes, but I just wanted you to know that even as far as scifi-soft-science, you might as well have said "and the angel threw them all in a dalorean set for two weeks in the future.".

Holy crap you guys are on this. I didn't even consider time dilation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

Viking Incognito: You at least see the logic of his post? If time is an illusion, then it is an illusion that can be measured. Einstein proved that time and space are the same thing, and something that affects one also affects the other. This is a bigger concept than I could explain here, so here's a far smarter man than I who talks about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghHtsy7mta8

Think of the three physical dimensions of your body as a point. Then, think of yourself in the future in a different position. Another point. And the line between them would be the fourth dimension of time. For a being that perceived time above four dimensions, that's what a human would look like- a long, amorphous thread; birth, life and death all laid out in the one space. Theoretical physics says that we have the perception of free will because there's not just one single timeline, but branching out into the Fifth dimension. Everything that's ever going to happen has already happened, every possibility exists as fact, as completed events, and how we act places us on these branching possibilities. Wrap your head around that 0_o .

As for whether I allow it? I like how it makes the Angel seem unearthly, but honestly I think a force of gravity large enough to cause noticeable time dilation would rip the fuck out of the continent. Even the gravity of Earth causes time to dilate only by millionths of a second. So no, not to that level. I applaud the idea, though.

Wow lots of things have happened since my lunch post.

Frankly, I was going with time dilation because it is both dramatic and arguable considering modern understanding of science.

I fall into the time is just another dimension like height, width, and depth crowd: if only because time dilation is measurable and, as an engineering student, I like "measurable and provable" over "cannot trust our own senses". If time dilation is good enough for Einstein and General Relativity (the rate of time is slower near an object of greater gravity) is required for GPS to work; I believe in it. As for the "everything is predestined" bit involving the fifth dimension; Heisenberg proved something like free will exists so I don't even pretend to grasp the minutia in that discussion

As for permission - never did ask did I (sorry). I just ran with the idea because it was the first thing that popped in my head and it created additional tension (the writer in me loves the drama). I will edit it away given the negative feedback, though I'm keeping the bit about clocks being off; I like the line too much to sacrifice it.

Side Note: Are we really arguing real science in a game with giant robots cloned from Pseudo-divine beings that create energy fields that defy physics? (not to mention the Progressive chain-saw sword) I think there's a joke about cat-girls exploding in here somewhere but I'm too lazy to come up with it.

My objection was this- The gravitational singularity was up for, what- maybe fifteen seconds? And it dilated time by two weeks? I couldn't even begin to calculate the forces involved, whether it destroys the solar system, Earth, or just the western half of Africa. But if "wiping out the country" isn't a good enough analogy, it's a lot more than what you could fucking survive.

So just tone it down- a few hours, a day, etc. It was an interesting direction. I hate saying 'no' to people when they've put effort into creating something. I just want it to stay coherent and- even if it's fiction- not be overwhelmed by internal inconsistencies. Okay?