Fallout Canada???

[Doctor VonSexMachine]

Americans, Canadians, and everyone else out in the world, what do you think? Isn't it time for some veriaty?

No

The Fallout series has always, and should always, taken place in America. This is for a reason. The game's setting focuses around an exaggerated American gold age that was devastated by nuclear war. The fate of other areas of the world is ambiguous for a reason. Think of all the reoccurring themes that have been shown throughout the series. Many of these are heavily tied to the American setting.

While Canada is a bit more reasonable than, say, China, I still think the Fallout games should stick to America. At least, that's my opinion. I don't think there is any reason to change the setting just for the sake of variety, since there are already tons of varied landscapes and cities here in America.

However I wouldn't mind briefly vising Canada in something like DLC. I just don't want a whole game set there.

What he said. I mean, I guess you could argue that by then we'd be sucked up into what effectively remains America (North American Union, anyone?)
Before I read any other responses my first thought was that the population density isn't high enough, nor do we really have many cities that would be iconic enough. I mean, most of Ontario is pretty much a wasteland already. *ducks and covers*
Toronto is boring, (hey, I live here!) maybe Montreal would work. Ottawa is too small. There is nothing uniquely 'Canadian' that would stand out after an apocalypse the way feverish American patriots do.

Maybe have a Canadian character, or mention? I don't know...

 

[jmd102993]

I know what you mean. It has always bothered me that everything takes place in the states. I know that they are a large demographic but how about some stories that are told in Canada?

How about some that don't depict us as living in igloos or chopping wood or saying "eh" all the time?

Would it be so wrong for a tv show, movie, or video game to take place in Vancouver? How about Ottawa? They are large cities that are known.

I think people have a mentality that Canada is just boring or something. Like there couldn't be some murder mystery/serial killer on the loose in our country cause we are all too busy drinking beer and eating bacon.

dude were mostly jealous that you get your own damn kind of bacon

 

[Randomanom]

Vancouver would be cool too, Ottawa, screw Ottawa.
Also yes i have no doubt that new vegas will be amazing and if they ruin it for any reason heads will roll.

As to people wanting to recognize what they see, well really now it`s an open world game, your supposed to explore and discover. What fun is it if you already know everything. Look at Prototype, Ya it was fun and all but I knew what everything was from the world go. (also is there really only one possable way for a building to collapse really prototype guys mix it up)

 

[DMonkey]

Didn't the US annex canada in the Fallout time line?
Personally, speaking as an american, as long as it is well done, I don't care where the setting is. But I think we could do a lot better then canada. Perhaps china? You KNOW the US wouldn't get ourselves all blown up without tossing a couple of nukes their way. Might also explore the other side of the story.

 

[Mercsenary]

Isnt the Commonwealth placed in Canada? I think someone said Dr. Li packed up to head North...

 

[Doctor VonSexMachine]

Everyone knows that the only places in the world is America. Everything ever will happen there. No where else.

I quite enjoyed that District 9 made a point of not being in America.

I think it was set there because of the apartheid parallels...and I guess being written by South Africans.

There are thankfully a lot more 'mainstream' films being based in Canada. Bon Cop Bad Cop, The new Liam Nelson *swoon* movie Chloe, and we can't forget the Trailer Park Boys.

 

[Treefingers]

A Guy Ritchie GTA universe would be fun.

ZOMG YES PLEASE

 

[silver wolf009]

we actually re-invaded Canada in fallout 2.

Random encounter.

 

[ThaBenMan]

Isnt the Commonwealth placed in Canada? I think someone said Dr. Li packed up to head North...

I think the Commonwealth is in Massachusetts or thereabouts. But there are mentions of Ronto, which must be post-apocalyptic Toronto.

After reading some more of the opening post, a lot of those ideas sound pretty fun. I'd play a game like that.

 

[The Eggplant]

Certainly a cool idea, no pun intended...from a personal standpoint I'd be a fan, if for no other reason than I think the idea of a bleak and snowswept wilderness would very nicely convey the feeling of isolation from society that the rest of the Fallout series has always given me.

However, two problems arise. One is an entirely geeky one, namely that Canada as we know it no longer exists in the Fallout universe. Geographically it's still there, obviously, but politically speaking it was annexed by the U.S. not long before the Great War, so to my mind playing in Canada wouldn't be all that different from America, given that military takeover of a nation tends to lead to the fairly rapid integration of the conqueror's culture in the captive nation...witness the aftermath of the Battle of Hastings, for example.

My second problem with the concept is somewhat contradictory to my earlier sentiment of approval for Canada's relative wilderness compared to the U.S., namely that it might be TOO wild. Fallout has, to me, always been about the attempt to survive in a wilderness of our own creation. Yes, to be sure the series spends extensive time in areas of relative wasteland, but there's always a touch of former civilization hovering around the edges. Fallout's message, inasmuch as it can be said to have one, has always been to me one of hubris and its dangers. The constant presence of the last faded remnants of civilization in even the most remote areas of the Fallout wastes speaks to the foolish pride with which America overdeveloped itself, and the inevitable catastrophe that such reckless overgrowth led to. So to transplant that concept into a natural wilderness, such as exists still in large chunks of Canada...I dunno if it would work. Take away the man-made element of the waste, and really you might as well play Bloodmoon with AK's.

Er...just my two cents, of course.

 

[Macar]

I want a fallout game in Boston!

Canada probably finds some way to be left alone during the nuke-Holocaust, because everyone loves them.

 

[Silva]

No

The Fallout series has always, and should always, taken place in America. This is for a reason. The game's setting focuses around an exaggerated American gold age that was devastated by nuclear war. The fate of other areas of the world is ambiguous for a reason. Think of all the reoccurring themes that have been shown throughout the series. Many of these are heavily tied to the American setting.

While Canada is a bit more reasonable than, say, China, I still think the Fallout games should stick to America. At least, that's my opinion. I don't think there is any reason to change the setting just for the sake of variety, since there are already tons of varied landscapes and cities here in America.

However I wouldn't mind briefly vising Canada in something like DLC. I just don't want a whole game set there.

There's no need for all Fallout games to be set in America.

Yes, there is a certain tone to 1950's America that is emulated and parodied by the game.

But you'd be in a silly historical position to argue that other countries did not go through a similar "golden age" at one point or another. Actually, the modernisation (a process which included "Americanisation", which is exactly what it says on the tin) of the rest of the world is something that started in the early 20th Century.

So by the 1950's, most of the Allied nations from WWII were already emulating America in infrastructure (skyscrapers, high-rise buildings), cultural entertainment (movies and TV), and optimism (comic books and advertising from that time will remind you of the Pip-Boy) as much as possible, because it made economic sense to do so. It also made psychological sense as a way to forget the horrors of a "total war" that forced even civilians to work harder and struggle for the war effort. So we shouldn't rule out the Allied nations, or their colonies, as possibilities.

Not to mention, there may well be a need to change the setting, for audience empathy purposes, if ever the game market outside of America gets big enough to change the business focus. And that's already happening as China industrialises. Fallout: China (or perhaps even Fallout: India) may make little business sense now, but who knows - in 40 years, anything could happen.

Personally, I want to see a Fallout set in Australia. Just because I want to see the law suits that Mel Gibson fires at Bethesda for "copying" Mad Max. Though, it might get a bit depressing, seeing Sydney or Canberra in ruins. Those of us who are not American are missing a big part of the Fallout magic, which is to say, we don't get to see a city that we've likely been in or identify with in its post-apocalyptic state. So it's all a bit of a distanced experience unless it diversifies and tries other settings.

I don't want to be that guy, but...

Although, a Guy Ritchie GTA universe would be fun.

Right after we get another British GTA game, guv'na

Bolded for her your pleasure ;d

Don't want to be that guy...again, but...

I just feel sorry for Amnestic after this exchange. How cruel. Bahahaha.

 

[Macar]

Isnt the Commonwealth placed in Canada? I think someone said Dr. Li packed up to head North...

I think the Commonwealth is in Massachusetts or thereabouts. But there are mentions of Ronto, which must be post-apocalyptic Toronto.

After reading some more of the opening post, a lot of those ideas sound pretty fun. I'd play a game like that.

And yes, the commonwealth clearly refers to Mass- or at least I completely assumed that, and that "the institute" refereed to MIT.

 

[Amnestic]

I don't want to be that guy, but...

Although, a Guy Ritchie GTA universe would be fun.

Right after we get another British GTA game, guv'na

Bolded for her your pleasure ;d

Don't want to be that guy...again, but...

What part of "Another" isn't there? Okay, we've had London and the London mission pack. Can we have another one? Preferably using the same type of engine as GTA3 onwards?

 

[Randomanom]

Just for purpose of clarification as to the whole wilderness aspect of things being too desolate or too wilderness and "heavily populated woods" as someone called it. Toronto is a city of several million people so we're not exactly in wooden huts.

As to the fact that it would contradict the current storyline of the fallout universe, yes i agree it would, in response to that i'd have to go with the not all games have to follow a liner timetable from one game to the next, hell if you did that with all the world war two games that have been made then the war would have lasted a few thousand years rather than the actual 6 and more germans have been killed than the entire history of mankind.

 

[SturmDolch]

If you want to experience Fallout: Canada, just go to downtown Edmonton. Tons of ghouls, drug addicts, trash, and dilapidated buildings. We even have the equivalent of Mr. Tenpenny as Daryll Katz, a guy who wants to use taxpayer money to build an arena (which we already have).

 

[The Eggplant]

And yes, the commonwealth clearly refers to Mass- or at least I completely assumed that, and that "the institute" refereed to MIT.

Correct on both counts. As a Bostonian myself, the state still goes by its fairly archaic title of "The Commonwealth of Massachusetts" on all its official letterhead. Exactly why is anyone's guess.

EDIT: Wait, I just noticed...

I want a fallout game in Boston!

THIS.

 

[Mucinex-D]

Canada is a cold, dark, scary place... who wants to spend an entire game where every npc greets you with "oi"? And ghoul mounties roam everywhere? Don't even get me started on the penguin raiders...

On a serious note, lots of the Fallout atmosphere revolves around 1950s America. The music.. the personality.. etc. Putting a fallout game somewhere else would just me another post-apocalyptic game with none of the fallout charm.