Fake Boobs: Victim of bad PR?

[Ragsnstitches]

I think the problem here, for me, isn't the fact that people want plastic surgery, but the reasons for making them want it.

There are such a huge variety of body types that I find appealing, but (forgive me for this slippery slope fallacy) if things keep trending towards cosmetic augments we will start to see narrower and narrower physical varieties.

Why would a girl with a C-cup want to upgrade to a D? Because at some point something triggers her to think that her body is lacking. Why are men generally fixated on huge firm breasts? I know a dozen lads who just turn there nose up on a natural D cup because of "sagging" (seriously, fuck that pencil under the boob test... that pretty much cuts off any natural C-cup and up).

The issue I have with plastic surgery isn't that its used... but that people feel they NEED it. There are some seriously fucked up standards out there and they influence a lot of these self-concious individuals. The only genuine reason to get surgery is to fix a problem. Realistically we would be seeing more women downsizing due to the VERY COMMON back problems that come with sporting a large pair. But young impressionable girls are bombarded by imagery of large breasted babes as being some sort of pinnacle of the female figure.

That's utter rubbish ladies. There are few things that a good diet and healthy doses of physical activity can't make work. For the unfortunate few who are screwed over by a crappy gene combination (have your dads face and your mothers clubbed foot or whatever) or disfigurement, surgery is there as a viable option for you.

But I think people should be supported by encouraging folks to appreciate their unique physiques. Changing how you look won't improve your confidence in the long run (low confidence is a mental issue, not a physical one). You need to work at that part of your personality that devalues yourself and learn to shut out the voices of disillusioned individuals. Only then will changing yourself actually make a difference.

Self Esteem issues should be addressed first and foremost. Changing your body doesn't fix any damage caused by low self esteem and doesn't change your view of yourself.

Other then that, people can do what they want with their bodies. Just never do something superficial to address something as deep rooted as confidence problems.

 

[RobfromtheGulag]

I think there's a bit of doublethink going on here.

On the one hand, boob jobs are icky, women should be natural. On the other hand, women should fit an arbitrary beauty standard, and women who don't are icky. And the beauty standard often requires being unnatural.

This is the fairly evident catch-22 facing women. We want them to conform to a standard of beauty, but we want them to do it naturally.

There's this fantastic creature in the mind's eye that has no body hair, never flatulates, smells of roses (breath smells of mint), is buxom but thin, always demure, etc. etc. etc.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

I just personally don't like them. They look stupid and are ultimately utterly fucking pointless. Their are men that will like a girl with small breasts. I equate "needing" breast implants to needing to be more titillating.

That's assuming women who get boob jobs are doing it to attract more men, chances are they're doing it because they don't like how they look already. I get a haircut every now and then because I don't like how it looks, plenty of people tell me not but I do anyway because I don't like it; it's the exact same for boob jobs.

It's not vanity, it's an issue with self image. If people don't like how they look, regardless of what others say, they're going to want to change it. I know a girl who wants a boob job and she has a great set, plenty of lads have told her she doesn't need it at all but she still wants it. It's not vain to want to like how you look in the slightest.

 

[The Almighty Aardvark]

I'm not fond of them, or most of the reasons people get them, but it's their choice and I'm not going to try to stop them. It generally implies a degree of importance that the person places on their appearance considering they're willing to spend that much money on changing it. I'm not going to say that it's wrong to have that importance, but it isn't a quality I like in people. This doesn't just have to do with boob jobs, spending an hour on make up every morning, working out just to have a six pack and other things like that don't really sit well with me either. The person could be great despite that but it does leave a negative impression of them on me.

 

[MorganL4]

The difference in a tattoo and a breast implant is that a tattoo is ( in most cases) largely an expression of a particular part of the owners personality, there is individuality.

However, breast implants are bigger boobs for the sake of bigger boobs, it doesn't tell you anything about the individual except that they were not happy with their bust size.

The only exception to this, as was mentioned in the OP is in the case of reconstructive surgery (IE breast cancer, car wreck etc...)

 

[Nimzabaat]

OP Should move to North America. People love fake boobs here. Though I do understand that in the United Kingdom there's much less love for the silicones.

 

[Tiger King]

if I was single and met a girl I liked as a person with fake boobies, I wouldn't care. yeah I'd probably spot them (boobs aren't that round) but its who they are that counts.
if my misses came out and said I want breast implants I would dissuade her but understand why. girls wanting breast implants is like men wanting to be buff.

saying that I know a friend of a friend (sorry for the newspaper style source) that got chest implants to look ripped. (the guy is gay if it holds any bearing to this thread)

I think the thing to remember is the women or men that get plastic surgery to "pull" and are thought of as insecure/alpha people would most likely be seen that way without implants.

 

[Jenvas1306]

having your nose changed when its to big is something permanent and a one time thing (except for M.jackson syndrome...), but breast implants need to be renewed after ten years. its not just asthetic... it also forces you to have surgery later on again.
but i understand very well the reasons, i also feel sometimes that my B-cups(EUu so american A...) are too small, but implants are very creepy to me, so the only thing i would even consider would be usage of my own fat, if i had more of it and if that procedure was more a normal thing.

well, as a woman, i can tell you get piled with breasts, they are everywhere, most of them photoshoped, if you are at european average you feel like thats not enough. they are pretty much allways visible, so all that induces a lot of pressure. not to forget how some men react just to big breasts...

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

Everyone gets all judgy over fake boobs, I couldn't care less.
I mean, I've heard bad things about the surgery, and that the sensitivity kinda goes away (and one woman who lost her nipple from the surgery, ewww!).
But loads of things carry risk and who am I to judge.

I mean, you usually can tell fake from real, but if someone wants to do it, why should anyone give a damn?

See that, right there people?

Yeah.

If it does not affect your life, in any way, shape or form, what should you care? Women get them for a myriad of reasons - all of which do not affect my way of living whatsoever.

In general, I think tits are great.

The only problem I have is when someone's riding in a vehicle with them hanging out of the window. If there's even the slightest hint of fear that those things might clothesline someone else's head off going at, roughly, 30 miles an hour or faster, then PLEASE keep them inside the vehicle.

That's all.

*proofreads post*

Hmm, "tits are great". Makes for a good life statement.

Captcha: It's Super Delicious

Get your head outta my gutter, Captcha. It's already crowded enough in there.

 

[MorganL4]

if I was single and met a girl I liked as a person with fake boobies, I wouldn't care. yeah I'd probably spot them (boobs aren't that round) but its who they are that counts.
if my misses came out and said I want breast implants I would dissuade her but understand why. girls wanting breast implants is like men wanting to be buff.

saying that I know a friend of a friend (sorry for the newspaper style source) that got chest implants to look ripped. (the guy is gay if it holds any bearing to this thread)

I think the thing to remember is the women or men that get plastic surgery to "pull" and are thought of as insecure/alpha people would most likely be seen that way without implants.

Your friend did realize that he could just work out right?

I mean it is cheaper, safer, and healthier.....

Women can't change their bust size through exercise but a mans pecks change based on use.

 

[Zen Bard]

You had me at "Boobs"!

I think bad press on fake boobs comes from the negative stereotype we have of physically attractive people. There's a tendency to think they coast through life on their looks, so they really have no need or want to develop any "deeper" aspects of their personality.

Hence, we tend to see them as shallow and superficial and regard them with appropriate disdain.

So given this, when a woman decides to become a Barbie Girl, it's easy assume she's doing so because she has nothing else going for her. And in many cases, that's a safe assumption. After all, she could just as easily spend that money on some form of lasting self improvement like college credits or a welding course.

About half the women I know have had boob jobs. And an overwhelming majority of them did it to boost their self esteem. They were pretty before...they're pretty still. But they feel more confident and empowered now. So hey! Whatever works for you.


But let me pose a counter question:
I've read several posters say how much they dislike body modification.

But what if the modification could be achieved without surgery? What if it were possible to have a treatment that altered your physical appearance on the genetic level?

So, for example, woman goes in, gets a shot and is now genetically modified to have a perfect C-Cup.

It's still body modding...or is it?

 

[Realitycrash]

Here's an ample comparison: Tattoos

Nope. Tattoos don't replace parts of your body. Not a valid comparison.

Implants doesn't replace a part of your body either (unless you have had to remove your breast due to cancer), but enhances, so the comparison stands.
And even IF they completely replaced, why would it matter? What matters is that you do things to make yourself more beautiful, not how you do it. Show me why it would be ethically relevant if it in fact replaced parts of your body, compared to anything else that enhances.

 

[Dogstile]

I have a friend who has them, she went around and showed everyone them after. They certainly looked real and her self esteem has quite obviously gone through the roof. That said, knowing they're fake kinda ruins it for me. I don't know why, maybe its just the way I was brought up.

 

[Realitycrash]

You had me at "Boobs"!

I think bad press on fake boobs comes from the negative stereotype we have of physically attractive people. There's a tendency to think they coast through life on their looks, so they really have no need or want to develop any "deeper" aspects of their personality.

Hence, we tend to see them as shallow and superficial and regard them with appropriate disdain.

So given this, when a woman decides to become a Barbie Girl, it's easy assume she's doing so because she has nothing else going for her. And in many cases, that's a safe assumption. After all, she could just as easily spend that money on some form of lasting self improvement like college credits or a welding course.

About half the women I know have had boob jobs. And an overwhelming majority of them did it to boost their self esteem. They were pretty before...they're pretty still. But they feel more confident and empowered now. So hey! Whatever works for you.


But let me pose a counter question:
I've read several posters say how much they dislike body modification.

But what if the modification could be achieved without surgery? What if it were possible to have a treatment that altered your physical appearance on the genetic level?

So, for example, woman goes in, gets a shot and is now genetically modified to have a perfect C-Cup.

It's still body modding...or is it?

It's still body-mod, and I wouldn't be against it. However, there's a line, that when crossed, it seems to blur between what is authentically "you" and what is just "you, but better".
Imagine you could take said shot, and come out looking like someone else. Like Tom Cruise or Pamela Anderson. At this stage, you must have a morbidly heavy self-loathing to go along with it, and I'd recommend counseling.

 

[blackrave]

I personally dislike implants
They are acceptable if there is need to restore breast(s), but otherwise they shouldn't be there
Yes some woman have self-esteem issues and thinks that bigger tits will solve them
Also there are men who gets horny by the view if inorganic bags squeezed into skin of women
Both categories can do whatever they want, but they shouldn't expect other people to accept it.

P.S. Must admit- "inorganic bags squeezed into skin of women" sounds really weird :/

 

[Realitycrash]

if I was single and met a girl I liked as a person with fake boobies, I wouldn't care. yeah I'd probably spot them (boobs aren't that round) but its who they are that counts.
if my misses came out and said I want breast implants I would dissuade her but understand why. girls wanting breast implants is like men wanting to be buff.

saying that I know a friend of a friend (sorry for the newspaper style source) that got chest implants to look ripped. (the guy is gay if it holds any bearing to this thread)

I think the thing to remember is the women or men that get plastic surgery to "pull" and are thought of as insecure/alpha people would most likely be seen that way without implants.

Your friend did realize that he could just work out right?

I mean it is cheaper, safer, and healthier.....

Women can't change their bust size through exercise but a mans pecks change based on use.

Not only do women need to be slim, but they must also magically be slim, while having fat at the precise right place (Breasts, Ass). It's pretty much just a crapshoot as to who gets it and who does not.

 

[Realitycrash]

I personally dislike implants
They are acceptable if there is need to restore breast(s), but otherwise they shouldn't be there
Yes some woman have self-esteem issues and thinks that bigger tits will solve them
Also there are men who gets horny by the view if inorganic bags squeezed into skin of women
Both categories can do whatever they want, but they shouldn't expect other people to accept it.

P.S. Must admit- "inorganic bags squeezed into skin of women" sounds really weird :/

And of course my standard question to you is; Do you feel the same about tattoos and piercings?

 

[S_SienZ]

I personally dislike implants
They are acceptable if there is need to restore breast(s), but otherwise they shouldn't be there
Yes some woman have self-esteem issues and thinks that bigger tits will solve them
Also there are men who gets horny by the view if inorganic bags squeezed into skin of women
Both categories can do whatever they want, but they shouldn't expect other people to accept it.

P.S. Must admit- "inorganic bags squeezed into skin of women" sounds really weird :/

And of course my standard question to you is; Do you feel the same about tattoos and piercings?

I share his stance so here's my opinion.

Don't like piercings as well, but don't mind them on ears. Tattoos are fine.

The problem I have generally is they feel different. Same reason I have a problem with piercings on say, the tongue. It ruins some physical aspects of sex for me.

Bottomline: Anything that a blind man could tell the difference, is a problem.

 

[blackrave]

I personally dislike implants
They are acceptable if there is need to restore breast(s), but otherwise they shouldn't be there
Yes some woman have self-esteem issues and thinks that bigger tits will solve them
Also there are men who gets horny by the view if inorganic bags squeezed into skin of women
Both categories can do whatever they want, but they shouldn't expect other people to accept it.

P.S. Must admit- "inorganic bags squeezed into skin of women" sounds really weird :/

And of course my standard question to you is; Do you feel the same about tattoos and piercings?

Yes, on rare occasions tattoos can have informational purpose (name, blood type, etc.), but I mostly consider them unnecessary
And piercing in lips/tongue are just unacceptable for me (to be honest they creep me out)