Fallout 3 DLC - Why Bethesda

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McClaud

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Oh man. Bethesda had the disclaimer on their Fallout 3 development blog, FFS. If you were a really big fan of this game and were excited about it, why didn't you pick it up from the source? I know I did, that's why I bought it for my XBox 360 and not for my PS3.

pdgeorge said:
The only thing I'm saying is they should not be allowed to sell half a game to one group of people, who for the most part, won't find out that they spend more time on google then they do playing the game.
Honestly, I hate exclusives as well, as the developer will always make more money and more dedicated fans that way. In turn, they can make more good games.

The reality is - and here I go for the nth time since I joined this board explaining - that Sony chose to put the burden of cost for their servers on the developers, not the subscribers. Which is a broken model, since every month since last November, Sony's been reporting that the PSN is running in the red. When they finally authorize to charge PS3 owners a subscription fee for the service, I'm going to bet that the developers start changing their tune of exclusive DLC for the 360.

The other problem is that the O/S for the PS3 is pile of shit code-wise, and someone in Sony needs to go back and change the obvious flaws that hinder developers from making awesome games on the PS3. I know this because I've worked with their code. Why does it take longer to make a great game on the PS3? Because it takes the developers twice as long to code it.

And that's all I gotta say about that. Otherwise, I get Sony PS3 fanboys who don't work with Sony's code coming in here and denying reality all over again.
 

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EnglishMuffin said:
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EnglishMuffin said:
Well you have to remember that bethesda is a terrible company that makes terrible games. Would you rather have Bethesda give you DLC or shove a big black dildo up your ass? It's a difficult question to answer.
woah what the heck. Bethesda makes good games, you cant even back up why there bad probably.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh man that is fucking hilarious. They haven't made a good game since TES:3. They don't make games they play them. That is what their executive douchebag said and I believe it. TES 4 and especially fallout3 were not planned out and not balanced. They just made a shitty short main storyline and then added a bunch of sidequests as they played. The scripts, storyline, AI, voice acting, combat, models, and engine were terrible. Both games are buggy pieces of shit. They don't test anything and rely on the modding community to make up for every fucking game fault. The only redeeming quality is the layout of the game world but why the fuck does that make these games loved by retarded monkeys? I guess they just like shiny visuals. I am positive they can't read or spell correctly.

You honestly have to be borderline retarded to enjoy anything bethesda has made in the past 5 years.
Screw off, i liked Oblivion and Fall out 3, i am not retarded. just cause you didnt like it doesnt mean you gotta call everyone that did a retard.

crap your a troll...
 

OneBig Man

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ThePlasmatizer said:
Here's an unbiased summary of the topic which encompasses all the preceding posts and following posts.

Xbox 360 Players: YAY/That's business/360 is the best/360 sells more/*insert snarky PS3 comment*

PS3 Players: Unfair/Evil Microsoft/Evil Marketing Tactics/PS3 is superior/*insert snarky 360 comment*

PC Players: Noobs/Real gamers play on the PC

I don't know what you are talking about, I'm a 360 owner and i'm glad. I thought I was good decision. that is what makes 360 teh best evar! and 360 will win the counsle war. i knew this would happen to ps3 owners, they would get screwed over. Wait...crap he was right.
 

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Yatrix said:
MS is just doing the same thing Sony used to when they were in control. Bethesda knew they'd put some ppl off by going with the company in control and taking the money. Bethesda is in it for the money like everyone else and they'll make more off the 360 and exclusivity than with the PS3 alone. Taking guaranteed money is never a bad idea.

Don't get mad at Bethesda, you're the one that got a PS3 instead of a 360. A lot of PS2 owners chose brand loyalty over their best interests. Sony was counting on those types. Hope the BR player was worth it instead of the much larger library of quality games (I have both systems as well as the Wii-made-a-mistake-in-buying-this).
I have seriously been thinking about selling my PS3 since I never use it...
 

NoDamnNames

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Everyone is always talking about the power "locked inside of the ps3". Being a ps3 owner I can only speculate and imagine a small disgruntled demonic demigod bound in chains with ancient magic binding inscriptions and runes around its cage that prevent it from unleashing its unholy power. It's there, I paid for it, but its "locked inside"....

With there already being talk about the next generation of consoles that creature better stop dragging its ass.

Honestly tho, allot of ps3 owners complain they aren't getting the dlc that adds what? a small handful of side quests and a mission? How man of you people have actually completed all of the billions of side quests in the original damned game?
 

Trendkill6

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The only thing that bothers me about it is that it's altering the ending and raising the cap. They're alienating a (admitantly small) portion of their fanbase which can really bite them in the ass one day.
 

Zayren

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Yeah, must suck for PS3 Fallout 3'ers to not get the DLC, Broken Steel is pretty fun.

If you just want the story bits, I could tell you what happens...
 

McClaud

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Trendkill6 said:
The only thing that bothers me about it is that it's altering the ending and raising the cap. They're alienating a (admitantly small) portion of their fanbase which can really bite them in the ass one day.
Actually, they're doing it because that ending and that cap was what alienated a lot of players to start with.
 

Trendkill6

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McClaud said:
Trendkill6 said:
The only thing that bothers me about it is that it's altering the ending and raising the cap. They're alienating a (admitantly small) portion of their fanbase which can really bite them in the ass one day.
Actually, they're doing it because that ending and that cap was what alienated a lot of players to start with.
Sorry about that I should clarify what I ment. I ment that raising the cap and altering the ending, but then only realeasing it for 360. That's why I liked consoles pre-dlc everyone got the same game the same ending.
 

phar

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I do perfer Sonys way. Live is a waste of money for most people outside of the US. Its fairly clear that FO3 on PS3 was a real after thought, I can just imagine them kicking and screaming while putting it together.
 

Nurb

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PC gamers wouldn't pay for DLC. They'd download it via bit torrent, same as the DLC they tried to screw people over for in Oblivion.

Console gamers are forced to buy it if they want it.
 

YuheJi

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Well I've been able to keep playing after the game ended for months due to mods. And I've been able to raise the cap crazy high, and reach that cap in seconds (due to cheats, of course).
 

tangylaser

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it seems to me that the xbox is the last one taken seriously. the wii is for 6 year olds the ps3 dosen't really seem like it can stand up to the xbox in fan base and dlc's so i think that the xbox won for now
 

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phar said:
I do perfer Sonys way. Live is a waste of money for most people outside of the US. Its fairly clear that FO3 on PS3 was a real after thought, I can just imagine them kicking and screaming while putting it together.
You prefer Sony's way even though it's why Sony games don't get DLC and thus the gamers who spent $400-$600 on their PS3 cannot get the full experience that others get.

I'm not sure what is compelling you to think that this is somehow worth filing under "a good idea".
 

phar

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AceDiamond said:
You prefer Sony's way even though it's why Sony games don't get DLC and thus the gamers who spent $400-$600 on their PS3 cannot get the full experience that others get.

I'm not sure what is compelling you to think that this is somehow worth filing under "a good idea".
Its pretty obvious they are not getting FO3 DLC in question because Bethesda have stated they dont like the PS3 and FO3 was clearly an after thought for a bit of a money grab since it has barely any polish at all.

I dont see how people can stand by MS and say how fantastic it is that they have to pay $70 odd for Live when PSN service is free to the consumer. Most game developers have to pay to distribute their content on the PC, it should be such a bit hassle to do so on the PSN.
 

Code ZX-19

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I know! They should have the DLC for the PS3 also! Why the hell is it only for the 360? It's a stupid idea to limit something to one side! I have nothing against the 360, but I'm just saying, There's fans on the PS3 side that really want to continue the Fallout 3 storyline in cool and interesting ways. And they're willing to pay money for them!!!
 

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It's probably the same deal with Valve and the Orange box, Valve has no PS3 development tools, it was left in the hands of EA, who had to be petitioned to put surround sound in it, and it'll never get the new updates.

Bethesta is probably avoiding doing the DLC because the PS3 is a lot harder to program for and they're more experienced with PC, and since the 360 IS basically a PC, it's easy to program for. Or it simply could be, as stated above, Microsoft has a exclusive deal on it for a few years much like Sony did the same to MS with Unreal Tournament 3. Which was funny because there were videos and ads in magazines for unreal 3 till sony bought the rights for a year, then all traces vanished real fast till later.