Fallout has ruined RPGs for me
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Join No Mutants Allowed and prepare for a life full of bitterness and rage. You will never enjoy any other video game ever again. You could also become a Wasteland fan and look down on all of the Fallout fans and tell them how dumbed down and limited Fallout is.
Alternatively, relax a little and enjoy games for what they are. Fallout isn't the Platonic ideal form of a game.
PS. I only referenced a philosopher because it's the only language that Fallout fans respond to. Anything less a source than a well known philosopher and Fallout fans rightly turn up their hyper intelligent noses.
PPS. Yes, I'm saying that Fallout fans have learned to think with their noses. I believe that it is because they are so good at making choices and handling consequences that they are able to choose to think with whatever part of the body they like.
Alternatively, relax a little and enjoy games for what they are. Fallout isn't the Platonic ideal form of a game.
PS. I only referenced a philosopher because it's the only language that Fallout fans respond to. Anything less a source than a well known philosopher and Fallout fans rightly turn up their hyper intelligent noses.
PPS. Yes, I'm saying that Fallout fans have learned to think with their noses. I believe that it is because they are so good at making choices and handling consequences that they are able to choose to think with whatever part of the body they like.
Fallout 1 ruined Fallout 3 for me. Now I have to forget it's supposed to be a fallout game to enjoy it. I wish they hadn't removed all the RPG elements... Sigh.
Baldur's gate 2
Plancape Torment
Earthbound
Demon's Souls(unless you're going to sit and cry because you suck like Yahtzee)
Dragon Age: Origins
Morrowind
KotOR games
Vampire: The Masquerade
Why are people suggesting Oblivion and Fallout 3 etc? I think he wants deep RPGs not shallow action games with a few upgradable stats.
Plancape Torment
Earthbound
Demon's Souls(unless you're going to sit and cry because you suck like Yahtzee)
Dragon Age: Origins
Morrowind
KotOR games
Vampire: The Masquerade
Why are people suggesting Oblivion and Fallout 3 etc? I think he wants deep RPGs not shallow action games with a few upgradable stats.
Go play Super Metroid (if you can). Every 2D platformer after that just falls short. The 'Metroid Effect' is the situation where you've just enjoyed something that is all-but-flawless in every way, is the very epitome of it's genre. It becomes difficult to enjoy other, similar things after having experienced the wonders of...whatever it is. They just seem like inferior imitations, every moment a cruel reminder that they just don't measure up. That is the Metroid Effect. Or Effect.LeonHellsvite said:
You're doomed. Now go play FPS and enjoy yourself (j/k)Axolotl said:
The first 2 are by far the best, why not play them again? Nothing has come close to them for me (despite having only had them for a small amount of time) but there is stuff that you can still get enjoyment out of playing.
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Well that was bloody needless, seriously - why did you put that? that p*ssed me off to some extent.BaldursBananaSoap said:
I loved Super Metroid but it didn't ruin every other thing for me... Just Megaman, but now I have grown to love it again and feel stupid for losing faith in Megaman.Veylon said:
Damn you, PS3 owner. I am also in love with that game. I've never had so much fun getting my ass kicked since Devil May Cry 3.Gondito said:
Too bad I don't own it.
Well, I often find that Neverwinter Nights and Neverwinter Nights 2 are great games. Though the main stories of the second game are a bit "meh", the community mods are the biggest reason I'm drawn to them.
Get Baldur's Gate + The Expansion, Baldurs Gate 2 + Throne of Bhaal and the baldurs2 engine mod for 1.
Play a character through all 4.
See you next year
Play a character through all 4.
See you next year
I tried Baldur's Gate 1 but I Kept on getting instakilled by hideously unbalanced random encounters. I'll never forget when I looked down at the message screen and it just said "Ogre Mage casts invisibility". In addition to that I spent most of my play-time in the game savegrinding through a Gnoll Fortress looking for some woman I never found. The rest of the games may be perfect but I can't get past the opening section.Brickcups said:
For the other games people have recommended I'm trying to get Planescape and Vampire, I'll look into Arcanum. I completed Mass Effect and it was horrible, this meant that I've not tried KOTOR much as it keeps crashing on me and I've never really been interested in the Star Wars universe. I tried Dragon Age and it was just far too flawed to enjoy (I'm in too minds about giving it another go but I'm put off by all the other experiences I've had with Bioware).
I can play Fallout 3 and Oblivion, but only as exploration-based action games, whenever I speak to somebody or try and do a quest it feels like being kicked in the face (I'm currently try Mothership Zeta which is utterly awful). Morrowind was better but I can't play it because of the cliffracers/slaughterfish, and the godawful dialogue system.
...and that's why I suggested Baldur's Gate 2 (TWO). Much more epic, better balanced, more class choices, better companion characters, much more epic storyline, less time spent in generic forest environments and more time spent in alternate planar dimensions, ancient ruins, forgotten temples, etc.Axolotl said:
The first one is quite hard (unless you exploit the game) and unforgiving, especially at lower levels. It was good for its time, but it doesn't measure up as well today. Baldur's Gate 2 on the other hand is still one of the most brilliant games ever made.
Aaaaaand Baldur's gate one, you know, to get some background story and awesome character interactionsBrickcups said: