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inpachi

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Naw man we aren't that bad.. We just got a bunch of retards running the country.. Im not afraid of any of those country's out there.. My way of thinking is hey if they nuke us oh well... Guess i just wont have to try to find a job for the next 2 years on the account that i will be dead... And who would nuke Washington state anyway? Not DC the state... Well i guess we could get part of the explosion on California because after all all them foreign country's hate California for some strange reason.. Or they love it.. Japs are fascinated with California and NY.. AND NO I REFUSE TO CALL IT CALI! I grew up in southern California and Only the ghetto bastards call it that and or the people not from southern California..
 

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Brazil discovered a large oil field under the atlantic sea (Brazilian territory) Argentina started explorations since Brazil recommended us to do so, cause apparently there should be more in Argentinean sea terrirory. Suddenly the 4th American Fleet is reactivated and sent to the South Atlantic to "patrol"...

I am not scared but angry at some of the actions of the American Government.
 

dietpeachsnapple

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America retains the potential to do something great in the world, and the potential to do nothing well. I do not believe that we are a threat to the international community.

I think we take comfort in our illusions and our apathy.
 
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I'm scared of them because they have fighter jets constantly patroling the canadian and mexico borders and land mines scatered across the closest beach to cuba.
actually, we keep the jets parked in nice little hangars on standby, ready to intercept any perceived threat. we haven't done round the clock airborne operations since the cold war ended. its just too damn expensive.
you're going to have to explain the mined beach to me though. I never heard of it (and I keep up with stuff like this)
Sorry about the thing with the land mines it turns out was misinformed about that and I apoligize about it.
Not sure of the Jets though. I've seen F/A-18's patrolling my area (New Jersey) and up and down the coast. Florida to Massachusetts (My family travels a lot). There is some military facility near my house, hidden deep in the woods. Like 5 minutes away by car to the road enterence. Most people don't know about it. Multiple times, I've seen unmarked trucks being waived in by soldiers in uniforms, with guns. I should explore there some day.
don't mistake a training exercise for a patrol. It could be a flyover for a race or other public event. Word of advice on any military compound: they can't legally shoot you, but you can get in a world of shit for snooping around where you're nose doesn't belong. Military police take their job seriously, especially in light of the Ft. Hood incident, and the several other attempted military base attacks. My guess is that you're "secret base in the woods" is a Natl. Guard armory or outpost of some sort, and if thats the case, then its not surprising that you would see civilian looking cars going in and out.
I guess so. Does the National Guard uniform identical to the Armys at a glance i.e. coloring? It was a desert uniform. Also, there were never races in my area, so i doubt it was for that. Since it was only 2 planes at a time, It might have been a training exercise.
yes, they wear the exact same uniforms. The only difference would be in the unit patches.
Yeah, it was probably a training exercise. If it happens with any frequency, you probably live somewhere between a naval port, and an inland naval air station.
Hmmm. I wonder if McGuire Air Force Base runs training over my area. They shouldn't be more than 40 minutes away. No there are no nearby Guard units. Nearest is Atlantic City.
 

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Stickman97 said:
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Just look at it this way: the closer you are to Texas, the more xenophobic it gets.
OK, now that's a little offensive, I live just a few miles away from Texas (Southwest Louisiana, just over the Sabine River in Vinton) and we are very welcome to foreigners here.
O rly?

8-Bit_Jack said:
This makes me angry somehow. I think it's because you went to NEW ORLEANS and had a positive impression of the US but think the rest of it is some Nazi police state. New Orleans has ever been a scum-hole, now it's a RUINED scum-hole. *hates almost everyone from nawlens*

Come to Texas. We will cook you assorted meats.
Hating people the next state over definitely equates to open arms for foreigners. Although in his defense, he's probably about as serious as I am.
 

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as portrayed in the media
Well there's your problem!

No, America is nothing like that at the moment. Were still as complacent and oblivious as always. As long as you don't come over form a "terrorist" country then you'll be fine.
 

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Don't worry too much about "security procedures" friend, nobody really cares that much about security, remember, Americans are lazy :)
You know, until you attack our citizens. *cough* Japan *cough* Pearl Harbor *cough*
Centuries upon centuries upon centuries of brutal British imperialism *cough cough*

Maybe we should all just kill ourselves now, because its not just America, the whole world is fucking crazy
 

blindthrall

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Yeah, don't mind us, we'll just be over here in the corner with our paranoia, paying for every natural disaster in the world, providing national security to half the globe with our own cash and soldiers, funding most of the UN and World Bank, giving more to charity than the next twelve nations combined, and producing NORMAN FUCKING BORLAUG. Be very afraid, we might just defend your borders, rebuild your country, and feed your people. I wish to god we were as bad as most of you tards seem to thing we are. Not that there aren't issues, but do you realize exactly how completely screwed the world would be without us? Go overseas, americans, see the world. You'll run back wheezing.
I wish we would pack up all our stuff and withdraw back to our own continent. Muslims only started hating America when we stuck our noses in their business. They'd be more than happy to gouge us for oil, and as long as people keep driving Hummers, we deserve it.
 
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danpascooch said:
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Don't worry too much about "security procedures" friend, nobody really cares that much about security, remember, Americans are lazy :)
You know, until you attack our citizens. *cough* Japan *cough* Pearl Harbor *cough*
Centuries upon centuries upon centuries of brutal British imperialism *cough cough*

Maybe we should all just kill ourselves now, because its not just America, the whole world is fucking crazy
Know that story well. Half my family in India won't stop bitching about the English taking over the country. Yeah, well, if it wasn't for those "goras" then India might have taken another 5 centuries to catch up to the West considering many of India's modern commodities are a direct result of British interference. Of course, logic and proof never works.
 

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I certainly don't fear that America will invade my country. Not until their resources dry up, in any case, and that may not happen until I am grey around the temples. God willing.

The only thing to fear from America is mass ignorance, but they hardly have the market cornered on that.
 

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Halaxis said:
danpascooch said:
Halaxis said:
danpascooch said:
Nerf Ninja said:
Don't worry too much about "security procedures" friend, nobody really cares that much about security, remember, Americans are lazy :)
You know, until you attack our citizens. *cough* Japan *cough* Pearl Harbor *cough*
Centuries upon centuries upon centuries of brutal British imperialism *cough cough*

Maybe we should all just kill ourselves now, because its not just America, the whole world is fucking crazy
Know that story well. Half my family in India won't stop bitching about the English taking over the country. Yeah, well, if it wasn't for those "goras" then India might have taken another 5 centuries to catch up to the West considering many of India's modern commodities are a direct result of British interference. Of course, logic and proof never works.
You're right, you know, how about this, when we think that a country isn't advanced enough, we will just roll the troops in, take the fucking thing over, and then ask them to thank us.

Nice logic there.
 

copperflyingace

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Halaxis said:
copperflyingace said:
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I'm scared of them because they have fighter jets constantly patroling the canadian and mexico borders and land mines scatered across the closest beach to cuba.
actually, we keep the jets parked in nice little hangars on standby, ready to intercept any perceived threat. we haven't done round the clock airborne operations since the cold war ended. its just too damn expensive.
you're going to have to explain the mined beach to me though. I never heard of it (and I keep up with stuff like this)
Sorry about the thing with the land mines it turns out was misinformed about that and I apoligize about it.
Not sure of the Jets though. I've seen F/A-18's patrolling my area (New Jersey) and up and down the coast. Florida to Massachusetts (My family travels a lot). There is some military facility near my house, hidden deep in the woods. Like 5 minutes away by car to the road enterence. Most people don't know about it. Multiple times, I've seen unmarked trucks being waived in by soldiers in uniforms, with guns. I should explore there some day.
don't mistake a training exercise for a patrol. It could be a flyover for a race or other public event. Word of advice on any military compound: they can't legally shoot you, but you can get in a world of shit for snooping around where you're nose doesn't belong. Military police take their job seriously, especially in light of the Ft. Hood incident, and the several other attempted military base attacks. My guess is that you're "secret base in the woods" is a Natl. Guard armory or outpost of some sort, and if thats the case, then its not surprising that you would see civilian looking cars going in and out.
I guess so. Does the National Guard uniform identical to the Armys at a glance i.e. coloring? It was a desert uniform. Also, there were never races in my area, so i doubt it was for that. Since it was only 2 planes at a time, It might have been a training exercise.
yes, they wear the exact same uniforms. The only difference would be in the unit patches.
Yeah, it was probably a training exercise. If it happens with any frequency, you probably live somewhere between a naval port, and an inland naval air station.
Hmmm. I wonder if McGuire Air Force Base runs training over my area. They shouldn't be more than 40 minutes away. No there are no nearby Guard units. Nearest is Atlantic City.
I still wouldn't worry. The military doesn't give damn what you do on the weekends. Thats what the CIA, FBI, and NSA are for (and the IRS for that matter...)The only way the military will care what you do is if you try to hack their networks, break into a base, or do anything to directly harm them.
 

GrinningManiac

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Not at all.

They won't even be the superior country in the world soon anyway.

China is taking over.
China's already taken over

They brought off a lot of America's debt

OT: America has ALWAYS been a frightened beast. Look at McCarthyism and the Red Terror, and the fear of coloured insubordination before that

That's a generalisation, though

In recent times, however, I have to facepalm at the American security initiatives. The last thing you need when you're looking through a busy airports for possible terrorists is more and more information. How am I supposed to find "spent three years in Algieria with extremist rebels in the desert" amongst a fellow's info when it tells me his favourite colour and the brand of his toothbrush?
 
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danpascooch said:
Halaxis said:
danpascooch said:
Halaxis said:
danpascooch said:
Nerf Ninja said:
Don't worry too much about "security procedures" friend, nobody really cares that much about security, remember, Americans are lazy :)
You know, until you attack our citizens. *cough* Japan *cough* Pearl Harbor *cough*
Centuries upon centuries upon centuries of brutal British imperialism *cough cough*

Maybe we should all just kill ourselves now, because its not just America, the whole world is fucking crazy
Know that story well. Half my family in India won't stop bitching about the English taking over the country. Yeah, well, if it wasn't for those "goras" then India might have taken another 5 centuries to catch up to the West considering many of India's modern commodities are a direct result of British interference. Of course, logic and proof never works.
You're right, you know, how about this, when we think that a country isn't advanced enough, we will just roll the troops in, take the fucking thing over, and then ask them to thank us.

Nice logic there.
The British had little resistance taking over. One, they destroyed the cultural backbone of India. Two, they set the religions against each other. Three, they manipulated the prices into fighting each other. By the time the official "take over" began, the sub-continent was already so weak, that it took no effort from the Brits.

Also, remember, India wasn't a country back then, it was a REGION, ruled by warring princes. India would still be that today if the Britishers hadn't come in.

Third. Thinking was different back then. The Britishers wanted to spread technology, wealth, and culture to the places they called colonies. They wanted to rise people out of backward ways. They screwed up. But the intention was a good one.

Fourth. What you described " You're right, you know, how about this, when we think that a country isn't advanced enough, we will just roll the troops in, take the fucking thing over, and then ask them to thank us." No one has done this in decades. There haven't been countries with true imperialistic goals since WW2.

Fifth. If you were talking about Iraq or Afghanistan, then you have the wrong information. Britain was looking for colonies to increase its wealth and empire.

The U.S. went into Iraq

1.) Saddam was a major supporter of many Anti-American militants before the war
2.) Iraq was a base of operations for Al-Qaeda. Not much as Afghanistan, but still there
3.) Saddam still harbored anti-America feelings after the Gulf Wars. We would have left our backs open if he was still in power. A part of Hitlers down fall was because he fought a war on 2 fronts. Cut his army's power.
4.) It was rumored that he had WMD'. We proved this wrong, yes. But remember, If we were in Afghanistan, and he launched a Chemical or Nuclear weapon, our soldiers were screwed. it was a case of "Better Safe Than Sorry."

The U.S. went into Afghanistan because

1.)Al-Quida HQ was stationed there.
2.)Bin Ladin was there.
3.)The poppie fields were the main source of Al-Qaeda's income
4.)Large number of militants were stationed there

In neither case, did the US plan to establish an colony or mine for precious material. Never have we asked them to thank us.

You argument is now worthless.
Give examples next time
 

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The U.S. went into Iraq

1.) Saddam was a major supporter of many Anti-American militants before the war
2.) Iraq was a base of operations for Al-Qaeda. Not much as Afghanistan, but still there
3.) Saddam still harbored anti-America feelings after the Gulf Wars. We would have left our backs open if he was still in power. A part of Hitlers down fall was because he fought a war on 2 fronts. Cut his army's power.
4.) It was rumored that he had WMD'. We proved this wrong, yes. But remember, If we were in Afghanistan, and he launched a Chemical or Nuclear weapon, our soldiers were screwed. it was a case of "Better Safe Than Sorry."
I'm quite astounded anybody still believes this.

1. Same could be said of many governments. Wouldn't you support Anti-American militants if American was about to invade you?
2. Saddam, head of a secular nationalistic state hated al-Qaeda, a fundamentalist terrorist organization. Osama offered to defend the Saudis from Saddam in the first Gulf War, until we stepped in. It's one of the real reasons he hates America. Maybe you're saying that al-Qaeda was in Iraq despite Saddam's efforts, but wouldn't it make more sense to leave a strong, nationalistic, if corrupt ruler in charge than try to prop up a weak government that would be immediately infiltrated by al-Qaeda? One of the reasons Saddam was so harsh was because he wanted to make damn sure there weren't any terrorists in Iraq. There are more al-Qaeda after the invasion than there ever were before.
3.I may not be reading that right, but are you suggesting that we would be leaving a flank open to Iraq when we invaded Afghanistan? Because they don't share a border. Saddam would have had to send troops through Iran, the country he fought a horrific war with during the 80s. And by invading Iraq, we did cut our troop power in half. Invading Iraq was repeating Hitler's mistake. If we had concentrated all the troops in Afghanistan, we probably would have pacified the country by now and left.
4.Again, geography. Those are some pretty powerful WMDs if he can fire them clear across Iran. Which would probably provoke a war with Iran anyway. So based on a hunch that our soldiers were in danger from a threat we weren't sure even existed, we sent our soldiers into certain danger in a hostile country? Yeah.

Something to remember; Most Arabs hate other Arabs more than the US. At least they did before we invaded Iraq. Afghanistan was a just war. Iraq, not in the slightest. It was a farce orchestrated by war criminals, and while it may not be as disastrous, it's less justifiable than Vietnam.
 

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the "cornered animal" analogy is nice OP, they (America/Americans) are a bunch of children thrown into the world with a nuclear stockpile.
You're right, none of us are capable of intelligent thought whatsoever. In fact the only proper sentance I'm able to piece together is the one I just previously typed and this one explaining it.
well i am glad your inferior intellectual equipment has allowed you to do that, also learn to spell.

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America the only country unable to translate English into English without making mistakes.
 

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America as a country is like a fat angry baby with a gun, frightening, irrational and likely to poop unless it gets what it wants.
 
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blindthrall said:
Halaxis said:
The U.S. went into Iraq

1.) Saddam was a major supporter of many Anti-American militants before the war
2.) Iraq was a base of operations for Al-Qaeda. Not much as Afghanistan, but still there
3.) Saddam still harbored anti-America feelings after the Gulf Wars. We would have left our backs open if he was still in power. A part of Hitlers down fall was because he fought a war on 2 fronts. Cut his army's power.
4.) It was rumored that he had WMD'. We proved this wrong, yes. But remember, If we were in Afghanistan, and he launched a Chemical or Nuclear weapon, our soldiers were screwed. it was a case of "Better Safe Than Sorry."
I'm quite astounded anybody still believes this.

1. Same could be said of many governments. Wouldn't you support Anti-American militants if American was about to invade you?
2. Saddam, head of a secular nationalistic state hated al-Qaeda, a fundamentalist terrorist organization. Osama offered to defend the Saudis from Saddam in the first Gulf War, until we stepped in. It's one of the real reasons he hates America. Maybe you're saying that al-Qaeda was in Iraq despite Saddam's efforts, but wouldn't it make more sense to leave a strong, nationalistic, if corrupt ruler in charge than try to prop up a weak government that would be immediately infiltrated by al-Qaeda? One of the reasons Saddam was so harsh was because he wanted to make damn sure there weren't any terrorists in Iraq. There are more al-Qaeda after the invasion than there ever were before.
3.I may not be reading that right, but are you suggesting that we would be leaving a flank open to Iraq when we invaded Afghanistan? Because they don't share a border. Saddam would have had to send troops through Iran, the country he fought a horrific war with during the 80s. And by invading Iraq, we did cut our troop power in half. Invading Iraq was repeating Hitler's mistake. If we had concentrated all the troops in Afghanistan, we probably would have pacified the country by now and left.
4.Again, geography. Those are some pretty powerful WMDs if he can fire them clear across Iran. Which would probably provoke a war with Iran anyway. So based on a hunch that our soldiers were in danger from a threat we weren't sure even existed, we sent our soldiers into certain danger in a hostile country? Yeah.

Something to remember; Most Arabs hate other Arabs more than the US. At least they did before we invaded Iraq. Afghanistan was a just war. Iraq, not in the slightest. It was a farce orchestrated by war criminals, and while it may not be as disastrous, it's less justifiable than Vietnam.
Fuck, sorry, Confused Iran, and Iraq in my head while I was typing this. You did make some good points. Fact remains. US wasn't trying to build a colony in Iraq or Afghanistan.
 

blindthrall

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Fuck, sorry, Confused Iran, and Iraq in my head while I was typing this. You did make some good points. Fact remains. US wasn't trying to build a colony in Iraq or Afghanistan.
I thought you were a neocon for a second. As far as colonies go, I think that there may have been some corporate colonies like Haliburton, but they've probably realized it's not worth the trouble and will just work through Iraqi frontmen.