FBI Executes Search Warrants on 40 Anonymous Members

[YouShouldDeleteThisAccount]

There's no such thing as an "anonymous member". They aren't some underground organisation or anything. Someone has posted on /b/ telling everyone to download lioc and ddos those websites and they did so. The people who did that just happened to be online at that particular time and thought it would be a laugh to join in. You can't just fucking arrest people like that and expect the problem to go away. This sort of thing cannot be control and the fact that an organisation like the FBI has even bothered to do so just underlines how out of fucking touch they are. People are out there killing and raping and they want to go after 14 year olds who browse the internet?

This person wins a cookie. Anonymous isn't a real "group".

It's like if a rioting mob occurred after a unfavorable law change or political announcement and it damaged various property and hurt lots of people. It doesn't mean that there's an anti-establishment organization called "Rioting Mob" that uses terrorism as a means of change.


The problem won't die until people stop wanting to act out, and it's gonna take a lot more than 40 warrants to do that.

 

[Corsion]

There's no such thing as an "anonymous member". They aren't some underground organisation or anything. Someone has posted on /b/ telling everyone to download lioc and ddos those websites and they did so. The people who did that just happened to be online at that particular time and thought it would be a laugh to join in. You can't just fucking arrest people like that and expect the problem to go away. This sort of thing cannot be control and the fact that an organisation like the FBI has even bothered to do so just underlines how out of fucking touch they are. People are out there killing and raping and they want to go after 14 year olds who browse the internet?

I think this is just another case of the FBI (the American government) getting their panties in a twist about something that shouldn't be taken seriously. This has been happening over and over since 9/11 and it needs to stop.

 

[The Random One]

Anonymous can never defeat the FBI. They have... curtains.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I've said it before, when it comes to governments and the top level police like the FBI, and to an extent the entire legal system, any crime that makes a corporation lose real money, of course is going to be a 'worse' and more important crime than rape or murder, I'm assuming the victim didn't lose potential sales during the rape or murder? Then it's obviously not as important as the dollar and we need to get international police on the case.

It all seems fairly simple, if you can afford to pay for a big court case, then you're pretty much buying a 'guilty' verdict for whoever annoyed you, and you're obviously far more important than any petty ideas of 'right and wrong' or 'justice', where's the cash in dealing with nonsense like that?

More than anything, I think Anon started bugging the wrong people is all, it's not that they did wrong, they did it to people with power and money. All the time they were harrassing individuals and ruining the lives of kids like that (admittedly highly annoying) kid and her her dad, they were never going to be a threat to anyone's profit margins.

Now they're important.

 

[Anton P. Nym]

I think the FBI are only doing this because of how many times Anonymous have insulted them, not because of any actual crimes worthy of arrest.
Definitely not worth the resources to go after a bunch of 13 year olds who googled 'how to DDoS'.

What resources? For all we know this was a grad project for the FBI Academy's "Cybercrime 101" class. It's not like tracing this took top-flight investigators or anything.

-- Steve

 

[Corsion]

I think the FBI are only doing this because of how many times Anonymous have insulted them, not because of any actual crimes worthy of arrest.
Definitely not worth the resources to go after a bunch of 13 year olds who googled 'how to DDoS'.

What resources? For all we know this was a grad project for the FBI Academy's "Cybercrime 101" class. It's not like tracing this took top-flight investigators or anything.

-- Steve

My mistake, I agree with you. What I meant was it's a waste of time to even bother with Anonymous. It won't make a difference.

 

[Om Nom Nom]

It's amusing when you think about it. They caught only 40ish out of the hundreds, perhaps thousands of people who carried out the DDoS(es). And by the sounds of things, only the particularly stupid ones at that.

You can't fault them for trying, but really, I'm sure there are more important cases that need attention than this. DDoS attacks aren't much more than an annoyance, even less than that for these large companies who have solutions in place to make attacks like that almost entirely ineffectual.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Shouldn't the FBI be tracking down actual criminals?

They are tracking down actual criminals. Taking part in a DDOS attack is against the law, thus a criminal activity, thus the people who did it are criminals.

This is not difficult people. The members of Anonymous who carried out these attacks are criminals. There is no other way of describing them.

 

[Corsion]

Just gonna say, I called it... I knew that one day Anonymous would bite off more then it could chew and end up in the crosshairs of the U.S. Government! I knew it!


But in all seriousness, I'm actually pretty glad the government is cracking down on anonymous, it's time they learn that they can't whine about anything and get what they want, it's like spanking a spoiled child at this point. I don't really have any pity for anonymous.


Sorry if this sounds cruel, but I have a bit of a vendetta against anonymous and I hate Assange... Who they support... So yeah, I am pretty happy to see the government crack down on them... Don't want to offend anyone, just expressing my opinion.

Just FYI, Anonymous have ALWAYS been in the cross-hairs of the U.S. Government and they ALWAYS bite off more than they can chew.

 

[phelan511]

As off-topic and pointless as it may be, just have to point out:

Scotland Yard

English counterparts

I don't know why I did that. I'm sorry, I'll leave this thread alone now...

Scotland Yard is the UK version of the FBI. So the people that work there are British, Welsh, Scot, and Northern Irish.

 

[CaptainKoala]

It couldn't have been less than 1-2 months ago when there was a thread about another site being attacked. And I said "It doesn't matter, they'll get back traced.". And then 50,000 people blew up in me and said 'HERP DERP DEY ARE UNTR4CABLE ROFL ROFL". Ahhhh I love being right.

 

[CaptainKoala]

It's cool that DDOS attacks won't be as prevalent as they were in the past, but..

Shouldn't the FBI be tracking down actual criminals?

Since when was DDoS not illegal?

These ARE criminals.

They need to teach kids a lesson that you don't step on the government's toes. It isn't just about busting a couple kids, it's reinforcing the notion you aren't safe to do illegal things on the internet and that you can be held responsible for your actions.

That's well worth the resources spent.

Man you must be trolling, people need to fuck with the government or they will just think they can fuck us over and not get fucked back.
The government should be afraid of us not the other way around.

My favorite person said "When people fear the government it is tyranny, but when the government fears the people, that, is liberty."

But in this case it doesn't work, because while the government IS afraid of the people, its because the people are breaking the law.
The government should fear the people in legitimate ways. Mostly through the power of the voters. But there are other ways too.

I couldn't agree with your statement more, but people shouldn't break the law to get their point across.

 

[GLXRBLT]

Fuck the FBI

Like, with a dick.

What they are basically doing is arresting a bunch of awesome dudes who came to the aid of the first proper journalist organisation ever to exist in the century, when their need was grave because of other unwarrented attacks by the USA so they could keep on fooling everybody that they aren't a bunch of bastards.

Seriously, fuck the FBI

 

[CJ1145]

It's cool that DDOS attacks won't be as prevalent as they were in the past, but..

Shouldn't the FBI be tracking down actual criminals?

Why stop child molestation when they could be tracking murderers? Why track murderers when they could be tracking mass murderers? Why track mass murderers when they could be fighting Cthulhu's entrance in to our dimension? I say the full force of all goverment agencies should be tracking down the worst offenders and only those, if the local police can't do it the criminals earned their freedom.

This man has robbed so many convenience stores.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

This man has robbed so many convenience stores.

Shop lifting is a full time job, if I can get away with it. Those snacks are mine!