Fall of the U.S.?

[The Random One]

The only way the US could fall is if it lost some sort of huge war in a huge way and its territory was conquered/balkanized. Can't see that happening in the foreseeable future.

The parts of the US that are the angriest about such things are the same ones who consider themselves to be the core part of the country. Seceding would not help them prove any point.

Although if there was any chance of the US falling, say hello to the republics of Texas and California. (Pretty sure the US Constitution still allows a state to secede at any time. Come to think of it, if the US was balkanized by an outside force all of the states could secede to reorganize themselves in a way that hurt them less - keeping the farm belt together, etc.)

 

[era81]

Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces

We're off schedule!

Quick, Americans, get more angry!

Uhh, Obama is an islamic fundamentalist communist!

The Conservatives are stupid!


Quick people! We only have a couple more weeks till Civil war!

You forgot nazi!

 

[TheFacelessOne]

Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces

We're off schedule!

Quick, Americans, get more angry!

Uhh, Obama is an islamic fundamentalist communist!

The Conservatives are stupid!


Quick people! We only have a couple more weeks till Civil war!

You war whore Republicans!

 

[vento 231]

The only way the US could fall is if it lost some sort of huge war in a huge way and its territory was conquered/balkanized. Can't see that happening in the foreseeable future.

The parts of the US that are the angriest about such things are the same ones who consider themselves to be the core part of the country. Seceding would not help them prove any point.

Although if there was any chance of the US falling, say hello to the republics of Texas and California. (Pretty sure the US Constitution still allows a state to secede at any time. Come to think of it, if the US was balkanized by an outside force all of the states could secede to reorganize themselves in a way that hurt them less - keeping the farm belt together, etc.)

California would fall rather quickly, so I don't think it'll be a good move.

 

[likalaruku]

So while browsing another forum, I came across this [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html] basically predicts the United States would break apart by the end of 2010. We're too lazy to break apart. Would be too much effort for us.

True that.

 

[TheFacelessOne]

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

That's Texas... Who cares?

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

Well we can live without Texas.

Pffffff, yeah, right.

In the scenario in which any foreign power invades the continental U.S., Texas will be leading the rebellion, since everybody and their dog has enough guns to shame the military.

I wish I still lived there

Eh, I'd love to live in Colorado, but it's nice to know that I live in the state with the most guns per square mile.

Well, I guess that could swing both ways.

 

[Yureina]

The USA still has at least ~25 years of remaining as the world's only true superpower in my opinion. After that it will probably be a toss-up. All the "America is screwed" talk that i've been hearing lately seems like a mix between pessimism and secretive wishful thinking people have and will continue to have until they see what a post-US superpower world will actually look like. The USA's debt problem isnt as bad as people think it is (it's still bad), the rising powers in China and other developing nations are not doing as well as people think they are, and it will probably take even longer than 25 years before a rival power (China, India, etc) is able to come close to the quality and power of the US military. This is just my humble opinion though as someone who has dug into this subject alot lately.

A less respectful response would be that the person who made that prediction is a tosser.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.

Is there such a thing in this nation anymore?

Yes, it is the ghosts of Ronald Reagan, Jefferson Davis, George Washington, TJ and Adams, and Harry Truman and these ghost live on in the hearts of our citizens and leaders such as Ron Paul, the one man I know who could turn this country around.

 

[awsome117]

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

That's Texas... Who cares?

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

Well we can live without Texas.

Pffffff, yeah, right.

In the scenario in which any foreign power invades the continental U.S., Texas will be leading the rebellion, since everybody and their dog has enough guns to shame the military.

That's true, but in the start of the rebellion, they'll all get piss drunk, fire and drive randomly about and watch Nascar. Should be easy to put down.

 

[blalien]

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

I wonder why, more info please, When I lived there everyone was very patriotic.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html

Yes, Rick Perry threatened to secede three months after the black guy took office. What a classy fellow.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

(Pretty sure the US Constitution still allows a state to secede at any time. Come to think of it, if the US was balkanized by an outside force all of the states could secede to reorganize themselves in a way that hurt them less - keeping the farm belt together, etc.)

The only state that reserves the right to secede at any time explicitly is Texas due to its former status as a nation. Even Hawaii's incorporation doesn't say anything out loud. The rest are considered unable to secede by the U.S. Constitution, so says Abraham Lincoln.

South Carolina... just doesn't get the picture.

 

[Orcus The Ultimate]

Right now i can assure you it's more like Fall of North Korea...

 

[TheFacelessOne]

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

That's Texas... Who cares?

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

Well we can live without Texas.

Pffffff, yeah, right.

In the scenario in which any foreign power invades the continental U.S., Texas will be leading the rebellion, since everybody and their dog has enough guns to shame the military.

That's true, but in the start of the rebellion, they'll all get piss drunk, fire and drive randomly about and watch Nascar. Should be easy to put down.

Oh...

*Shoves his Hunting Shotgun to his forehead.*

You wanna say that again...punk?

In reality though, I think this would happen. If jizz got real, we'd save the drinks for celebrations.

Or we can use the drunk drivers as bait or suicide bombers against the Ruskies invading army.

 

[shotgunbob]

I find the map on that page funny.

I can understand the northern section of the midwest going to Canada and maybe even the Eastern US joining the EU but saying Americans would legally be connected to China and Mexico kind of cracks me up.

The deep south accepting Mexican rule thats a good joke

 

[Numb1lp]

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

He didn't threaten, he mentioned. I know it's stupid, but still a huge world of difference.

 

[awsome117]

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

That's Texas... Who cares?

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

Well we can live without Texas.

Pffffff, yeah, right.

In the scenario in which any foreign power invades the continental U.S., Texas will be leading the rebellion, since everybody and their dog has enough guns to shame the military.

That's true, but in the start of the rebellion, they'll all get piss drunk, fire and drive randomly about and watch Nascar. Should be easy to put down.

Oh...

*Shoves his Hunting Shotgun to his forehead.*

You wanna say that again...punk?

In reality though, I think this would happen. If jizz got real, we'd save the drinks for celebrations.

Or we can use the drunk drivers as bait or suicide bombers against the Ruskies invading army.

I would, but I have this niggling doubt that you are outside my house with said shotgun...

And I'll give them a chance to prove themselves in a real invasion.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.

Is there such a thing in this nation anymore?

I think I read in a volume of Transmetropolitan that no matter who sits in the White House, some people will never like him and he will always suck, I think it was The Beast (the current president in the volume that I read) who said that

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Not that I'd shed a tear if the US did collapse, quite the contrary, but I find this rather unlikely. His estimation of just how the US would be divided up seemed esp. far fetched. If the US did break up it's far more likely it would be into smaller distinct nations with little to no influence from Europe or Asia.

 

[Frankster]

9/11 showed us that we may have varying opinions and beliefs but we still are a very unified nation.

There is nothing better for patriotism then a big disaster like that happening, it makes the people scared and more likely to follow the goverment whatever they plan on doing. If anything patriotism went up 1000% after 9/11, united against what perceived threats (you even had a go at the french at one point for not supporting your war, renaming french fries, etc).

Otherwise im not american, so have no clue, but im under the impression UK is far more likely to be broken up then USA, scots want to break off and if they succeed, wales and northern ireland might get similar ideas.

 

[Frankster]

9/11 showed us that we may have varying opinions and beliefs but we still are a very unified nation.

There is nothing better for patriotism then a big disaster like that happening, it makes the people scared and more likely to follow the goverment whatever they plan on doing. If anything patriotism went up 1000% after 9/11, united against any perceived threats (you even had a go at the french at one point for not supporting your war, renaming french fries, etc).

Otherwise im not american, so have no clue, but im under the impression UK is far more likely to be broken up then USA, scots want to break off and if they succeed, wales and northern ireland might get similar ideas.