Fear of America.
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Well if a major world landmark in England had been blown up due to flaws in airport security they'd probaly be a bit paranoid to. On one side I understand where the American authorities are coming from on the other though, well apparently you can't bring anything on the plane but your luggage everything else could be a hidden bomb. If I said the word "bomb" at my local airport which also happens to be Washington DC's international airport I'd be in the "back room" before you could say "terrorist" so I guess what I'm trying to say is just be careful at airports and you'll be OK.
Only if you're Canadian. Or French Canadian, in which case you get a shampagne enema at least.CoziestPigeon said:
There are places in America that are just as bad. You must have only seen the good parts of New Orleans, because before the flood there were some parts of that city that looked like eastern European slums. These are the places you don't want to end up in- Detroit, Camden, parts of Philadelphia, parts of Chicago. New York cleaned its act up, and LA isn't as bad as people say. Just look at it this way: the closer you are to Texas, the more xenophobic it gets.Nerf Ninja said:
danpascooch said:You know, until you attack our citizens. *cough* Japan *cough* Pearl Harbor *cough*Nerf Ninja said:Don't worry too much about "security procedures" friend, nobody really cares that much about security, remember, Americans are lazy
Not sure of the Jets though. I've seen F/A-18's patrolling my area (New Jersey) and up and down the coast. Florida to Massachusetts (My family travels a lot). There is some military facility near my house, hidden deep in the woods. Like 5 minutes away by car to the road enterence. Most people don't know about it. Multiple times, I've seen unmarked trucks being waived in by soldiers in uniforms, with guns. I should explore there some day.Logic 0 said:
OK, now that's a little offensive, I live just a few miles away from Texas (Southwest Louisiana, just over the Sabine River in Vinton) and we are very welcome to foreigners here.blindthrall said:
Well most people here (New England) are reasonable, none paranoid people. I hate the Media since they are fear mongers and never report anything very good and just they just make me want to punch babies, that's right punch babies. I think the security measures are just to satisfy the scared about terror 1 percent of the country.
As a long-time American, I have to say that America is fucking awesome.
Here's the problem: When you're fucking awesome, the onus is on you to show the world that you're fucking awesome. Most Americans, on the other hand, are content to sit on their fat asses, eating Cheetos, watching Big Brother, and saying 'Yup, we're fucking awesome.'
Being the best involves more than simply telling everybody else to fuck off. It involves working, thinking, and innovating. This includes ripping off ideas from other countries. Tragically, many of us Americans seem to think we're above that and won't do certain things to improve our country for no other reason than because it wasn't OUR idea.
It's tragic, really, because if we kicked all these obstructionists out on Congress and all these lapdogs out of the media, we could be the shining star of civilization that we should be. Until then we'll be playing catch-up with Japan's hybrid cars, and the rest of the world's educational and health insurance systems.
Here's the problem: When you're fucking awesome, the onus is on you to show the world that you're fucking awesome. Most Americans, on the other hand, are content to sit on their fat asses, eating Cheetos, watching Big Brother, and saying 'Yup, we're fucking awesome.'
Being the best involves more than simply telling everybody else to fuck off. It involves working, thinking, and innovating. This includes ripping off ideas from other countries. Tragically, many of us Americans seem to think we're above that and won't do certain things to improve our country for no other reason than because it wasn't OUR idea.
It's tragic, really, because if we kicked all these obstructionists out on Congress and all these lapdogs out of the media, we could be the shining star of civilization that we should be. Until then we'll be playing catch-up with Japan's hybrid cars, and the rest of the world's educational and health insurance systems.
Well, I think of America as the once and future king. China will overtake it, then, when China's economy is no longer growing at such a startling pace, there will be people with money, and ideas. Then it too will fragment as ambitious people seek to carve up a little kingdom.
The US is currently strangling itself with anti-terrorism laws that hurt the very nature of the American Economy: structured protectionism coupled with expansionist free market strategies. These draconian terrorism laws are pushing the US away from its traditional allies like Canada by making trade harder, all the while what used to be a strongly decentralized power make up becomes ever more concentrated in the hands of a few people. Until the US realizes that the world is not the scary place they think it is and they move out of the strange mood they are in, I suspect we will continue to see their downfall - and the world will suffer as a consequence. No matter how much the rest of the world envies the US, they have brought a lot of good to a lot of places.
The US is currently strangling itself with anti-terrorism laws that hurt the very nature of the American Economy: structured protectionism coupled with expansionist free market strategies. These draconian terrorism laws are pushing the US away from its traditional allies like Canada by making trade harder, all the while what used to be a strongly decentralized power make up becomes ever more concentrated in the hands of a few people. Until the US realizes that the world is not the scary place they think it is and they move out of the strange mood they are in, I suspect we will continue to see their downfall - and the world will suffer as a consequence. No matter how much the rest of the world envies the US, they have brought a lot of good to a lot of places.
I guess I have a fear of America and their people.
I'm sort of planning a trip over there some time this year, but the airport security measures dont really sit right with me. Like; keeping my fingerprints on file.
I realise that there's the arguement that if I dont do anything wrong, then I have nothing to fear, but no. That doesnt do it for me. It's a foreign power with your personal details. They owe you nothing, and are powerful enough to get away with anything they decide to do with you. ie: David Hicks.
And the people? One word: GUNS.
Guns dont kill people. People kill people...
...Using GUNS!!!
(Though I have met a couple of Yanks from the northern states who seemed pretty normal.)
I reckon the security measures are a bit too excessive, but we Aussies need to do something about ours. We had a bikie brawl, of 8 guys, at Sydney airport last year where one guy was killed with a metal bollard to the head. There was no security around and the cameras didnt even see anything. The guys managed to get away in a taxi!
This is our country's largest airport mind you.
Heathrow has cops with machine guns, we have private security who are completely unarmed... But at least it's better than New Zealand!!!
I'm sort of planning a trip over there some time this year, but the airport security measures dont really sit right with me. Like; keeping my fingerprints on file.
I realise that there's the arguement that if I dont do anything wrong, then I have nothing to fear, but no. That doesnt do it for me. It's a foreign power with your personal details. They owe you nothing, and are powerful enough to get away with anything they decide to do with you. ie: David Hicks.
And the people? One word: GUNS.
Guns dont kill people. People kill people...
...Using GUNS!!!
(Though I have met a couple of Yanks from the northern states who seemed pretty normal.)
I reckon the security measures are a bit too excessive, but we Aussies need to do something about ours. We had a bikie brawl, of 8 guys, at Sydney airport last year where one guy was killed with a metal bollard to the head. There was no security around and the cameras didnt even see anything. The guys managed to get away in a taxi!
This is our country's largest airport mind you.
Heathrow has cops with machine guns, we have private security who are completely unarmed... But at least it's better than New Zealand!!!
A government should fear its people.Macgyvercas said:
All of what you hear has likely been run through the mass media which sometime after JFK's assassination became nigh entirely sensationalistic.
Also I've heard from some that they would be willing to have somewhat less of the freedoms constituted by the founding fathers so that they and their children might be safer. In response I quote Benjamin Franklin.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Being shot by the police is unlikely unless you have a weapon or a mental disorder. (Mostly the weapon thing though) It actually isn't too bad here. You could also convert all your pounds (the money) to US dollars and when the strength of the dollar recovers a bit you get what is basically free money. Assuming that the pound doesn't continue to destroy the dollar. I think we actually like the British right now (Citation needed) so come on over while everything looks good.Andaxay said:
In any case, Simon Cowell and Victoria Beckam don't seem to have a problem with America. Just the show, American Idol, which is just as lame as it's British counterpart. Except for the auditions, those losers are hilarious!
Tell that to the thousands of muslim Americans living in the suburbs of Houston. That's just as crass and biased as me saying "the further you get from the coasts, the less elitist it is." And I live on the east coast.blindthrall said:
