Far Cry 4, Assassin's Creed Unity Unavailable on Steam in The UK - Only uPlay

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ProtoChimp

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Jayngfet said:
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Wow. Charging an extra £10 just because they can, on a service the world has collectively agreed is garbage, and said they would get rid of.

I feel sorry for the devs who make a really good game that I don't want to buy out of spite for that company.
I think you're not getting the real gravity of the situation. Mainly because of the gravity of Ubisoft's screwup. That is to say, Ubisoft literally can not afford to price this game regularly.

They screwed the pooch big time here. They put ten studios and thousands of people to work on Unity and they massively overblew things. The sheer jump in complexity from Black Flag to Unity must've taken a staggering amount of work given the inventory overhauls, the amount of detailing the cities needed, the crowd AI overhaul and boosting, the sidequests going from text messages to fully voiced and acted, and a million other stupid ass things they dumped on us at once. Not to mention that given the timeline of events Unity has to cover like three times as many years as Black Flag did and go through three different government regimes instead of one(ok, 2 had a few but they entirely glossed over the Medici thing when it got inconvenient aside from a throwaway line in the DLC, whereas Unity wants us to go from Louis to Robespierre to Napoleon with no breaks).

This could fully well be the thing that kills Assassins Creed. They really should have split this like they did 2 and Brotherhood to cover the revolution and reign of terror and Napoleon properly, and staggered development to match. But they didn't, because they got greedy.
Oh man... that actually makes me really want to play the game. Fuck that sounds like a load of advancements, but God this is a dumb decision. Son of a ***** why is this company so good but so dumb! Now I'm just sad.
 

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Not sure why anyone would want a Ubisoft game at launch anyway on the PC. Things are horridly optimized to the point of ridiculousness.
 

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Oh well fuck that then. I wasn't particularly excited for either so this is means there's no chance.
 

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We'll need UPlay to run these anyway, so the non-appearance on Steam isn't actually a big thing, if anything it simplifies it.

The issue is the high cost, so back to waiting for a discount.
 

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Congratulations, Ubisoft, you just lost a sale for Far Cry 4. I've put up with Uplay in the past when I've had to use it, but forcing me to buy directly from the Uplay store for a higher price is a no go.
 

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Kungfu_Teddybear said:
Congratulations, Ubisoft, you just lost a sale for Far Cry 4. I've put up with Uplay in the past when I've had to use it, but forcing me to buy directly from the Uplay store for a higher price is a no go.
You are aware ultimately they decide any lower prices on Steam right? What happens for you if they were on both storefronts and it was cheaper on Uplay?
 

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Rozalia1 said:
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Congratulations, Ubisoft, you just lost a sale for Far Cry 4. I've put up with Uplay in the past when I've had to use it, but forcing me to buy directly from the Uplay store for a higher price is a no go.
You are aware ultimately they decide any lower prices on Steam right? What happens for you if they were on both storefronts and it was cheaper on Uplay?
I'd still buy it from Steam. The issue isn't so much the price, but how they're treating their customers. All my PC games, apart from maybe 5 that are on Origin, are on Steam and I'd prefer to keep buying from there. I don't like Uplay, I never have, I only ever use it when I have to have it open to play a Ubisoft game, which isn't often as I don't play a lot of their titles. I don't want to have to start buying games from Uplay too.
 

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...My family pre-ordered this for me on console, so I don't personally feel it.

I will say this, though.

This had better FEEL like a £50 game. If it does... okay then.
 

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I'd still buy it from Steam. The issue isn't so much the price, but how they're treating their customers. All my PC games, apart from maybe 5 that are on Origin, are on Steam and I'd prefer to keep buying from there. I don't like Uplay, I never have, I only ever use it when I have to have it open to play a Ubisoft game, which isn't often as I don't play a lot of their titles. I don't want to have to start buying games from Uplay too.
So...price isn't the issue...having to have Uplay isn't an issue as you'd need it even if you brought it through Steam...than what is the issue really? That cut to Steam really that important?
 

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Well they are not in the europe store either.

I have a question, if you buy the physical copy do you need to install Uplay or origin to play the game?
yes. any game from ubisoft requires their uplay. so as any EA titles requires origin. the latest retail version i got is watch dogs and it runs through uplay. good thing is, it does cloud saving, so i didnt lose any of my progress when i had to format and install win anew.
 

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Heh. £50 for a PC game that comes with Ubisoft's DRM. I'm going to have to double-check my calendar, because I could have sworn it wasn't April 1st again yet.
 

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Rozalia1 said:
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I'd still buy it from Steam. The issue isn't so much the price, but how they're treating their customers. All my PC games, apart from maybe 5 that are on Origin, are on Steam and I'd prefer to keep buying from there. I don't like Uplay, I never have, I only ever use it when I have to have it open to play a Ubisoft game, which isn't often as I don't play a lot of their titles. I don't want to have to start buying games from Uplay too.
So...price isn't the issue...having to have Uplay isn't an issue as you'd need it even if you brought it through Steam...than what is the issue really? That cut to Steam really that important?
I did just say that I would prefer to continue buying from Steam, instead of having to buy from Uplay since I don't like it. I already use Origin and Steam, and while I would rather just have all my games on the one client, I can put up with Origin. I don't want to have to start using another distribution service to buy games.
 

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Well, I guess Jim Sterling is going to have a field day. About Ubisoft. Again.

Seems to be a running trend recently.
 

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Ubisfot long term business plan:
1. Make shit game
2. Make shit port of shit game that has problems running smoothly even on high-end PCs.
3. Make shit port of shit game only avaible on shit service and sell it for 50 brit dollar
4. Make shit comments about people and talk bullshit about cinematic experiences
5. Complain that people pirate the game
6. Repeat step 1 to 4 until you go bankrupt

Can't wait for step 6 to finish.
 

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Kungfu_Teddybear said:
I did just say that I would prefer to continue buying from Steam, instead of having to buy from Uplay since I don't like it. I already use Origin and Steam, and while I would rather just have all my games on the one client, I can put up with Origin. I don't want to have to start using another distribution service to buy games.
But if this at all matters to you than you already have used Uplay...so why would buying it there be an issue? Its easy, just as easy as Steam. I mean you're basically saying Ubisoft should hand over a tribute to Valve just so you can just use the details you've got on Steam, and not have to add some to Uplay...something easily done in a minute.

CaptainMarvelous said:
Also OT, it's less about the slight to Valve more the slight to Gamers. If Ubi are genuinely saying the game won't distribute through Steam so they can push uPlay AND jack the price up then well... they can frankly go to hell. Speaking as a damn console peasant, I think that's shitty.
I don't think price is the issue, if it was there wouldn't be this big focus on Steam.
Its most odd that for all the talk of a free platform so many people want a monopoly, and anything that goes against that is immediately hounded.

But...people say grand things they don't really mean all the time... for all the doom talk they'll accept it in time. Just look at Origin.

BiH-Kira said:
Ubisfot long term business plan:
1. Make shit game
2. Make shit port of shit game that has problems running smoothly even on high-end PCs.
3. Make shit port of shit game only avaible on shit service and sell it for 50 brit dollar
4. Make shit comments about people and talk bullshit about cinematic experiences
5. Complain that people pirate the game
6. Repeat step 1 to 4 until you go bankrupt

Can't wait for step 6 to finish.
You know people have been saying Ubisoft is going bankrupt for years now, heck didn't that talk all start around the release of Assassins Creed 2 (so 2009 than). When is this mythical bankruptcy going to happen?
 

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Steven Bogos said:
For the record, £49.99 British pounds converts to $77.63 U.S. dollars. Assassin's Creed: Unity is currently selling for $59.99 on the U.S. Steam store.
just for completeness, i know the UK version has the VAT added (it has to by law the price on it has to be what you pay here) but i know thats not the case in the US, so i am wondering if US folks will have a sales tax extra that isnt reflected in the price.

it would be real interesting to see how this affects sales and piracy in the uk , for me i am not really interested in either franchise and just wont be getting them because of this, and of course the pirates get to avoid uplay so how many more people will go that way.
 

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Rozalia1 said:
Kungfu_Teddybear said:
I did just say that I would prefer to continue buying from Steam, instead of having to buy from Uplay since I don't like it. I already use Origin and Steam, and while I would rather just have all my games on the one client, I can put up with Origin. I don't want to have to start using another distribution service to buy games.
But if this at all matters to you than you already have used Uplay...so why would buying it there be an issue? Its easy, just as easy as Steam. I mean you're basically saying Ubisoft should hand over a tribute to Valve just so you can just use the details you've got on Steam, and not have to add some to Uplay...something easily done in a minute.
Okay, it's as simple as this: I don't want to have to buy games from Uplay for my own reasons. If you have no problem using and buying games from Uplay then good for you.
 

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If it isn't available on steam or from someone like GoG who don't believe in drm then it isn't available on pc in my eyes. I have had issues with UPlay of late anyway, but I have partly forgiven them sice Ubi at least tried to integrate it with Steam so I didnt have to install something else - this seems to change things however.
 

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Hey Ubisoft, would you like a a new shovel? You seem to be pretty enthusiastic about that whole you're digging I figured you might want to use some help.

*Gives you a brand new state of the art*