Fall of the U.S.?

[Canid117]

What people don't seem to realize is that the United States has always had problems it has been dealing with. We will get through any bad stuff that is happening now just like we have gotten through all the other shit of the past 230 years. This sounds like an Ex-Soviet Hardliner's wet dream and nothing more.

 

[awsome117]

9/11 showed us that we may have varying opinions and beliefs but we still are a very unified nation.

There is nothing better for patriotism then a big disaster like that happening, it makes the people scared and more likely to follow the goverment whatever they plan on doing. If anything patriotism went up 1000% after 9/11, united against what perceived threats (you even had a go at the french at one point for not supporting your war, renaming french fries, etc).

Otherwise im not american, so have no clue, but im under the impression UK is far more likely to be broken up then USA, scots want to break off and if they succeed, wales and northern ireland might get similar ideas.

Yah, but we got too lazy to care for the name change, and went back to calling the regular names.

I would think Ireland would be the first to go IMO

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.

Is there such a thing in this nation anymore?

I think I read in a volume of Transmetropolitan that no matter who sits in the White House, some people will never like him and he will always suck, I think it was The Beast (the current president in the volume that I read) who said that

That's why the President was invented. Yeah, yeah, there's the separation of powers bit, but there's a lot of, "because people need a face to blame the faults of the government on."

 

[Quiet Stranger]

Once we reelect a ACTUAL leader we should do fine.

Is there such a thing in this nation anymore?

I think I read in a volume of Transmetropolitan that no matter who sits in the White House, some people will never like him and he will always suck, I think it was The Beast (the current president in the volume that I read) who said that

That's why the President was invented. Yeah, yeah, there's the separation of powers bit, but there's a lot of, "because people need a face to blame the faults of the government on."

I never thought of it like that but yes, that is very true, I also think of it (why the president was invented) as a person we could drop all our problems onto and wipe our asses for us kind of thing

 

[awsome117]

What people don't seem to realize is that the United States has always had problems it has been dealing with. We will get through any bad stuff that is happening now just like we have gotten through all the other shit of the past 230 years.

Plus, if he claims economic problems as the cause, then we should have succeed in the 30s with the depression. As good a time as any for a rebellion.

 

[Blitzkrieg8]

I hope this doesn't happen i don't want to learn a whole new money system.

 

[Canid117]

What people don't seem to realize is that the United States has always had problems it has been dealing with. We will get through any bad stuff that is happening now just like we have gotten through all the other shit of the past 230 years.

Plus, if he claims economic problems as the cause, then we should have succeed in the 30s with the depression. As good a time as any for a rebellion.

I believe Texas and Oklahoma got in a brief civil war in 1931 over a shitty bridge but as you can see it did not break the nation apart. It only killed a few Texas and Oklahoma national gaurdsmen and gave the rest of us a chance to laugh at the south and the midwest.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

I never thought of it like that but yes, that is very true, I also think of it (why the president was invented) as a person we could drop all our problems onto and wipe our asses for us kind of thing

Now you know why the approval rating is always low. When I talk to people who dislike Obama on any level, I ask them what he can do as an individual. I get silence from the ignorant masses. From the informed opposition (Republicans who know what they're doing), I get the correct responses (sign bills, tells troops what to do, etc.).

So remember, kids. The President of the U.S. is no dictator, he's someone you can blame for Congress' or your own shortcomings.

 

[awsome117]

What people don't seem to realize is that the United States has always had problems it has been dealing with. We will get through any bad stuff that is happening now just like we have gotten through all the other shit of the past 230 years.

Plus, if he claims economic problems as the cause, then we should have succeed in the 30s with the depression. As good a time as any for a rebellion.

I believe Texas and Oklahoma got in a brief civil war in 1931 over a shitty bridge but as you can see it did not break the nation apart. It only killed a few Texas and Oklahoma national gaurdsmen and gave the rest of us a chance to laugh at the south and the midwest.

Exactly. Even in the worst economic conditions, we did fall apart.

 

[Frankster]

"At the end of the presentation, he says many delegates asked him to autograph copies of the map showing a dismembered U.S"

Well this part convinces me it's just wishful thinking of an overly patriotic russian who's spent his entire life viewing USA as an enemy in 1 form or another.

 

[CloggedDonkey]

Or we can use the drunk drivers as bait or suicide bombers against the Ruskies invading army.

Spoiler: WOLVERINES!

Anyway, we are far more unified then that.

 

[Canid117]

What people don't seem to realize is that the United States has always had problems it has been dealing with. We will get through any bad stuff that is happening now just like we have gotten through all the other shit of the past 230 years.

Plus, if he claims economic problems as the cause, then we should have succeed in the 30s with the depression. As good a time as any for a rebellion.

I believe Texas and Oklahoma got in a brief civil war in 1931 over a shitty bridge but as you can see it did not break the nation apart. It only killed a few Texas and Oklahoma national gaurdsmen and gave the rest of us a chance to laugh at the south and the midwest.

Exactly. Even in the worst economic conditions, we did fall apart.

No we did not, though I would like to edit my previous statement. It turns out that no one died in the Red River Bridge War. Texas Rangers and the Oklahoma militia simply stared each other down until the courts ordered everyone to calm the hell down.

 

[awsome117]

"At the end of the presentation, he says many delegates asked him to autograph copies of the map showing a dismembered U.S"

Well this part convinces me it's just wishful thinking of an overly patriotic russian who's spent his entire life viewing USA as an enemy in 1 form or another.

For some reason, I see them framing it, and putting them next to pictures of the Soviet Union.

 

[razormint21]

Ridiculous, Stupid, Impossible...

They just want to hear the possibility that they'll get Alaska.

Sarah Palin's "Real America" seems like a bigger challenge LOL

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Texas is actually a very nice place as long as you don't remind them it isn't 1850 anymore.

Not all of Texas is a problem. There are reasonable people throughout the state. That said, I live in the part of the state people making comments such as thus are undoubtedly alluding to. For another few months at any rate.

 

[Danzaivar]

Eh, it'll probably fall apart in the next few hundred years, but not this year. That's just wishful thinking on the part of some angry Russian.

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

This seems horrendously unlikely to me. If the US falls apart every American would be wanting to put it back together.

No there won't be some grand collapse of the superpower. Just slowly waning relative strength until some civilization with the desire and the muscle to stand up to the West actually rises up. Extra-terrestrial development and the general spirit of aid and cooperation will probably homogenize human civilizations before that happens though.

Well the governor of Texas did threaten to secede. So there's that.

Well we can live without Texas.

Texas has the second largest GSP (that's Gross State Product, a localized GDP for US States), that's pretty significant.

 

[direkiller]

The only way the US could fall is if it lost some sort of huge war in a huge way and its territory was conquered/balkanized. Can't see that happening in the foreseeable future.

The parts of the US that are the angriest about such things are the same ones who consider themselves to be the core part of the country. Seceding would not help them prove any point.

Although if there was any chance of the US falling, say hello to the republics of Texas and California. (Pretty sure the US Constitution still allows a state to secede at any time. Come to think of it, if the US was balkanized by an outside force all of the states could secede to reorganize themselves in a way that hurt them less - keeping the farm belt together, etc.)

The articles of confederation(what govern our country for the first 10 years or so and floped honorably) did let states to succeed the Constitution dose not hence our civil war and Whiskey Rebellion


when i looked at the map all i saw was this